SENATE COMMITTEE ON RULES
August 13, 2003 Hearing
Room B
2:30 pm Tapes
116 - 117
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Kate Brown, Co-chair, Presiding
Sen. Roger Beyer, Co-chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson,
Vice-chair
Sen. Tony Corcoran
Sen. Bill Fisher
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Ginny Burdick, Vice-chair
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Stembridge, Committee
Administrator
Jeana Harrington, Committee
Assistant
MEASURES HEARD: HB
3654 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 928 – Public
Hearing
These minutes are in
compliance with Senate and House Rules.
Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact
words. For complete contents,
please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 116,
A |
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003 |
Co-chair Brown |
Calls meeting to order at 2:36 PM. Opens public hearing
on HB 3654. |
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HB 3654
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 3654, which enacts
provisions of federal law relating to health insurance coverage for
mastectomy-related services. |
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020 |
Sen. Vicki Walker |
Senate District 7. Testifies in support of HB 3654.
Provides and explains the statutory text of the Women’s Health and Cancer
Rights Act (EXHIBIT A). Explains
the bill. Notes no opposition to the bill and recalls passage in the House. |
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040 |
Sen. Fisher |
Remarks. |
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046 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on HB
3654. |
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HB 3654
– WORK SESSION |
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047 |
Sen. Beyer
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MOTION: Moves HB 3654 to the floor with a DO PASS
recommendation. |
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048 |
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VOTE:
4-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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Co-chair Brown |
Hearing no objection, declares the
motion CARRIED. SEN. WALKER will lead discussion on
the floor. |
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052 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes work session on HB 3654. Opens public hearing
on SB 928. |
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SB 928
– PUBLIC HEARING |
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054 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes SB 928, which establishes
process for development of recreation management plan for recreational use of
waterway. Notes the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT
B) from the bill, information on liability limitations (EXHIBIT C) and on the current law
restored by the -1 amendment (EXHIBIT
D) and letters submitted on the issue
(EXHIBIT E). Speaks on the letter from Mr. Carrier (EXHIBIT E, page one). Differentiates
the -1 amendments from the bill. Lists the requirements of the -1 amendments
and the bill. |
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121 |
Sen. Ted Ferrioli |
Senate District 30. Testifies in support of SB 928. Explains
the -1 amendments are a replacement to the bill. Advises the bill is not
about navigability, but about the development of a recreation management
plan. Stresses the bill is a product of a workgroup of land owners and
recreation users. Speaks on section two regarding hunting. Informs of the
advisory committee created by the bill. Highlights a fund the bill will
create to pay for costs associated with the bill, but adds that the Oregon Department
of Fish and Wildlife will use its own funding. Believes opposition will
always exist. Notes two-to-one support from a mail survey of those living on
the John Day River (EXHIBIT F),
and adds he will return with the conclusion of the survey. |
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242 |
Inga Deckert |
Oregon State Treasury. Provides background on the
workgroup. Explains the Treasurer’s interest in the issue. Notes the -1
amendments are a compromise created by the workgroup. Speaks on the
determination of the navigability on the John Day River. Explains the
navigability study will automatically commence at the end of session if the
Governor does not sign the bill. |
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325 |
Jesse Cornett |
Land Board Assistant, Office of the Secretary of
State. Testifies in support of SB 928. |
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335 |
Jim Myron |
National Resources Policy Analyst, Office of the
Governor. Testifies in support of SB 928. Provides list of principles laid out
by the Governor at the June 2003 State Land Board meeting (EXHIBIT G). |
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353 |
Gary Benson |
Northwest Steelheaders. Testifies in support of SB
928. Notes he has been a member of the workgroup for the past year. Explains
the issue is of clarity. Voices sympathy for land owners. Speaks on
alternatives. States the bill as amended only serves the John Day River, and
does not solve all problems. Thinks the workgroup could create a statewide
solution to navigability. |
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TAPE 117,
A |
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010 |
Jean Underhill-Wilkeson |
Oregon Farm Bureau (OFB). Testifies in support to SB
928. Accounts for the situation of disagreement regarding land ownership.
Provides opinions of the consensus of the workgroup. Speaks on the “ten feet
proposal.” Speaks on the Governor’s approach on the measure. States she feels
efforts were undermined by the Governor’s Office. Explains the majority of
the landowners’ support for the bill.
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065 |
Phil Donovan |
Association of Northwest Steelheaders. Testifies in
support of SB 928. States they wish to avoid a navigability study. Addresses
the opposing viewpoints to the bill. States the goal is for access to public
rivers. |
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097 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Refers to correspondence by William Butler. Asks if Mr.
Butler is a steelheader. |
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100 |
Benson |
Responds no. |
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102 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Continues. Informs of arguments of Mr. Butler. Clarifies
the steelheaders’ stance on the issue. |
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105 |
Donovan |
Responds that under the fed admissions act it was up
to the state to determine which. States there is nothing to prevent Oregon
from pursuing other river navigability studies. Voices hope the taskforce
will find a statewide solution. |
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139 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Inquires if the public trust doctrine is part of the
federal standard described. |
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142 |
Donovan |
Believes so. |
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143 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Asks if the steelheaders as an association are opposed
to compensation of landowners, requests a policy statement. |
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145 |
Benson |
Informs the steelheaders supported a bill that would
suspend taxation to the center of the river, although it did not address the
issue of back taxes. Comments further on the high water mark. |
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163 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Requests the parties outline the Montana Law. |
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175 |
Donovan |
Answers that in the mid-eighties Montana considered
a similar issue of navigability. Explains how Montana chose to classify
waterways. |
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203 |
Harlan Levy |
Oregon Association of Realtors (OAR); member of
workgroup. States OAR would support SB 928 as introduced, but not with the -1
amendments due to the ten foot mark. Provides examples of due process rights
the owners would have. Informs of navigability regulations. |
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243 |
Al Elkins |
Oregon Hunters Association; member of workgroup.
Supports SB 928 as introduced, without the -1 amendments due to hunting
provisions. Voices concern for hunting along the John Day River. Adds OHA
consents to the provision. |
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277 |
Glen Stonebrink |
Oregon Cattlemen. Testifies in opposition to SB 928.
Explains they have not received a consensus of the landowners on the bill.
Informs of town hall meetings held. Lists concerns with the -1 amendments to
SB 928. Provides opinion on the
amendments. |
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353 |
Elkins |
Informs of the decisions of the workgroup and the
concessions made to those at town hall and to the community. |
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380 |
Callens |
Refers to page three, section five, line 32 of the original
bill. Assures land owners property damage are eligible for compensation and
the monies would be applied to the Oregon Department of Recreation. |
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TAPE 116,
B |
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002 |
Stonebrink |
Adds that throughout discussions on compensation,
there was no use fee discussed. |
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018 |
Lawrence Edwards |
Marion County. Testifies in opposition to SB 928 (EXHIBIT H). Cites examples of court
decisions on navigability. Asks where the attorneys were when the legislation
was created. Urges further consideration of the measure. Provides opinion on
the measure. Provides history on navigable waters in Oregon. Continues
listing court decisions regarding navigable waters. Questions the merit of
removing the John Day River from the study. Understands SB 928 is the fourth
attempt of Sen. Ted Ferrioli to prevent use of the John Day River. Provides
statistics of use of the John Day River. Urges the navigability study
continue. |
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165 |
Art Israelson |
River Access Director, Northwest Steelheaders.
Testifies in support of SB 928. Accounts for past decisions on navigability. Questions
provision regarding back taxes. Explains the Governor was the Attorney
General at the time of a past court decision on navigability. |
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214 |
Scott Ashcom |
Oregon Agricultural Alliance. Testifies in support
of SB 928 with the -1 amendments. Notes he was present in the 1981 and 1983
legislative sessions when the issue was discussed by the land board.
Expresses the workgroup created a compromise. |
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259 |
Brad Harper |
Executive Director, Water for Life. Testifies in
opposition to SB 928 (EXHIBIT I). Explains
concerns with the bill including dedicated funding. Believes the -1
amendments are a further departure from the compromise. Speaks on the issue of
“takings.” |
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306 |
Co-chair Brown |
Asks if Water for Life supports the public trust
doctrine. |
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308 |
Harper |
Believes in the navigability designation that already
exists under state law. Asserts that
the existing law is superior to the measure being considered. |
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323 |
Michael Dundy |
D.R. Johnson Companies. Testifies in opposition to
SB 928 (EXHIBIT J) due to access
limitations and hunting due to the uncertainty of a high water line. Informs
of the land owned by the company. Believes the law is about navigability. Aggress
with Sen. Ferrioli’s comments that the disagreement will continue. Thinks
property owners are at a loss in the issue and agrees that the state is not
effectively dealing with the cost issue. Details disagreement with testimony
from the Governor and the steelheaders. Believes the issue is a federal one. |
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430 |
Co-chair Brown |
Closes public hearing on SB 928. Adjourns meeting at
3:59 PM. |
EXHIBIT
SUMMARY
A
– HB 3654, statutory text, Sen. Vicki Walker, 3 pp.
B
– SB 928, -1 amendments, Staff, 8 pp.
C
– SB 928, liability limitations, Staff, 3 pp.
D
– SB 928, statutory text, Staff, 1 p
E
– SB 928, letters, Staff, 12 pp.
F
– SB 928, survey, Sen. Ted Ferrioli, 10 pp.
G
– SB 928, Governor’s policy, Jim Myron, 1 p
H
– SB 928, written testimony, Lawrence Edwards, 5 pp.
I
– SB 928, letter, Brad Harper, 2 pp.
J
– SB 928, letter, Michael Dundy, 1 p