HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

BUSINESS, LABOR, AND CONSUMER AFFAIRS

 

 

April 04, 2005 Hearing Room B

8:30 A.M. Tapes  77 - 78

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Alan Brown, Chair

Rep. Sal Esquivel, Vice-Chair

Rep. Mike Schaufler, Vice-Chair

Rep. Paul Holvey

Rep. George Gilman

Rep. Derrick Kitts

Rep. Chip Shields

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Janet Adkins, Committee Administrator

Katie Howard, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

HB 2578 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2392 – Work Session

HB 2383 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 77, A

003

Chair Brown

Calls the meeting to order at 8:38 a.m.  Opens the public hearing on HB 2578.

HB 2578 – PUBLIC HEARING

008

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator.  Explains HB 2578.  Submits and explains the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT A)

028

Pamela Leavitt

Credit Union Association of Oregon.  Submits written testimony in support of HB 2578 (EXHIBIT B).  States that it will change many aspects of the Oregon Credit Union Act.  Believes that no opposition exists to the bill.

040

Hal Scoggins

Counsel, Credit Union Association of Oregon.  Submits written testimony in support of HB 2578 (EXHIBIT C).  Asserts that HB 2578 consists mostly of technical changes.  Addresses the issue of the mobile facility.  Discusses how it would benefit credit unions.  Says that the mobile facilities can operate in places that fall within the credit unions geographic membership area.  Speaks about the importance of creating confidentiality standards.

098

Scoggins

Discusses the Regular Reserve Transfer (EXHIBIT C, Page 3).  Explains the differences that exist between the transfer requirements for banks and Oregon credit unions.

141

Adkins

Asks if the Oregon Banking Statute, in relation to confidentiality, currently applies to Oregon credit unions.

145

Scoggins

Believes that the current Oregon Banking Statute does cover credit unions.

151

Adkins

Asks if the change to the confidentiality rules is a substantive change.

151

Scoggines

Says that it is not a substantive change.

152

Chair Brown

Asks what the upper limit on deposit insurance is for credit unions.

154

Scoggins

Notes that the deposit insurance is similar to the Federal Deposit Insurance Company (FDIC) $100,000 limit and says that $100,000 limit is based on the type of account ownership.

163

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2578 and opens the work session on HB 2578

HB 2578 – WORK SESSION

169

Rep. Esquivel

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2578-1 amendments dated 03/31/05.

171

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

172

Rep. Esquivel

MOTION:  Moves HB 2578 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

178

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

REP. ESQUIVEL will lead discussion on the floor.

190

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2578.  Opens the work session on HB 2392.

HB 2392 – WORK SESSION

192

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator.  Explains HB 2392.  Mentions the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT D)

214

Rep. Kitts

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2392-1 amendments dated 3/31/05.

217

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

225

Rep. Kitts

Asks if the committee would like a do pass recommendation to Ways and Means.

227

Chair Brown

Suggest a do pass recommendation.

229

Rep. Gilman

States that he does not favor a do pass recommendation.

232

Rep. Kitts

MOTION:  Moves HB 2392 BE REFERRED as amended to the committee on Ways and Means WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage.

242

Rep. Holvey

Asks why it does not have a do pass recommendation.

244

Rep. Gilman

Believes that it should have no recommendation.

246

Rep. Schaufler

Urges the Ways and Means Committee to pass HB 2392.

250

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - Esquivel

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

256

Chair Brown

Closes the work session on HB 2392.  Opens the public hearing on HB 2383.

HB 2383 – PUBLIC HEARING

260

Janet Adkins

Committee Administrator.  Explains HB 2383.

275

Rep. Donna Nelson

House District 24.  Submits informational packet (EXHIBIT E) and speaks in support of HB 2383. Talks about her experience in the private business world.  Says that competitive bidding is very important and believes that there should be private and public competition for public contracts.  

336

Rep. Nelson

Believes that HB 2383 will bring the government contracting program into line with the consumer needs.  Notes that HB 2383 is long overdue and reads the paper “Exposing the Myths and Realities of Competitive Sourcing”(EXHIBIT E, Page 14 – 18).  Says that unions have attacked competitive sourcing.   

390

Rep. Nelson

Addresses and reads myth number one (EXHIBIT E, Page 14).  Begins to read myth number two (EXHIBIT E, Page 15).

TAPE 78, A

001

Rep. Nelson

Continues to read myth number two (EXHIBIT E, Page 15).  Reads myth number three (EXHIBIT E, Page 15).  Speaks in support of achieving desired outcomes through performance and mission critical activities. 

054

Rep. Nelson

Reads myth number five (EXHIBIT E, Page 16).  Reads myth six (EXHIBIT E, Page 16 – 17)

093

Rep. Nelson

Talks about a bidding process that her company went through with the government and how they wanted to use a bar code system.  States that the government agency did not approve using the bar code and notes that, since the government agency could not move quickly, money was lost.  Mentions Planned Loving Adoptions Now (PLAN) in McMinnville. 

134

Rep. Holvey

Asks about competitive sourcing and if there are assurances that the competition will not reduce wages.

136

Rep. Nelson

States that it could be written into the process.

139

Chair Brown

Asks if the Mayor of Indianapolis made similar changes to those in HB 2383.

144

Rep. Nelson

States that she does not know.

148

Sandra Bishop

Fair Competition Alliance (FCA).  States that the FCA is in support of HB 2383 as long as it is broadened.  Talks about Qualified Rehabilitation Facilities (QRF) and how they secure contracts.  Says that QRFs are forcing wages down and family wage jobs are being lost.  Wants to amend HB 2383 to include a review of the current Oregon public purchasing and public contract processes and policies. 

186

Bishop

Talks about Vendor Collected Administrative Fee and gives an example of the administrative fee.   States that the people who bid on a printing contract for the state were told that they would have to pay an administrative fee to the Department of Administrative Services (DAS).  Says that HB 2383 could be a vehicle to investigate the total public procurement process.

202

Rep. Schaufler

Asks if the fee is currently being paid by the vendors.

205

Bishop

Says that the fee is not currently being paid.  States that it was addressed in the 2003 House Audits Committee and the Legislature said that they would not allow DAS to charge the fee.

213

Rep. Schaufler

Wants to see a tight, narrow definition of disabled before the statute can be changed.  

221

Bishop

States that FCA is pushing for greater transparency in the public contracting process and that getting a definition of disabled is impossible. 

239

Chair Brown

Closes the public hearing on HB 2383.  Opens a work session for the reconsideration of HB 2392.

HB 2392 – WORK SESSION

245

Rep. Kitts

MOTION:  Moves to RECONSIDER the vote by which HB 2392 was REFERRED as amended to the committee on Ways and Means WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION as to passage.

270

Rep. Gilman

States that he will not vote against reconsidering the vote, but says that he will be voting against HB 2392.

271

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Brown

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

273

Rep. Kitts

MOTION:  Moves HB 2392 with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

280

 

VOTE:  6-1-0

AYE:               6 - Esquivel, Holvey, Kitts, Schaufler, Shields, Brown

NAY:               1 – Gilman

 

Chair Brown

The motion CARRIES.

292

Chair Brown

Closes the work session for the reconsideration of HB 2392.  Adjourns the meeting at 9:29 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. HB 2578, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  2. HB 2578, written testimony, Pamela Leavitt, 5 pp
  3. HB 2578, written testimony, Hal Scoggins, 3 pp
  4. HB 2392, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  5. HB 2383, informational packet, Rep. Donna Nelson, 18 pp