HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES
April 20, 2005 Hearing Room C
9:00 A.M. Tapes 49 - 51
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Patti Smith, Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist, Vice-Chair
Rep. Arnie Roblan, Vice-Chair
Rep. Terry Beyer
Rep. Chuck Burley
Rep. Mark Hass
Rep. Mac Sumner
STAFF PRESENT: Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator
Jania Zeeb, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 3258 – Public Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 49, A |
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002 |
Chair P. Smith |
Calls meeting to order at 9:02 a.m. Opens a public hearing on HB 3258. |
HB 3258 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 3258. |
012 |
Tim Bernasek |
Oregon Farm Bureau. Submits copies of prepared testimony in support of HB 3258 (EXHIBIT A). Discusses the history behind this legislation. |
116 |
Bernasek |
Continues discussing the history behind HB 3258. Talks about the issues that HB 3258 addresses. |
163 |
Mark Simmons |
Oregon Association of Nurseries. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 3258 (EXHIBIT B). Testifies in support of HB 3258. |
239 |
Simmons |
Discusses the desired outcome of HB 3258 for farm workers. |
245 |
Kirk Peterson |
NorPac. Testifies in support of HB 3258. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 3258 (EXHIBIT C). Gives a definition of collective bargaining. |
321 |
Peterson |
Continues reading prepared testimony. |
347 |
Ken Bailey |
Vice Chairman, Oregon Board of Agriculture. Testifies in support of HB 3258. Submits a letter from the Board of Agriculture in support of HB 3258 (EXHIBIT D). States that the issue is what is in the best interest of the worker. |
389 |
Bailey |
Talks about reasons why the past legislation has not been successful. |
TAPE 50, A |
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013 |
Rep. Beyer |
Comments on binding arbitration and the situation in California. Asks what would prevent what is happening in California from happening in Oregon if the bill is passed. |
024 |
Bailey |
Disagrees with the assumption that what has happened in California will happen in Oregon. |
031 |
Peterson |
Answers that in California the culture is different, and there are many reasons why collective bargaining agreements have not been reached. Discusses what is happening in California. |
049 |
Rep. Boquist |
Asks what groups are represented by members on the Board of Agriculture. |
053 |
Bailey |
Answers by listing who the members of the Board of Agriculture represent, and how they are appointed to the board. |
061 |
Rep. Boquist |
Inquires if it is still correct that no more than five members can be of the same political party |
063 |
Bailey |
Concurs |
068 |
Rep. Boquist |
Refers to the letter from the Board of Agriculture (EXHIBIT D). Asks how many members of the board were present when the letter was adopted. |
070 |
Bailey |
Responds that there was one member absent. |
073 |
Rep. Roblan |
Comments on uniqueness of agricultural work and the need for agriculture. Inquires how to ensure that everyone will be helped by this kind of legislation. |
086 |
Bernasek |
Discusses what is happening in California, and gives examples of success stories. Comments on the fear of a strike when the harvest is being brought in. States that the agriculture community is open to looking at this different ways to address the issue. |
126 |
Bailey |
States that HB 3258 does not eliminate the ability of the workers to strike, or the ability to call for a secondary boycott. |
137 |
Rep. Roblan |
Asks if proponents of the bill have looked at other options with binding arbitration. |
141 |
Bailey |
Speaks to the issue of binding arbitration. |
154 |
Rep. Burley |
Inquires where in the statute mandatory binding interest arbitration is dealt with. |
161 |
Peterson |
States that it is in ORS chapter 243. |
170 |
Marty Myers |
Threemile Canyon Farms. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 3258 (EXHIBIT E). |
244 |
Mark Dickman |
Dickman Farms, Silverton Oregon. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 3258 (EXHIBIT F). |
298 |
Dickman |
Gives an example from his time at NorPac. |
334 |
Barry Bushue |
OFB. Testifies in support of HB 3258. Discusses past attempts to address collective bargaining. |
TAPE 49, B |
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020 |
Michael Dale |
Northwest Workers Justice Project. Submits prepared testimony in opposition to HB 3258 (EXHIBIT G). Discusses the problem and uses the pear industry as an example. States that moving the bill forward will not solve any of the problems with collective bargaining. |
111 |
Leo DeGaric- Vallejo |
Testifies in opposition to HB 3258. Comments that farm work is different than other types of work. |
159 |
Vallejo |
States that many of the concepts work theoretically, but do not work when applied. |
193 |
Vallejo |
Lists reasons he opposes HB 3258. |
198 |
Ramon Ramirez |
President, Oregon Farm Worker United (PCUN). Submits prepared testimony in opposition to HB 3258 (EXHIBIT H). Discusses the five principles that are important for farm workers to have in regard to this issue. |
244 |
Ramirez |
Voices disagreement with comments made earlier that labor has not entered into negotiations. References the work group labor participated in. |
280 |
Ramirez |
Comments on the compromises labor has made. |
304 |
Ramirez |
States that PCUN is willing to sit down with the industry, but not to rehash things that have been discussed in previous sessions. |
330 |
Eduardo Angulo |
Testifies in opposition to HB 3258. Submits newspaper articles regarding taxation of illegal immigrants (EXHIBIT I). |
381 |
Norene Goplen |
Director of Advocacy, Lutheran Advocacy Ministry of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 3258. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support to HB 3258 (EXHIBIT J). |
TAPE 50, B |
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021 |
Edrin Hilgato |
Farm worker. Testifies in support of HB 3258. |
050 |
Steven Witte |
Executive Director, Oregon Farm Workers Ministry. Submits prepared testimony in opposition to HB 3258 (EXHIBIT K). |
087 |
Lynn Lundquist |
President, Oregon Business Association. Testifies in support of HB 3258 and comments on the need for certainty in the business world. |
117 |
Bob Terry |
Oregon Association of Nurseries. Testifies in support of HB 3258. States that there are farms in Oregon that employ year round. Comments on the stability that HB 3258 would provide. |
151 |
Chair P. Smith |
Speaks about the need to have this discussion, regardless of what has happened with this in the Legislature in the past. |
154 |
Rep. Beyer |
Comments that she can sympathize with both sides the issue, and the need for both sides to come to a consensus. |
170 |
Dick Joyce |
Joyce Farms; Oregon Association of Nurseries. Testifies in support of HB 3258. Comments that the union issue should not discussed in terms of religion. |
212 |
Matt Swanson |
Oregon American Federation of Labor – Congress of Industrial Organization (AFL-CIO). Testifies in opposition to HB 3258. Discusses reasons why AFL-CIO is opposed to HB 3258. Talks about the average time line for arbitration. |
259 |
Robert Castagna |
General Counsel, Oregon Catholic Conference. Testifies in opposition to HB 3258. Discusses reasons for his organization’s opposition to HB 3258. |
325 |
Bernasek |
Addresses some of the concerns that have been discusses in this meeting. |
422 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks if the bill’s proponents would still support the bill if there was a sunset provision added. |
TAPE 51, A |
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016 |
Bernasek |
Comments that the proponents would be willing to seriously consider such an amendment. |
021 |
Rep. Burley |
Comments that the bill gives farm workers the same framework as any other employee in the state. Asks if people who are seasonal workers in the forest industry would have the same rights under ORS Chapter 663 if the measure passes. |
029 |
Bernasek |
Concurs. |
033 |
Simmons |
Comments that the employees in the nursery industry are employed year round, rather than seasonal workers. |
052 |
Chair Smith |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 3258. |
HB 3258 – WORK SESSION |
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053 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 3258 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
058 |
Rep. Hass |
Remarks that he wants to support the concept but asserts that changes need to be made. |
066 |
Rep. Roblan |
Mentions the importance of having groups negotiate and work things out. States that he will vote for the measure, but reserves the right to vote against it when it gets to the floor. Comments on the importance of this conversation. |
077 |
Rep. Beyer |
States that she wants to support HB 3258, but she does not believe that it will work |
083 |
Rep. Boquist |
Comments that this is part of a 30-year disagreement and reviews what has happened over the years. Comments on the need to move this out and have the Governor deal with the issue. |
098 |
Rep. Burley |
Responds to some of the testimony that has been heard during the meeting. |
113 |
Rep. Sumner |
States that this is a framework of legislation that can be built from. |
118 |
Chair P. Smith |
Remarks that she was on the Agriculture and Forestry Committee in 2001, and this was discussed in that committee. States that this is a good bill. |
120 |
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VOTE: 6-1-0 AYE: 6 - Boquist, Burley, Hass, Roblan, Sumner, Smith P. NAY: 1 - Beyer |
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Chair P. Smith |
The motion CARRIES. REP. BOQUIST will lead discussion on the floor. |
129 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the work session on HB 3258 and adjourns the meeting at 11:03 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY