HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES
May 02, 2005 Hearing Room C
9:00 A.M. Tapes 56 - 57
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Patti Smith, Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist, Vice-Chair
Rep. Arnie Roblan, Vice-Chair
Rep. Terry Beyer
Rep. Chuck Burley
Rep. Mark Hass
Rep. Mac Sumner
STAFF PRESENT: Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator
Jania Zeeb, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2930 – Public Hearing
HB 3082 – Work Session
Approval of Drafting Requests – Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 56, A |
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003 |
Chair P. Smith |
Calls the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 2930. |
HB 2930 – Public Hearing |
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007 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 2930. |
020 |
Kristina McNitt |
Oregon Small Woodlands Association (OSWA). Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 2930 (EXHIBIT A). Discusses the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT B). |
061 |
McNitt |
Discusses the symposium on family forestland and the resulting report (EXHIBIT C). |
068 |
Mike Gaudern |
Executive Director, OSWA. Testifies in support of HB 2930. Discusses the benefits of HB 2930. |
105 |
Gaudern |
Comments on the challenge of owning family woodlands. |
134 |
Rep. Hass |
Inquires if there is a fiscal impact statement on HB 2930. |
137 |
Brennan |
Responds that the committee has not received a fiscal impact statement on HB 2930. |
139 |
Chair P. Smith |
Asks if there is a fiscal impact. |
140 |
Brennan |
Responds he is unsure. |
142 |
McNitt |
Comments that the intent is not to add any responsibilities to the Department of Forestry. |
150 |
Rep. Hass |
Talks about his concerns with HB 2930. Comments on the vague language used in the bill. |
163 |
Gaudern |
Mentions his training in forestry. Comments on the communication gap between professionals and woodland owners. |
185 |
Rep. Hass |
Questions how to enforce departmental consideration. |
197 |
McNitt |
Answers by discussing the type of things the bill’s proponents are trying to avoid. Refers to the publication, and what was found in the symposium (EXHIBIT C, Page 6). |
239 |
McNitt |
Talks about what the Board of Forestry is already required to do. |
246 |
Rep. Roblan |
Refers to the -1 amendments. Talks about the possibility of a fiscal impact, and asks if Ms. McNitt could comment on that. |
266 |
McNitt |
Responds that those are the types of discussions they would like to have with the Board of Forestry. |
283 |
Rep. Roblan |
Comments on the landowners he knows in Coos County. States that he understands the issue. |
299 |
Rep. Burley |
States that all family forest landowners are subject to the Forest Protection Act. Asks if HB 2930 would change that. |
302 |
McNitt |
Replies it will not affect that. |
303 |
Rep. Burley |
States that they already answered his question regarding long term regulatory stability verses short term impact. Discusses the example of the stream-side protection rule change and the effects that had on decision making. |
321 |
Gaudern |
Comments that he has seen what happens when private landowners sell off the land. |
346 |
George Ponte |
Forest Policy Analyst, Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF). Submits and reads prepared testimony regarding HB 2930 (EXHIBIT D). |
414 |
Ponte |
Comments on the main concern ODF has with HB 2930. |
TAPE 57, A |
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012 |
Chair P. Smith |
Asks if Mr. Ponte can address the fiscal impact. |
014 |
Ponte |
States that he does not know the fiscal impact. |
017 |
Rep. Roblan |
Asks if there is a word that would be more acceptable to ODF than the one currently used. |
020 |
Ponte |
Answers that he does not know. |
022 |
Rep. Burley |
Uses the stream-side protection example from earlier. Talks about how there are situations when the private landowner’s contribution can be quantified. |
030 |
Ponte |
Responds that he does not disagree with the concept, but explains the information that is not available to ODF. |
040 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the Public hearing on HB 2930 and opens a work session on HB 3082. |
HB 3082 – WORK SESSION |
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058 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 3082. Discusses the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
074 |
Terry Witt |
Executive Director, Oregonians for Food and Shelter (OFS). Discusses the -2 amendments. |
103 |
Witt |
Talks about the changes the -2 amendments make to HB 3082. |
112 |
Witt |
States that the administration of the program has been shifted from the Department of State Police to the Department of Agriculture. |
120 |
Witt |
Begins a section-by-section overview of the -2 amendments. |
164 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks for clarification on how much it costs to add the product. |
165 |
Witt |
States that the price of Glo-Tell is about $9 per ton of treated material. |
168 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks what the cost would be if all of the ammonia in the state was treated with Glo-Tell . |
172 |
Witt |
Responds that in 2003 there were 25,800 tons shipped into the state to be used as fertilizer. |
185 |
Witt |
Continues talking about the -2 amendments. |
226 |
Witt |
Discusses the requirements for reimbursement. |
261 |
Witt |
Talks about section 5 of the -2 amendments. |
297 |
Lt. Craig Durbin |
Oregon State Police. Comments on what was considered in the work group. States that is the measure will provide another piece of the puzzle to help curb methamphetamine production. |
345 |
Durbin |
Discusses the importance of discouraging the use of anhydrous ammonia in making meth. |
394 |
Witt |
Comments on the benefits of sending HB 3082 to Ways and Means. |
410 |
Lisa Hanson |
Assistant Director, Department of Agriculture. States that the Department supports the discouragement of meth. States that they anticipate that additional resources would be needed as a result of HB 3082. |
TAPE 56, B |
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010 |
Chair P. Smith |
Asks how much additional resources would be needed. |
013 |
Hanson |
Answers that the department has not put together an official fiscal impact. |
014 |
Chair P. Smith |
Inquires about the development of the fiscal impact for the measure. |
015 |
Brennan |
Responds that it would be done when the bill is sent to the Joint Committee on Ways and Means. |
018 |
Rep. Boquist |
Comments on the benefits of looking at what other states have done in this area and learning from their programs. |
028 |
Hanson |
Responds that the department would look at the programs in other states. |
035 |
Witt |
States why the fiscal impact is higher in the midwestern states. Comments on the benefits of HB 3082. |
052 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3082-2 amendments dated 4/29/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.
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Chair P. Smith |
The motion CARRIES. |
052 |
Rep. Roblan |
MOTION: Moves HB 3082 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the Committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the Committee on Revenue. |
060 |
Rep. Burley |
States that he will support HB 3082 even though in principle he is usually not in favor of statutory committees, one of which is created by the bill. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair P. Smith |
The motion CARRIES. |
079 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the work session on HB 3082 and opens a work session for the approval of drafting requests. |
APPROVAL OF DRAFTING REQUESTS – WORK SESSION |
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084 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Explains the drafting request regarding the designation of an official state rose (EXHIBIT F). Explains the drafting request regarding the management of wolves (EXHIBIT G). |
015 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves with the Speakers approval that Legislative Counsel BE DIRECTED to draft bills regarding wolf management and designating the official state rose. |
121 |
Rep. Beyer |
Clarifies that this is just for drafting and does not indicate support for or opposition to a bill. |
123 |
Chair P. Smith |
Discusses the process. |
127 |
Brennan |
Talks about the process. |
129 |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair P. Smith |
The motion CARRIES. |
138 |
Chair P. Smith |
Closes the work session on the approval of drafting requests and adjourns the meeting at 10:13 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY