HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES
April 13, 2005 Hearing Room C
9:00 A.M. Tapes 47 - 48
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Patti Smith, Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist, Vice-Chair
Rep. Arnie Roblan, Vice-Chair
Rep. Terry Beyer
Rep. Chuck Burley
Rep. Mark Hass
Rep. Mac Sumner
STAFF PRESENT: Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator
Jania Zeeb, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2881 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2529 – Public Hearing
HB 2597 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 47, A |
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004 |
Chair Smith |
Calls the meeting to order at 9:04 a.m. Opens a public hearing on HB 2881. |
HB 2881 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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007 |
Rep. Wayne Krieger |
House District 1. Testifies in support of HB 2881. Submits informational material regarding HB 2881 (EXHIBIT B). |
047 |
Rep. Bob Jensen |
House District 58. Testifies in support of HB 2881. |
075 |
Rep. Roblan |
Asks if the listed status of Aleutian Canadian geese means they cannot be harassed. |
077 |
Rep. Jensen |
Responds that he is correct. |
088 |
Roy Elicker |
Deputy Director, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW). Submits prepared testimony with comments on HB 2881 (EXHIBIT C). Discusses what would happen if HB 2881 passes. |
151 |
Ron Anglin |
Wildlife Division Administrator, ODFW. Comments on the situation with the geese in California. Talks about the process of working with the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife to offer harassment permits. |
207 |
Rep. Boquist |
References HJM 5, which was heard by the committee on March 9. Inquires if this is one of the species that was discussed in regard to the Yu’pik native Alaskans and the Pacific Flyway Council issues discussed a few weeks ago. |
209 |
Anglin |
Responds that there was some conversation with regard to the Aleutian. |
212 |
Rep. Boquist |
Asks if the Yu’pik support or oppose HB 2881. |
231 |
Anglin |
Answers that it is not an issue to the Yu’pik, but presumes they would be supportive. |
215 |
Rep. Roblan |
Inquires about managing the subpopulation of the birds in the Tillamook area. |
219 |
Anglin |
Responds that the population can be managed. |
221 |
Chair P. Smith |
Asks what the change would be to the scientific name of the bird. |
222 |
Elicker |
Answers that he has the correct name in his written testimony. |
233 |
Justin Martin |
Nature Conservancy of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2881. Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2881 (EXHIBIT D). |
261 |
Ed Johnston |
Resident, Lane County. Testifies in support of HB 2881. |
275 |
Steven Kafoury |
Wildlife Society of Oregon. Agrees in substance with HB 2881. States that there is a problem with the process. |
311 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2881. |
HB 2881 – WORK SESSION |
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316 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 2881 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
319 |
Rep. Roblan |
States that a message needs to be sent to the Senate that the scientific name needs to be changed, and comments on Mr. Kafoury’s suggestions. |
335 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks if there is a reason not to wait until the amendments are drafted. |
344 |
Chair P. Smith |
Answers that the only amendment that needs to be done is to change the scientific name. |
347 |
Rep. Boquist |
Comments on the need to quickly pass the bill. States that ODFW might want to have both names in HB 2881. |
366 |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair P. Smith |
The motion CARRIES. REP. JENSEN and REP. KRIEGER will lead discussion on the floor. |
373 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the work session on HB 2881 and opens a public hearing on HB 2529. |
HB 2529 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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386 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2529. |
415 |
Ron Harder |
National Rifle Association of America (NRA). Testifies in support of HB 2529. Reads Rep. Krieger’s prepared testimony (EXHIBIT A) in support of HB 2529. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 2529 (EXHIBIT F). |
TAPE 48, A |
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028 |
Harder |
Discusses the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT G). |
043 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks for clarification on the problem that HB 2529 is addressing, asks if there are any facts to demonstrate that hunting is on the decline. |
049 |
Harder |
Responds that when areas are made inaccessible to hunters, HB 2529 would require that another area be made available to hunters. |
058 |
Al Elkins |
Oregon Hunters Association. Testifies in support of HB 2529 and the -1 amendments |
072 |
Roy Elicker |
Deputy Director, ODFW. Testifies in support of HB 2529. Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2529 (EXHIBIT H). |
084 |
Ron Anglin |
Wildlife Division Administrator, ODFW. Discusses the need for HB 2529. Gives an example of people asking for access for hunting in wildlife areas adjacent to new subdivisions. |
109 |
Chair P. Smith |
Asks if there will be a fiscal impact to HB 2529. |
110 |
Elicker |
Responds that he does not believe there will be a significant fiscal impact. |
113 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks how the department responds when they are told that people want access for hunting on wildlife areas closed. |
117 |
Anglin |
Answers by giving information on how the issue has been handled in the past. |
128 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks if the department has ever make the decision to close down an area from hunting. |
131 |
Anglin |
Responds that in recent times they have not made such a decision. |
139 |
Elicker |
States that people are concerned about illegal activities, so the department also cooperates with the State Police on these issues. |
148 |
Rep. Hass |
Wonders how big of a problem HB 2529 is seeking to address. Asks for statistics or facts to show that need for HB 2529. |
153 |
Elicker |
Responds that he cannot give statistics. Comments that ODFW supports hunting, and wants to make sure that hunting is a viable option on lands that the department manages. |
166 |
Rep. Burley |
Comments on taking his children hunting and the difficulty of finding land to hunt on. Summarizes what HB 2529 would do. Asks if Bridge Creek is closed to hunting. |
183 |
Anglin |
Responds that Bridge Creek is open, but there are times when it is closed for wildlife management. |
185 |
Rep. Burley |
Comments on how HB 2529 would affect Bridge Creek. |
189 |
Elicker |
Discusses other times when the department has closed Bridge Creek to hunting. |
194 |
Rep. Beyer |
Expresses the concern with restricting the department in the future, on being able to manage animals. |
208 |
Elicker |
Responds that his sense is that HB 2529 is asking the commission to keep close reporting on lands with hunting access. States that he does not see the measure having a big impact on the department. |
220 |
Rep. Sumner |
Asks where the department is going to get lands to replace the lands that they close. |
237 |
Elicker |
Answers that they would look to the Access and Habitat Program. |
260 |
Rep. Sumner |
Clarifies that this is not something the department dreads, rather it is considered an opportunity. |
262 |
Elicker |
Responds that the department does not have serious concerns about the bill and comments on how the department views HB 2529. |
280 |
Anglin |
Mentions that outside of migratory birds the federal government has no authority to regulate hunting. |
287 |
Rep. Hass |
Comments on the possibility of HB 2529 putting the agency in a bind in the future. |
301 |
Elicker |
Responds that that agency can work with HB 2529. |
325 |
Ed Johnston |
Resident, Lane County. Testifies in support of HB 2529. |
387 |
Jerod Broadfood |
Safari Club International “First for Hunters” (SCI). Testifies in support of HB 2529. |
TAPE 47, B |
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014 |
Rep. Burley |
Comments on Section 2 and ways the commission can work within the parameters of HB 2529. |
024 |
Rep. Hass |
Talks about why he has a problem with the section referred to by Rep. Burley. |
037 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2529 and opens a public hearing on HB 2597. |
HB 2597 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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049 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2597. |
053 |
Rep. Mike Schaufler |
House District 28. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Explains what the measure sets out to do. States that he supports the -1 amendments. |
091 |
Rep. Jeff Kropf |
House District 17. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Discusses how the minimum wage increase has affected farmers. |
178 |
Rep. Kropf |
States that the point of this bill is to make it easier for the farmers to compete despite the rising minimum wage. |
191 |
Rep. Kropf |
Testifies in support of the -1 amendments. |
198 |
Rep. Schaufler |
Discusses why he supports HB 2597. |
216 |
Rep. Kropf |
Comments on the increasing problem for farmers of wage adjustments as a result of the minimum wage adjustments. |
244 |
Rep. Sumner |
Discusses the fact that farmers are replacing hand labor with equipment, and that as a result of the purchase of the equipment they can write it off their taxes. States that if farmers are allowed to write off a portion of the labor expense it will encourage them to keep producing the products we need them to produce. |
259 |
Rep. Kropf |
States that Rep. Sumner is correct. Gives information on how the federal tax benefits have affected this situation. |
312 |
Scott Ashcom |
Oregon Agricultural Alliance. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2597 (EXHIBIT I). Gives information on the number of minimum wage jobs that have been lost as a result of the minimum wage change. |
351 |
Chair P. Smith |
Asks if Oregon and Washington are the two states with the highest minimum wage. |
355 |
Ashcom |
Concurs. |
383 |
Don Schellenberg |
Oregon Farm Bureau (OFB). Testifies in support of HB 2597. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 2597 (EXHIBIT J). |
TAPE 48, B |
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014 |
Barry Bushue |
President, OFB. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Discusses the problems that HB 2597 addresses. |
042 |
Kathleen Femrite |
Femrite Nursery Company. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2597 (EXHIBIT K). Discusses the consequences of the higher minimum wage on Femrite Nursery. |
077 |
Rep. Beyer |
Inquires what percentage of Femrite Nurseries employees earn minimum wage and what percentage are paid over minimum wage. |
078 |
Femrite |
Responds by giving information on their employees. |
084 |
Rod Park |
Parks Nursery Company. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 2597 (EXHIBIT L). |
129 |
John McCulley |
Tree Fruit Growers. Testifies in support of HB 2597. |
153 |
Mark Krautmann |
Heritage Seedlings Incorporated. Testifies in support of HB 2597. |
192 |
Rep. Beyer |
Asks about profit margins for nurseries. |
200 |
Krautmann |
Explains how they make their profit. |
215 |
Rep. Beyer |
Asks how many employees Heritage Seedlings has and how many are entry level employees. |
220 |
Krautmann |
Responds by giving numbers of how many employees they have, and how many of them are entry level. Discusses added costs for the business. |
235 |
Rep. Beyer |
Inquires if the entry level positions are seasonal. |
238 |
Krautmann |
Responds that Heritage Seedlings has no seasonal employees. |
248 |
Shawn Miller |
Pacific Northwest Christmas Tree Association. Testifies in support of HB 2597 with the -1 amendments. |
260 |
Bob Schafer |
Testifies in support of HB 2597. Gives information on how the minimum wage is affecting his company. |
297 |
Rep. Boquist |
Asks about foreign competition. |
303 |
Schafer |
Discusses companies that are growing Christmas trees in Mexico. |
330 |
Pieper Sweeney |
County Heritage Farm. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Gives information on how the rise in minimum wage has affected her farm. |
387 |
Billy Townsend |
Townsend Farms. Testifies in support of HB 2597. Gives information on how the minimum wage increase has affected his farm. |
450 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2597 and adjourns the meeting at 10:57 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
EXHIBIT SUMMARY