HOUSE COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT
March 03, 2005 Hearing Room B
8:30 A.M. Tapes 22 - 23
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Vicki Berger, Chair
Rep. Peter Buckley, Vice-Chair
Rep. Mac Sumner, Vice-Chair
Rep. Kevin Cameron
Rep. Sal Esquivel
Rep. Larry Galizio
Rep. Brad Witt
STAFF PRESENT: Caralyn Fischer, Committee Administrator
Linda K. Gatto, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Introduction of Committee Measures – Work Session
HB 2253 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2259 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2157 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 22, A |
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004 |
Chair Berger |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:34 a.m. and announces changes in the agenda. Opens a work session on introduction of committee measures. |
INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE MEASURES – WORK SESSION |
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008 |
Caralyn Fischer |
Committee Administrator. Reviews LC 2576 brought by the Library Association. |
020 |
Chair Berger |
States that support for introduction of bill as a committee bill does not indicate support for the bill itself. |
021 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: Moves LC 2576 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill (EXHIBIT A). |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Berger |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
026 |
Fischer |
Reviews that LC 2775 regards unclaimed financial properties. |
040 |
Chair Berger |
Repeats that support for the introduction of the bill does not indicate support for the bill itself. |
042 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: Moves LC 2775 BE INTRODUCED as a committee bill (EXHIBIT B). |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Berger |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
025 |
Chair Berger |
Closes the work session on introduction of committee bills and opens a public hearing on HB 2253. |
HB 2253 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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047 |
Caralyn Fischer |
Committee Administrator. Explains what HB 2253 does. |
050 |
Harrison Connelly |
Deputy Legislative Counsel. Explains that “local government” is a defined term and HB 2253 will conform all references to local government. |
087 |
Chair Berger |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2253 and opens the work session on HB 2253. |
HB 2253 – WORK SESSION |
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082 |
Rep. Sumner |
MOTION: Moves HB 2253 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
083 |
Chair Berger |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
086 |
Chair Berger |
Closes the work session on HB 2253 and opens the public hearing and work session on HB 2259. |
HB 2259 – PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION |
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091 |
Doug McKean |
Deputy Legislative Counsel. Explains that HB 2259 corrects an error that occurred between the engrossing of the A-Engrossed version and the B-Engrossed version of HB 2241 (2003) removing language that should have been removed in the B-Engrossed version. |
126 |
Rep. Sumner |
MOTION: Moves HB 2259 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
128 |
Chair Berger |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
130 |
Rep. Esquivel |
MOTION: Moves HB 2259 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Esquivel |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
137 |
Chair Berger |
Closes the public hearing and work session on HB 2259 and opens the public hearing on HB 2157. |
HB 2157 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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131 |
Caralyn Fischer |
Committee Administrator. Reviews what HB 2157 does. |
154 |
Patricia Whitfield |
Section Director Oregon State Police (OSP) Identification Services Section. Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2157 (EXHIBIT A). Explains there are two purposes for the legislation and describes what Section 1 and Section 2 do. |
216 |
Chair Berger |
Asks would this put an umbrella over all the agencies and make a process where they can get these national background checks. |
240 |
Whitfield |
Answers yes. |
241 |
Chair Berger |
Asks does this statute mandate the background check. |
243 |
Whitfield |
Responds no, it would be up to the agency, through rule, to specify what would be subject to a background check. |
258 |
Rep. Cameron |
Notes that the Medical Board of Examiners stated that they cannot run background checks on doctors coming in. Asks would this allow them to. |
260 |
Whitfield |
Answers yes. Explains the process to incorporate language to read with this bill and adds that the language, as written, has been approved by the FBI. |
261 |
Rep. Cameron |
Asks what are the FBI rules that prevent getting permission from an applicant to do a background check. |
284 |
Whitfield |
Responds that Public Law 92544 allows for fingerprint background checks for non-criminal justice employment purposes. |
319 |
Larry Aab |
Director of Business Services for the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office. States that the bulk of requests for this type of information come through the sheriff’s office. Provides examples of the types of requests they get: tax collections, employees and vendors doing work for the county. |
361 |
Aab |
Comments favorably on the destruction of fingerprint cards and the enabling process to identify who would fall under this statute. |
373 |
Rep. Galizio |
Asks if the civil liberties groups were involved in this bill. |
400 |
Chair Berger |
States that one of those groups will be addressing the committee. Asks how this bill would change the process in place now. |
416 |
Aab |
Responds that under the current draft they would seek an ordinance from the county commissioners. Adds it would not be for every employee but it would include those who work in a high level of trust, those who work with children, the elderly, the disabled and those in high fiduciary responsibilities. |
442 |
Chair Berger |
Confirms that this would require a defined set of criteria. |
443 |
Aab |
Answers affirmatively. |
444 |
Rep. Sumner |
Asks would this be retroactive to current employees or only for new hires. |
453 |
Aab |
Speculates that if there was behavior that prompted it and the statute enabled them they may choose to use it, but otherwise it would be from this point forward. |
467 |
Rep. Witt |
Asks is it the intent to run a nationwide check on each person fingerprinted. |
474 |
Aab |
Answers yes if they fall under the enabling ordinance. |
476 |
Andrea Meyer |
Legislative Director, American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Provides a brief history on the use of fingerprinting in the use of background checks. |
TAPE 23, A |
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Aab |
Refers to the early 1990s regarding the finge printing of innocent people being sent off to the FBI and how that interferes with the ability of a person to move forward. Comments on safeguards such as the relationship of the facts and no permanent records on non-criminals. |
070 |
Meyer |
Refers to Section 2, line 33 the language “return or destroy.” Notes that anyone can get a criminal check on anyone without going through fingerprints or a national check. |
100 |
Meyer |
States support for the bill to the degree that it provides some cleanup. Expresses concern about safeguards and the oversight of agency rules. Expresses strong concern about Section 1 because there are no protections for the unintended consequences throughout a community. |
133 |
Rep. Witt |
Refers to page two, Section 2 lines 33 and 34 and asks how the state of Oregon can obligate the FBI to do anything. |
147 |
Meyer |
Answers they cannot. Reads line 35 and states they are working with the state police to ensure computer images of fingerprints are not maintained. |
167 |
Rep. Witt |
Asks if the FBI has an obligation to report to the state of Oregon a change in policy. |
168 |
Meyer |
Answers that is uncertain. |
170 |
Rep. Buckley |
Refers to Section 7 page three and asks if this would cover only state agencies and not local government. |
188 |
Meyer |
Answers that she believes cities and local entities are not covered by this. Discusses that in reference to rules changing the “may” to “shall” and that the list be included. |
217 |
Rep. Galizio |
Asks if there is any way to provide language that defines “public trust” or “sensitive information.” Expresses concern about leaving this to the agencies. |
246 |
Whitfield |
Refers to Section 1 and Section 2 not having the same requirements. Suggests asking how the cities or counties would address safeguards. Adds that “may” will be changed to “shall” and there are minimums for the agency to use in their determinations. |
289 |
Chair Berger |
Confirms that Section 7 concerns only agencies and not local government agencies. States that as currently written the Section 7 protection does not include local governments. |
332 |
Whitfield |
Answers it is hopeful that amendments will address that. |
317 |
Rep. Buckley |
Refers to the appeals process and asks are there consistent appeal processes on the local level. |
360 |
Whitfield |
Answers that this also will be addressed in the amendments. |
380 |
Rep. Buckley |
As currently drafted is there anything requiring a report back to the legislature to see how the process is working. |
382 |
Whitfield |
Answers that she is unaware of anything in place but is open to it. |
391 |
Chair Berger |
Notes for the record that the Department of Administrative Services (DAS) has provided written testimony in support of HB 2157 (EXHIBIT D). Closes the public hearing on HB 2157 and adjourns the meeting at 9:27 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
D. HB 2157, prepared testimony, Department of Administrative Services, 2 pp