SENATE COMMITTEE ON WATER AND LAND USE

 

 

March 05, 2003                                                                                                       Hearing Room D

3:00 p.m.                                                                                                                       Tapes 23 - 24

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Ted Ferrioli, Chair

Sen. Jason Atkinson

Sen. Rick Metsger

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Sen. Charlie Ringo, Vice-Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Megan Jensen, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURE/ISSUES HEARD:           SB 97 Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 23, A

005

Chair Ferrioli

Calls committee to order at 3:05 p.m. and opens public hearing on SB 97.

SB 97 – PUBLIC HEARING

026

Rep. Greg Smith

District 57 Representative. Provides testimony in support of SB 97. Believes the reintroduction of wolves will have a detrimental effect on the livelihoods of farmers and ranchers.

068

Rep. Wayne Krieger

District 1 Representative. Provides testimony in support of SB 97.

084

Helen Franklin

Law Finders Research of Law and Policy. Provides testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT A). Talks about options for wolf management in accordance with state and federal statues.

170

Sen. Ferrioli

Suggests taking issues regarding the state’s authority to Legislative Counsel.

181

Sharon Beck

Southern Oregon. Provides testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT B). Asserts that wolves should be removed from the Endangered Species list and kept out of Oregon. Discusses economic and environmental implications surrounding wolf management.

257

Sen. Atkinson

Asks how many public hearings on wolves she attended.

260

Beck

Replies that she attended three public hearings.

269

Elizabeth Howard

Churchill Leonard. Provides testimony in support of SB 97. Believes the wolf should be removed from the endangered species list and discusses economic and environmental concerns regarding wolf management.


 

347

Arleigh Isley

Oregon State University. Provides testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT C). Raises concerns about allowing wolves into Oregon.

TAPE 24, A

005

Isley

Continues testimony in support of SB 97.

055

Sen. Atkinson

Inquires about the length of time for a permanent wolf population to establish itself in Oregon.

060

Isley

Explains that a wild population could be established in approximately three years.

070

Garland Teich

Provides testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT D). Believes wolves should be managed as predators.

130

Laura Jones

Jackson County. Provides testimony against SB 97 (EXHIBIT E). Supports the re-colonization of wolves into their native habitat and believes that decisions about wolf management should be made by wildlife agencies.

162

Sen. Atkinson

Asks if she believes wolves are present in Oregon.

169

Jones

Responds that a wild wolf population most likely has not yet been established in the state.

172

Sen. Atkinson

Wonders whether the main concern is that wolves are coming to Oregon or that wolves are already in Oregon.

182

Chair Ferrioli

Asks if the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW) has authority under the Oregon Endangered Species Act to manage wolves.

196

Jones

Replies that ORS 498.012 and 496.172 give ODFW authority to manage wolves.

200

Chair Ferrioli

Wonders why ODFW would have a public input process on developing a management plan if they already have management authority.

202

Jones

Explains that ODFW might desire a more comprehensive plan.

204

Chair Ferrioli

Suggests obtaining clarification about the ODFW’s authority under current statutes.

208

Ben Boswell

Wallowa County Commissioner. Provides testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT F). Believes the wolf should be considered a predator.

280

Nancy Weiss

Defenders of Wildlife. Gives testimony against SB 97 (EXHIBIT G). States that the wolf should be allowed back into its native habitat and that wildlife agencies should make the decisions regarding wolf management. Talks about a Defenders of Wildlife poll conducted in 1999, which revealed that 70% of Oregonians would like to see the wolf restored to Oregon.

396

Sen. Atkinson

Asks for a copy of the questions asked in the poll.

400

Weiss

Offers to provide that information.

405

Sen. Atkinson

Asks if she believes wolves are coming to Oregon or are already in Oregon.

408

Weiss

Responds that there are at least a few wolves in Oregon.


 

TAPE 23, B

002

Chair Ferrioli

Asks if Defenders of Wildlife plans to do follow-up polls in areas that have since experienced wolf reintroduction or expansion.

008

Weiss

Talks about polls taken throughout the country.

025

Mack Birkmaier

Wallowa County. Gives testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT H). Believes that Oregon ranchers are entitled to protect livestock from predators such as the wolf.

160

Tom Ursey

Wallowa County. Provides testimony in support of SB 97 and believes wolves should be considered predators.

180

Arlene Kovash

Oregon Women for Agriculture. Gives testimony in support of SB 97 and states that wolves should be considered predators.

227

Stephen Kafoury

The Wildlife Society. Gives testimony against SB 97.

259

Warren Aney

The Wildlife Society. Provides testimony against SB 97 (EXHIBIT I) and expresses concerns about SB 97.

296

Sen. Atkinson

Asks if the Wildlife Society believes wolves are currently in Oregon.

300

Aney

Believes that there are no established breeding populations of wolves in Oregon.

306

Chair Ferrioli

Inquires if ODFW can issue permits to kill certain animals listed on the Oregon Endangered Species Act.

311

Aney

Replies that state law restricts that authority and suggests ODFW could offer further clarification.

320

Chair Ferrioli

Asks about distinguishing between a hybrid wolf and a wild wolf.

327

Aney

Explains.

337

Chair Ferrioli

Asks if the gray wolf is the native species being introduced into Oregon.

350

Aney

Affirms.

355

Chair Ferrioli

Wonders if a different species of wolf inhabited Oregon historically and asks the Wildlife Society to provide information on the genetic issues involved in distinguishing between a hybrid wolf and a wild wolf.

362

Aney

Comments on categorizing species of wolves and offers to provide more information to the committee.

370

Gwen Mulkey

Oregon Women for Agriculture. Provides testimony in support of SB 97. Discusses possible economic and environmental impacts of the   reintroduction of wolves into Oregon.

TAPE 24, B

003

Mulkey

Continues testimony in support of SB 97.

022

Chair Ferrioli

Comments that there will be a fiscal analysis of the designation of wolves as a predator but not of the reintroduction of wolves into Oregon.

033

Jerald Myra

Provides testimony in support of SB 97 (EXHIBIT J). Talks about the reproduction rates of wolves in Montana and provides statistics on predatory habits of wolves.

118

Chair Ferrioli

Requests that information for further study.

125

Daniel Hall

American Lands Alliance. Provides testimony against SB 97 (EXHIBIT K). Expresses concerns about SB 97.

163

Jerod Broadfoot

Safari Club International. Provides testimony in support of SB 97.

198

Justin Swarthout

Central Oregon. Provides testimony against SB 97.

246

Ben Miller

Oregon State University. Provides testimony against SB 97. States that the wolf originally inhabiting Oregon was a different subspecies.

253

Chair Ferrioli

Confirms that the wolf was a different subspecies.

255

Miller

Affirms and elaborates on taxonomical distinctions between species of wolves.

265

Chair Ferrioli

Asks if the historical record demonstrates that the species being reintroduced to Oregon is a non-native species.

268

Miller

Confirms that it is a non-native subspecies. Describes how to distinguish between a hybrid wolf and a wild wolf.

296

Chair Ferrioli

Inquires about testing on a dead wolf.

301

Miller

States that genetic testing will distinguish between hybrid and wild wolves.

397

Chair Ferrioli

Asks if there is a way to distinguish between a feral hybrid and a wild wolf.

312

Miller

Responds that a difference is found only in the behavior of the wolves.

322

Chair Ferrioli

Asks about skull measurements in wolves.

324

Miller

Explains the process.

333

Chair Ferrioli

Asks about musculature.

334

Miller

Clarifies.

345

Chair Ferrioli

Requests written information. Closes public hearing on SB 97.

The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony for SB 97:

 

Lori Duba

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L).

 

R. Martin

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT M).

 

Greg Addington

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT N).

 

Sharon Methvin

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT O).

 

Brett Brownscombe

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT P).

 

Jim Welsh

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Q).

 

Wally Sykes

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT R).

 

Staff

Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT S).

345

Chair Ferrioli

Adjourns meeting at 5:03 p.m.

 


EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A – SB 97, written testimony, Helen Franklin, 18 pp.

B – SB 97, written testimony, Sharon Beck, 96 pp.

C – SB 97, written testimony, Arleigh Isley, 4 pp.

D – SB 97, written testimony, Garland Teich, 2 pp.

E – SB 97, written testimony, Laura Jones, 1 p.

F – SB 97, written testimony, Ben Boswell, 8 pp.

G – SB 97, written testimony, Nancy Weiss, 13 pp.

H – SB 97, written testimony, Mack Birkmaier, 11 pp.

I – SB 97, written testimony, Warren Aney, 1 p.

J – SB 97, written testimony, Jerald Myra, 4 pp.

K – SB 97, written testimony, Daniel Hall, 2 pp.

L – SB 97, written testimony, Lori Duba, 1 p.

M – SB 97, written testimony, R. Martin, 1 p.

N – SB 97, written testimony, Greg Addington, 250 pp.

O – SB 97, written testimony, Sharon Methvin, 2 pp.

P – SB 97, written testimony, Brett Brownscombe, 2 pp.

Q – SB 97, written testimony, Jim Welsh, 1 p.

R – SB 97, written testimony, Wally Sykes, 1 p.

S – SB 97, written testimony, staff, 44 pp.