SENATE COMMITTEE ON WATER AND LAND USE

 

 

February 03, 2003                                                                                                   Hearing Room D

3:00 p.m.                                                                                                                           Tapes 8 - 9

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Ted Ferrioli, Chair

Sen. Charlie Ringo, Vice-Chair

Sen. Jason Atkinson

Sen. Rick Metsger

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Megan Jensen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 97 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 8, A

005

Chair Ferrioli

Calls meeting to order at 3:10 p.m. and opens public hearing on SB 97.

SB 97 – PUBLIC HEARING

007

Sen. Beyer

Explains SB 97.

040

Sen. Ringo

Asks if the bill will address the question of whether citizens in the Oregon want wolves back.

043

Sen. Beyer

Responds.

051

Chair Ferrioli

Discusses how wolves fit into the Endangered Species Act and suggests that Oregon needs management authority over whether wolves come to Oregon or not.

077

Sen. Ringo

Comments that people who live in rural districts will be more affected by wolves coming to Oregon than people in urban districts.

080

Sen. Beyer

Responds.

094

Chair Ferrioli

Comments that if wolves are reintroduced to Oregon, it should be throughout their native range.

107

Ron Anglin

Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW) Wildlife Division Administrator. Presents written testimony and advises that the agency is neutral on SB 97 (EXHIBIT A).

151

Vice-Chair Ringo

Asks about the expected impact on predation from wolf reintroduction.

154

Anglin

Responds that ODFW is not clear about the impact on predation.

174

Sen. Atkinson

Wonders if wolf introduction changes the coyote population.

181

Mark Henjum

ODFW Wildlife Division Administrator. Responds that Yellowstone National Park has conducted long term studies which suggest the coyote population has been reduced by 70%.

185

Sen. Atkinson

Inquires if the decrease in coyotes is due to habitat competition or  to wolves killing coyotes.

188

Henjum

Responds that wolves prey on coyotes.

193

Sen. Atkinson

Asks about other states’ compensation policies for the loss of livestock by wolf predation.

200

Henjum

Answers that states do not pay for the loss of livestock, but the Defenders of Wildlife will compensate livestock owners for confirmed and probable losses due to wolf predation. Refers to submitted written materials (EXHIBIT D).

209

Sen. Atkinson

Asks about the historic range for wolves in Oregon.

215

Henjum

Responds.

229

Sen. Metsger

Explains the Bailey Foundation Fund maintained by the Defenders of Wildlife for livestock compensation.

246

Henjum

Elaborates.

249

Chair Ferrioli

Wonders if wolves in Oregon could be designated as experimental populations as in Idaho.

258

Henjum

Replies.

264

Chair Ferrioli

Suggests that designation as experimental population could help Oregon take management authority over wolves.

279

Sen. Atkinson

Asks if the Oregon Endangered Species Act list includes the California condor.

282

Henjum

Responds no.

284

Sen. Atkinson

Asks why the wolf is listed as an endangered species and not the California Condor.

292

Henjum

Responds.

300

Sen. Ringo

Offers a possible explanation that at one time the wolf did inhabit Oregon, whereas the California Condor did not. Clarifies that if the bill passed, wolf management would fall under the Department of Agriculture.

311

Anglin

Confirms that the Department of Agriculture is responsible for predator management.

315

Sen. Ringo

Asks if ODFW could create a management plan that does not require the wolf to be listed as a predator.

320

Anglin

Affirms.

325

Sen. Ringo

Inquires why ODFW hasn’t created a management plan before now.

327

Anglin

Responds. Clarifies monetary compensation issues.

365

Chair Ferrioli

Asks if there are any statistics on reimbursement claims made versus reimbursement claims settled.

370

Henjum

Responds.

397

Chair Ferrioli

Requests statistical analysis of the issue. Asks if he is aware of some counties adopting ordinances preventing the reintroduction of wolves.

402

Henjum

Replies.

TAPE 9, A

440

Glen Stonebrink

Oregon Cattlemen’s Association; Oregon Hay and Forage Association.  Gives testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT B).

TAPE 8, B

001

Stonebrink

Continues testimony for SB 97.

077

Sen. Ringo

Asks for clarification on the Cattlemen’s Association view of wolves in the 1840’s.

082

Stonebrink

Responds.

095

Sen. Ringo

Asks if the Cattlemen Association is against the idea of wolves in Oregon.

099

Stonebrink

Affirms.

108

Sen. Ringo

Admits concern that there will be significant killings of livestock if wolves are introduced to Oregon. Asks for experiences of that in other states.

116

Stonebrink

Responds that there are many instances of wolves killing livestock.

146

Sen. Ringo

Asks if there are there documented cases of wolves attacking or killing humans.

150

Stonebrink

Offers to provide that information at a later date.

156

Sen. Metsger

Asks for statistics showing that the number of wolf kills are less than other predatory kills.

176

Stonebrink

Responds.

205

Greg Addington

Oregon Farm Bureau. Testifies in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT C):

  • Removing the wolf from the Endangered Species list will save the state money
  • Classifying the wolf as a predator would help farmers and ranchers legally protect their property
  • Requiring ODFW to report quarterly on the status of the wild wolf population would be reasonable.

250

Chair Ferrioli

Requests documentation on changes in agricultural production patterns in states where wolves have been introduced.

256

Addington

Responds.

260

Al Elkins

Oregon Hunters Association. Testifies in support of SB 97.

297

Chair Ferrioli

Asks about his participation in the ODFW public information process regarding reintroduction of wolves.

302

Elkins

Responds.

315

Roger Huffman

Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) Animal Health and Identification Administrator. Discusses the current ODA policies about wolves in Oregon.

380

Huffman

Continues discussion of ODA policies.

TAPE 9, B

021

Sen. Ringo

Asks if there are documented cases of wolves attacking and killing humans.

023

Huffman

Offers to provide the information to the committee at a later date.

040

Sen. Ringo

Asks for clarification on whether there are cases of attacks on humans.

044

Chair Ferrioli

Comments that it would be beneficial to have documented case information to avoid perpetuating myths. Inquires about the penalty for killing a protected wolf.

054

Huffman

Responds that the United States Forest Service fines are up to $100,000 and jail time.

058

Chair Ferrioli

Asks about the difference between domesticated hybrid wolf and the native species.

061

Huffman

Responds.

070

Chair Ferrioli

Inquires about the fine for killing a hybrid wolf.

076

Huffman

Responds.

085

Chair Ferrioli

Asks about the wolf sanctuary in Millican, Oregon.

088

Huffman

Responds.

094

Chair Ferrioli

Asks if there was a release from the wolf sanctuary.

096

Huffman

Affirms.

102

Chair Ferrioli

Suggests that wolf hybrid breeders could be responsible for releasing some wolf hybrids and comments on the ambiguity of confronting the future of wolves in Oregon.

133

Sen. Metsger

Comments on the issue of wolves preying on fish in irrigation canals.

142

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Observes that the repealed language in the bill addresses the issue.

156

Chair Ferrioli

Closes the public hearing on SB 97 and adjourns the meeting at 4:15 p.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 97, written testimony,  Ron Anglin, 15 pp

B – SB 97, written testimony, Glen Stonebrink, 4 pp

C – SB 97, written testimony, G. Addington, 1 p

D – SB 97, written testimony, N. Weiss, 6 pp