HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES

 

May 02, 2005 Hearing Room C

9:00 A.M. Tapes  56 - 57

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Patti Smith, Chair

Rep. Brian Boquist, Vice-Chair

Rep. Arnie Roblan, Vice-Chair

Rep. Terry Beyer

Rep. Chuck Burley

Rep. Mark Hass

Rep. Mac Sumner

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator

Jania Zeeb, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

HB 2930 – Public Hearing

HB 3082 – Work Session

Approval of Drafting Requests – Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 56, A

003

Chair P. Smith

Calls the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 2930.

HB 2930 – Public Hearing

007

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator.  Summarizes HB 2930.

020

Kristina McNitt

Oregon Small Woodlands Association (OSWA).  Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 2930 (EXHIBIT A).  Discusses the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT B)

061

McNitt

Discusses the symposium on family forestland and the resulting report (EXHIBIT C).

068

Mike Gaudern

Executive Director, OSWA.  Testifies in support of HB 2930.  Discusses the benefits of HB 2930. 

105

Gaudern

Comments on the challenge of owning family woodlands. 

134

Rep. Hass

Inquires if there is a fiscal impact statement on HB 2930.

137

Brennan

Responds that the committee has not received a fiscal impact statement on HB 2930.

139

Chair P. Smith

Asks if there is a fiscal impact.

140

Brennan

Responds he is unsure.

142

McNitt

Comments that the intent is not to add any responsibilities to the Department of Forestry. 

150

Rep. Hass

Talks about his concerns with HB 2930.  Comments on the vague language used in the bill.

163

Gaudern

Mentions his training in forestry.  Comments on the communication gap between professionals and woodland owners. 

185

Rep. Hass

Questions how to enforce departmental consideration.

197

McNitt

Answers by discussing the type of things the bill’s proponents are trying to avoid.  Refers to the publication, and what was found in the symposium (EXHIBIT C, Page 6).

239

McNitt

Talks about what the Board of Forestry is already required to do.

246

Rep. Roblan

Refers to the -1 amendments.  Talks about the possibility of a fiscal impact, and asks if Ms. McNitt could comment on that.

266

McNitt

Responds that those are the types of discussions they would like to have with the Board of Forestry. 

283

Rep. Roblan

Comments on the landowners he knows in Coos County.  States that he understands the issue. 

299

Rep. Burley

States that all family forest landowners are subject to the Forest Protection Act.  Asks if HB 2930 would change that.

302

McNitt

Replies it will not affect that.

303

Rep. Burley

States that they already answered his question regarding long term regulatory stability verses short term impact.  Discusses the example of the stream-side protection rule change and the effects that had on decision making.  

321

Gaudern

Comments that he has seen what happens when private landowners sell off the land. 

346

George Ponte

Forest Policy Analyst, Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF).  Submits and reads prepared testimony regarding HB 2930 (EXHIBIT D)

414

Ponte

Comments on the main concern ODF has with HB 2930.

TAPE 57, A

012

Chair P. Smith

Asks if Mr. Ponte can address the fiscal impact.

014

Ponte

States that he does not know the fiscal impact.

017

Rep. Roblan

Asks if there is a word that would be more acceptable to ODF than the one currently used.

020

Ponte

Answers that he does not know.

022

Rep. Burley

Uses the stream-side protection example from earlier.  Talks about how there are situations when the private landowner’s contribution can be quantified.

030

Ponte

Responds that he does not disagree with the concept, but explains the information that is not available to ODF.

040

Chair P. Smith

Closes the Public hearing on HB 2930 and opens a work session on  HB 3082.

HB 3082 – WORK SESSION

058

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator.  Summarizes HB 3082.  Discusses the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT D).

074

Terry Witt

Executive Director, Oregonians for Food and Shelter (OFS).  Discusses the -2 amendments. 

103

Witt

Talks about the changes the -2 amendments make to HB 3082.

112

Witt

States that the administration of the program has been shifted from the Department of State Police to the Department of Agriculture. 

120

Witt

Begins a section-by-section overview of the -2 amendments.

164

Rep. Burley

Asks for clarification on how much it costs to add the product.

165

Witt

States that the price of Glo-Tell  is about $9 per ton of treated material.

168

Rep. Burley

Asks what the cost would be if all of the ammonia in the state was treated with Glo-Tell . 

172

Witt

Responds that in 2003 there were 25,800 tons shipped into the state to be used as fertilizer.

185

Witt

Continues talking about the -2 amendments.

226

Witt

Discusses the requirements for reimbursement.

261

Witt

Talks about section 5 of the -2 amendments. 

297

Lt. Craig Durbin

Oregon State Police.  Comments on what was considered in the work group.  States that is the measure will provide another piece of the puzzle to help curb methamphetamine production.

345

Durbin

Discusses the importance of discouraging the use of anhydrous ammonia in making meth.

394

Witt

Comments on the benefits of sending HB 3082 to Ways and Means.

410

Lisa Hanson

Assistant Director, Department of Agriculture.  States that the Department supports the discouragement of meth.  States that they anticipate that additional resources would be needed as a result of     HB 3082.

TAPE 56, B

010

Chair P. Smith

Asks how much additional resources would be needed.

013

Hanson

Answers that the department has not put together an official fiscal impact.

014

Chair P. Smith

Inquires about the development of the fiscal impact for the measure.

015

Brennan

Responds that it would be done when the bill is sent to the Joint Committee on Ways and Means.

018

Rep. Boquist

Comments on the benefits of looking at what other states have done in this area and learning from their programs.

028

Hanson

Responds that the department would look at the programs in other states. 

035

Witt

States why the fiscal impact is higher in the midwestern states.  Comments on the benefits of HB 3082.

052

Rep. Boquist

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 3082-2 amendments dated 4/29/05.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

 

Chair P. Smith

The motion CARRIES.

052

Rep. Roblan

MOTION:  Moves HB  3082 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the Committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the Committee on Revenue.

060

Rep. Burley

States that he will support HB 3082 even though in principle he is usually not in favor of statutory committees, one of which is created by the bill.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair P. Smith

The motion CARRIES.

079

Chair P. Smith

Closes the work session on HB 3082 and opens a work session for the approval of drafting requests.

APPROVAL OF DRAFTING REQUESTS – WORK SESSION

084

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator.  Explains the drafting request regarding the designation of an official state rose (EXHIBIT F).  Explains the drafting request regarding the management of wolves (EXHIBIT G)

015

Rep. Boquist

MOTION:  Moves with the Speakers approval that Legislative Counsel BE DIRECTED to draft bills regarding wolf management and designating the official state rose.

121

Rep. Beyer

Clarifies that this is just for drafting and does not indicate support for or opposition to a bill.

123

Chair P. Smith

Discusses the process.

127

Brennan

Talks about the process.

129

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair P. Smith

The motion CARRIES.

138

Chair P. Smith

Closes the work session on the approval of drafting requests and adjourns the meeting at 10:13 a.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. HB 2930, prepared testimony, Kristina McNitt, 3 pp
  2. HB 2930, -1 amendments, Rep. Smith, 1 p
  3. HB 2930, informational material, Kristina McNitt, 16 pp
  4. HB 2930, prepared testimony, George Ponte, 2 pp
  5. HB 3082, -2 amendments, staff, 6 pp
  6. Drafting Request, Oregold Rose, staff, 2 pp
  7. Drafting Request, wolf management, staff, 13 pp