SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
July 29, 2003 Hearing
Room B
1:30 PM Tapes
104 - 105
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Roger Beyer, Co-chair,
Presiding
Sen. Kate Brown,
Co-chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson,
Vice-chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick,
Vice-chair
Sen. Bev Clarno
Sen. Tony Corcoran
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Stembridge, Committee
Administrator
Jeana Harrington, Committee
Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HB
2614A – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 935 – Public
Hearing
SB 911A – Work
Session
SB 920 – Work Session
HB 3646 – Public
Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 104, A |
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003 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Calls meeting to order at 1:45 PM. Opens public
hearing on HB 2614A. |
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HB
2614A – PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2614A, which requires
City of Woodburn to include specified land within urban growth boundary (UGB)
for industrial uses. Notes -A9 amendments replace the bill (EXHIBIT A). Informs there was no revenue
and minimal fiscal impact on the related bill, HB 2689 (2003). |
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017 |
Sen. Rick Metsger |
Senate District 26. Overviews –A9 amendments.
Provides history behind the reincarnation of HB 2689 (2003). Explains the new
philosophy behind HB 2614A with the –A9 amendments. Informs of a workgroup on
the measure and its participants. Lists the limitations of the bill. Notes
the sunset on the bill is two years. Points out the emergency clause, and
informs the Governor’s office has requested it be removed. Offers the
Governor supports the measure. Understands the potential desire of the
committee to use the bill as a vehicle for others. Notes an error in an
enrolled bill that the amendment will fix. |
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130 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Remarks. |
|
135 |
Co-chair Beyer |
States intentions for the agenda. |
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147 |
Art Schlack |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Testifies in
support of HB 2614A. Urges adding to the bill with the –A9 amendments.
Recognizes the benefits of the provision of the bill. Concurs with the
removal of the emergency clause in order to expedite the bill. |
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209 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks what provoked the bill. |
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219 |
Schlack |
Unaware of a company in particular that requested.
Speaks on Land Conservation and Development Commission (LCDC) involvement. |
|
229 |
Sen. Burdick |
Utilizes examples of “big box stores:” and requests
if the bill makes it easier for them to move in. |
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237 |
Schlack |
Informs the retail, commercial and residential
development cannot be authorized by the bill. |
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247 |
Randy Franke |
Chair, LCDC. Testifies in support of HB 2614A.
Informs of the work on LCDC on the measure. Notes the bill is narrower in
focus than the bill supported by LCDC. |
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279 |
Harlan Levy |
Attorney, Oregon Association of Realtors (OAR).
Testifies in support of HB 2614A with the –A9 amendments (EXHIBIT B). Emphasizes the land can only be zoned for industrial
use by the bill. Believes the bill provides responsible land-use reform. |
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321 |
Carrie MacLaren |
1,000 Friends of Oregon. Testifies in opposition to
HB 2614A (EXHIBIT C). Believes the
bill undermines a fundamental principal in Oregon’s land-use laws as it
exempts lands from Statewide Urbanization Goal 14. Notes 1,000 Friends did
support HB 2691, the “mill bill” and lists reasons for support. |
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389 |
Sen. Brown |
Requests Ms. MacLaren differentiate SB 467 and HB
2614A. |
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391 |
MacLaren |
Speaks on the location and industrialization of UGB.
Answers that 1,000 Friends supports the principle that large industrial
facilities be located within the UGB. |
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TAPE 105,
A |
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001 |
Doug Riggs |
Central Oregon Cities Organization (COCO). Testifies
on HB 2614A. Explains initial concerns with the measure and informs of the
ways the amendments solved them. |
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021 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Remarks. |
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028 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB
2614A. |
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HB
2614A – WORK SESSION |
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029 |
Sen. Burdick |
Supposes a county would benefit from urban
development whether located inside or outside a UGB. |
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031 |
Riggs |
Recognizes the opportunity for development to be
beneficial either way. |
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027 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Notes –A10 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
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042 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Understands the HB 2614A–A10
amendments include SB 605 (2003). Explains the fiscal impact of SB 605 (2003)
and its effects on the counties. |
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063 |
Sen. Brown |
Notes the amendments are brought forward by Sen.
Devlin. |
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063 |
Sen. Brown
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MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2614A-A10 amendments
dated 7/29/03. |
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064 |
Sen. Burdick |
Understands the –A10 amendments address an
oversight. Speaks on siting in forest land. |
|
070 |
Judith Callens |
Responds regarding statute. |
|
078 |
Co-chair Beyer |
States he will be a “no” vote. |
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080 |
Sen. Clarno |
Adds she will vote “no.” |
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082 |
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VOTE:
3-3 AYE: 3 - Burdick, Corcoran, Brown NAY: 3 - Atkinson, Clarno, Beyer |
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Co-chair Beyer |
The motion FAILS. |
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085 |
Sen. Brown |
MOTION:
Moves to ADOPT HB 2614A-A9 amendments dated 7/28/03. |
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088 |
Sen.
Metsger |
Reminds the committee of
the emergency clause. |
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090 |
Sen. Brown |
Withdraws motion. |
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092 |
Sen. Brown |
MOTION:
Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of further amending the -A9
amendments dated 7/28/03. |
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093 |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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Co-chair Beyer |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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095 |
Sen. Brown |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2614A-A9 amendments
dated 7/28/03 and that the measure be FURTHER AMENDED on page 5, line 15, by
deleting "section five, the emergency clause". |
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097 |
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VOTE:
6-0 |
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Co-chair Beyer |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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099 |
Sen.
Atkinson |
MOTION: Moves HB 2614A to the floor with a DO PASS
AS AMENDED recommendation. |
|
101 |
Sen. Burdick |
States she will be a “no” vote. |
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103 |
Sen. Brown |
Adds she will vote “no,” but states she is open to
further discussion. |
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105 |
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VOTE:
4-2 AYE: 4 - Atkinson, Clarno, Corcoran, Beyer NAY: 2 - Burdick, Brown |
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Co-chair Beyer |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on
the floor. |
|
129 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Closes work session on HB 2614A. Opens public
hearing on SB 935. |
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SB 935
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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131 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes SB 935, which
makes persons working from home assembling photon light products nonsubject
workers for purposes of workers’ compensation insurance. |
|
139 |
Rep. Alan Brown |
House District 10. Supports SB 935. Speaks on the
situation of Laughing Rabbit, Incorporated (LRI). Provides accounts of
individuals working for LRI in the town of Gladsley. Lists the types of
workers who are not covered by workers’ compensation insurance. Understands
there are two amendments, an emergency clause and a sunset. States he
supports the amendments. |
|
165 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Notes the -1 amendments provided by Sen. Brown (EXHIBIT E) |
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170 |
Jim Welsh |
Oregon State Grange (OSG). Testifies in support of
SB 935. Overviews the measure history. Recognizes that the Governor will not
support the measure, but notes the Governor does support an interim workgroup
on the issue. Speaks on employees of LRI. |
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230 |
David Allen |
Owner, LRI. Testifies in support of SB 935 (EXHIBIT F). Provides personal
account of his business to illustrate the problem encountered concerning
workers’ compensation. Notes he never requested the bill. Believes citizens
should have the ability to be free-agents in their own homes. Voices
disappointment with the workers’ compensation claims. |
|
288 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Recollects a statement Mr. Allen made to the Eugene
Register-Guard. |
|
290 |
Allen |
Asserts he never stated that. Notes he has a factory
in China. |
|
303 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Confirms Mr. Allen never made any of the comments. |
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305 |
Allen |
States he also read the article and affirms he did
not. Speaks on business in Oregon and in China. |
|
317 |
Welsh |
Adds it was not their intention to “water down” statute.
Voices hope the committee will recognize the “cottage industry.” Speaks
further on cottage industries. |
|
350 |
Margaret Hallock |
Governor’s Advisor for Labor and Revenue. Testifies
in opposition to SB 935. Expresses concerns of the Governor on the bill and
the broader issue of independent contractor status. Explains there is harsh
opposition to any changes to the definition of independent contractor.
Informs of the plans to discuss the issues involved during the interim. Voices
concern that Management Labor Advisory Committee (M-LAC) and the Workers’ Compensation
Board does not agree with the exemption created by the bill. |
|
425 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Closes public hearing on SB 935. Opens work session
on SB 911A. |
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SB 911A
– WORK SESSION |
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|
430 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Notes the bill was
re-referred to committee. Explains changes made by the –A5 amendments to SB
911A (EXHIBIT G). |
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TAPE 104,
B |
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008 |
Sen. Clarno |
Indicates the requests for additional changes to the
amendments. |
|
010 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose
of further amending the –A5 amendments to SB 911A dated 7/28/03. |
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013 |
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VOTE:
4-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Brown, Burdick |
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Co-chair Beyer |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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010 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves to AMEND the SB 911-A5 amendments dated 7/28/03 on page
6, line 18, by deleting "may" and inserting "shall"; on
page 8, line 14, by deleting "five calendar years" and inserting
"every thirty months"; on page 8, line 16, by deleting “five
calendar years” and inserting “every thirty months”; and on page 8, line 17,
by deleting “may” and inserting “shall”. |
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016 |
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VOTE:
4-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Brown, Burdick |
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Co-chair Beyer |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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035 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 911A-A5 amendments dated
7/28/03 as further amended. |
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037 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Informs that it was his idea and intention to allow
the bill to be statewide. Allows that he supports it in order for the bill to
continue. |
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039 |
Sen. Clarno |
Recognizes the work of Harrison Conley of
Legislative Counsel on the bill and thanks her colleagues for their support. |
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041 |
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VOTE:
4-0 EXCUSED: 2 - Brown, Burdick |
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Co-chair Beyer |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. |
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043 |
Sen.
Clarno |
MOTION: Moves SB
911A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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045 |
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VOTE:
4-0 EXCUSED: 2 - Brown, Burdick |
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Co-chair Beyer |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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047 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Closes work session on SB 911A. Opens work session
on SB 920. |
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SB 920
– WORK SESSION |
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050 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Highlights changes made
with the hand engrossed version of SB 920 (EXHIBIT H). Overviews the -5 amendments (EXHIBIT I). |
|
070 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks if the amendments are a continuation of the
workgroups amendments. |
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075 |
Callens |
Affirms. |
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080 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Understands there is a -4 amendment from Sen. Brown (EXHIBIT J). |
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085 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Closes work session on SB 920. Opens public hearing
on HB 3346. |
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HB 3646
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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088 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 3646, which eliminates
requirement that race days be allocated based on 1992 and 1993 calendar year
allocations. Notes the -1 amendments from Sen. Burdick (EXHIBIT K) |
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095 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Informs of rules for testimony. |
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101 |
Larry Campbell |
Multnomah Greyhound Park; Portland Meadows. Testifies
in support of HB 3646. Explains the objective of the proponents. |
|
125 |
Dave Nelson |
Portland Meadows, Multnomah Greyhound Park.
Testifies in support of HB 3646. Echoes Mr. Campbell’s concerns. Opposes -1
amendments as they are more restrictive than current statute. Lists concerns
with the language of the -1 amendments. |
|
158 |
John McCulley |
Oregon Fairs Association. Testifies in support of HB
3646. |
|
173 |
Sen. Burdick |
States the -1 amendments are not intended to be more
restrictive. Explains the intent. Asks if the proponents would accept an
amendment that would keep greyhound racing at “the status quo” and confine
liberalization to horse racing. |
|
183 |
Nelson |
Responds the preference is to leave the decision to
the Oregon Racing Commission to allow for flexibility. |
|
192 |
Sen. Burdick |
Recalls his statement about existing flexibility. States
she does not understand the concerns with the greyhound portion. |
|
198 |
Nelson |
Provides example to illustrate the flexibility that
would be lost. Explains preferences of Portland Greyhound Park. |
|
220 |
Sen. Burdick |
Responds she does not understand the problem. |
|
225 |
Nelson |
Reiterates the -1 amendments to not allow for
flexibility. |
|
231 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks why the bill cannot only include horses. |
|
237 |
Nelson |
Answers the bill began the way suggested in the
House. Explains how the language was crafted. |
|
256 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Remarks. |
|
264 |
Sen. Burdick |
Explains section two of the -1 amendments is a
technical change. |
|
272 |
Connie Theil |
Multnomah County. Testifies in opposition to HB
3646. Provides three letters (EXHIBIT L).
Provides statistics on dog racing. Thinks legislative focus should be on
the budget. Advises dogs be removed from the -1 amendments. |
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333 |
Kyle Ash |
Citizen. Testifies in opposition to HB 3646. |
|
352 |
Lisa Kendall |
Citizen. Testifies in opposition to HB 3646.
Provides opinion on greyhound racing. |
|
395 |
Celeste Crimi |
Washington County. Testifies in opposition to HB
3646. Speaks on the misuse and overpopulation of animals in racing. |
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TAPE 105,
B |
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020 |
Dianne Kippes |
Clackamas County. Testifies in opposition to HB
3646. Provides statistics on dog injuries in racing and misuse of the
animals. |
|
040 |
Karen Ulbright |
Citizen. Testifies in opposition to HB 3646. Voices
discontent with the realities of the mistreatment of animals and with
gambling. |
|
057 |
Ann Glatt |
Owner, adopted greyhound. Testifies in opposition to
HB 3646. Explains reasons she adopted her greyhound. Provides personal
account of greyhounds in Arizona. Informs the committee of the findings of
her family on the treatment of greyhounds. Notes greyhounds predisposition to
cancer and that the family greyhound has cancer. Believes the dogs are
exploited. |
|
118 |
Rebecca Glatt |
Daughter, Ann Glatt. Informs the committee of her
research on greyhounds. |
|
131 |
Benjamin Glatt |
Son, Ann Glatt. Voices concern for the treatment of
the dogs during their lives. |
|
140 |
A. Glatt |
States there is no other breed of dog used for
entertainment, “exploitation, and gambling.” |
|
150 |
Steve Walters |
Chair, Oregon Racing Commission (ORC). Testifies on
HB 3646. Respects the views of the opponents. Voices concern the bill has
become a referendum as to the regulation of greyhound racing in Oregon.
Informs the committee of the positive aspects of greyhound racing. Notes
greyhound racing is a year-round industry already and that HB 3646 would
allow for flexibility. Believes the testimony has fallen away from the bill.
Responds to Sen. Burdick’s question on maintaining “status quo” with regard
to greyhounds by the -1 amendments. Explains race days vary dramatically. Anticipates
the flexibility the bill would provide would be rescinded with adoption of
the -1 amendments. Expresses concern for the welfare of the animals involved.
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|
230 |
Sen. Burdick |
Voices discontent greyhounds must be included in the
measure. |
|
247 |
Walters |
Expresses difficulty in finding “sidebars” on the
issue of greyhounds. States he is unsure of a method that would not limit the
ORC. Suggestions. |
|
273 |
Sen. Burdick |
Notes she has never attended a greyhound race. Asks
what the longest season has been. |
|
280 |
Walters |
Recalls it was seven months in 1991. |
|
285 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks if there is a “no kill” rule in Oregon greyhound
racing. |
|
287 |
Walters |
Affirms. |
|
295 |
Sen. Burdick |
Inquires that it applies to the farms that raise the
dogs as well. |
|
300 |
Walters |
Affirms. Informs the greyhound farms are licensed
and inspected. Thinks the confusion is due to possible mistreatment in other
states. States that, to his knowledge, none of the accounts of maltreatment
in the opposing testimony have occurred in Oregon. Offers that the greyhounds
are tracked. |
|
312 |
Sen. Burdick |
Restates question. Asks how the greyhounds born who
cannot perform to the high standards are treated. |
|
319 |
Walters |
Reaffirms the greyhounds are not killed, and adds
that they are adopted. Reiterates it is illegal to kill the dogs. |
|
324 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks how long the shortest race season lasted. |
|
330 |
Walters |
Answers to his knowledge, three months. Adds the
average season is between five and six months. |
|
335 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Clarifies that is the normal range. |
|
340 |
Walters |
Affirms. |
|
346 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks how many races there are in a meet day. |
|
349 |
Walters |
Answers eleven to twelve, with eight dogs in a race. |
|
352 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks if the dogs are used every day. |
|
356 |
Walters |
Answers they are used two to three times a week. |
|
359 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Estimates there are 200 dogs. Asks from what ages
they are run. |
|
365 |
Walters |
Answers the dogs begin around eighteen months, reach
their prime around two to three years, and that four to five years is
considered an older racing dog. |
|
369 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks how many greyhound venues there are in the country. |
|
371 |
Walters |
Answers forty-seven. |
|
374 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks how many states have adoption programs. |
|
376 |
Walters |
States he is unsure, but believes that most states
do. |
|
378 |
Sen. Corcoran |
Asks how many greyhounds are adopted. |
|
379 |
Walters |
Answers around 300. Offers that greyhounds are
shipped from out-of-state to take part in Oregon’s adoption program. |
|
390 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB
3646. |
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HB 3646
– WORK SESSION |
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|
392 |
Sen.
Burdick |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3646-1 amendments dated
7/25/03. |
|
394 |
Sen. Clarno |
States she will vote “no.” |
|
395 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Adds he will be a “no” vote. |
|
400 |
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VOTE:
2-3-1 AYE: 2 - Burdick, Corcoran NAY: 3 - Atkinson, Beyer, Clarno EXCUSED: 1 - Brown |
|
410 |
Co-chair Beyer |
The motion FAILS. |
|
415 |
Co-chair Beyer |
Closes work session on HB 3646. Adjourns meeting at 3:36
PM. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 2614A, -A9 amendments (7/28/03), 5 pp.
B
– HB 2614A, written testimony, Harlan Levy, 2 pp.
C
– HB 2614A, written testimony, Carrie MacLaren, 1p
D
– HB 2614A, -A10 amendments (7/29/03), Staff, 4 pp.
E
– SB 935, -1 amendments (7/23/03), Staff, 7 pp.
F
– SB 935, written testimony, David Allen, 1 p
G
– SB 911A, -A5 amendments (7/28/03), Staff, 8 pp.
H
– SB 920, hand engrossed with -5 amendments, Staff, 10 pp.
I
– SB 920, -5 amendments (7/29/03), Staff, 2 pp.
J
– SB 920, -4 amendments (7/29/03), Staff, 2 pp.
K
– HB 3646, -1 amendments (7/25/03), Staff, 2 pp.
L
– HB 3646, letters, Connie Theil, 4 pp.