HOUSE COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT

 

March 29, 2005   Hearing Room B

8:30 A.M. Tapes  32 - 33

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Vicki Berger, Chair

Rep. Peter Buckley, Vice-Chair

Rep. Mac Sumner Vice-Chair

Rep. Kevin Cameron

Rep. Sal Esquivel

Rep. Larry Galizio

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:             Rep. Brad Witt

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Caralyn Fischer, Committee Administrator

Jania Zeeb, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

                                                HB 3067 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2649 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2916 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2917 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2094 – Public Hearing

                                                HJR 16 – Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 32, A

003

Chair Berger

Calls the meeting to order at 8:36 a.m. and opens a public hearing on HB 3067.    

HB 3067 – PUBLIC HEARING

013

Rep. Deborah Boone

House District 32.  Summarizes HB 3067.  Comments on the importance of an animal control service.

041

Gorden Folts

Association of Oregon Counties.  Testifies in support of HB 2649.

045

Chair Berger

Closes the public hearing on HB 3067 and opens a public hearing on HB 2649.

HB 2649 – PUBLIC HEARING

054

Cara Fischer

Committee Administrator.  Summarizes HB 2649.

073

Rep. Barnhart

House District 11.  Discusses the proposed amendment (EXHIBIT A).  Discusses the benefits of HB 2649. 

116

Rep. Galizio

Observes that HB 2649 states that the posting can be done on an Internet web site, and coments that there are many web sites on the Internet.  Asks which web site they would post on.  Asks if there will be a problem with people setting up fake web sites with fake expenditures. 

146

Rep. Barnhart

Responds that there are always issues with web security.  States that most municipalities already have their own web site, so the information will be posted there.

157

Rep. Cameron

Inquires about what would be published in the newspaper. 

168

Rep. Barnhart

States that the intention is to have the address and phone number published. 

183

Chair Berger

Asks if in the amendments the telephone and address are published on the Internet and not in the newspaper.

189

Rep. Barnhart

Answers that he is not certain, but it is his intention to have the information included in the notice in the newspaper.

193

Rep. Esquivel

States that he supports HB 2649 and comments on what the bill does. 

214

Lori Sattenspiel

Government Relations, Oregon Community College Association (OCCA).  Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2649 (EXHIBIT B).

246

Lynda Warren

Dean of College Services, Rogue Community College.  Testifies in support of HB 2649.  Comments on the benefits of HB 2649.

281

Rep. Buckley

Inquires how long the budget information is posted on their web page.

284

Warren

Responds that the information is kept on the web page for three years.

286

Chair Berger

Asks if everything that is published is also posted. 

298

Warren

Answers by commenting on what is published and what is posted. 

299

Rep. Cameron

Clarifies that in the amendment it does state that the phone number and the address are posted in the newspaper, so all that needs to be added is the fax number.

308

LeRoy Yorgason

Executive Director, Oregon Newspaper Publishers Association.  Introduces Dave Weston.

320

Dave Weston

Polk County Itemizer-Observer.  Testifies in opposition to HB 2649.  Comments on the benefits of posting the budget information in the newspaper.   

417

Rep. Buckley

Inquires if there is a fact check done on the adds in the newspaper. 

425

Weston

Responds that they do not fact check the budget summaries.

TAPE 33, A

013

Rep. Galizo

Inquires if this is something that would be covered as a news story.

017

Weston

Responds that the entire process is covered, but the entire document is not printed in the news. 

034

Rep. Galizio

Inquires how much money would be lost by the papers as a result of this bill.

036

Weston

Estimates how much money would be lost by newspapers.

047

Rep. Galizio

Inquires what percentage of overall ad revenue that a newspaper receives would be affected.

050

Weston

Responds that it is a small percentage.

054

Yorgason

Executive Director, Oregon Newspaper Publishers Association.  Comments that they support the idea of putting information on the Internet.  Discusses the controls over the notices that are put in the newspapers and the need for it  to be verifiable that the ad was on the Internet by a certain time.

150

David Barenberg

League of Oregon Cities.  Submits and presents prepared testimony in support of HB 2649 (EXHIBIT D).  Testifies in support of HB 2649.

182

Bill Penhollow

Association of Oregon Counties.  Testifies in support of HB 2649 as amended.

214

Rep. Galizio

Inquires about the people who prefer print, or are not Internet savvy. 

219

Barenberger

Responds that they will publish the street address to make the information available to everyone. 

227

Penhollow

Answers that with inquiry the individual can be directed to different people to get the information they desire.  Lists places information is available.  Discusses the advantage is that there is other valuable information on the Internet.

248

Rep. Sumner

Asks if it is true that HB 2649 allows the organizations to post the budget information on the Internet, it does not mandate it.

259

Penhollow

Concurs. 

259

Chair Berger

Inquires if there are counties that do not have the capability to post on the internet.

264

Penhollow

Responds that there are some counties without web sites, but they are working with those counties to get them web pages. 

276

Chair Berger

Comments that there is a cost of Internet posting as well as a cost to newspaper posting. 

286

Penhollow

Concurs. 

291

Barenberg

Responds that the communities can choose to post as they always have.

295

Rep. Esquivel

Comments that this bill brings choice.  Talks about the diversity of the state.  Gives the example of microfilm backup.  Comments that this is an opportunity and choice, it is not mandated. 

339

John Phillips

Department of Revenue.  Submits prepared testimony (EXHIBIT E).  Asks the committee to consider two points of clarification for the bill.

The following material is submitted for the record without public testimony

 

Jeb Bladine

Submits an e-mail in opposition to HB 2649 (EXHIBIT C).

394

Chair Berger

Closes the public hearing on HB 2649 and opens a public hearing on HB 2916.

HB 2916 – PUBLIC HEARING

409

Cara Fischer

Committee Administrator.  Summarizes HB 2916. 

TAPE 32, B

012

Nan Heim

Oregon Library Association.  Testifies in support of HB 2916.

056

B.J. Quinlan

Youth Services Manager, Salem Public Library.  Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2916 (EXHIBIT F).  Comments on the benefits of the Ready To Read program.  Testifies in support of HB 2916.

089

Jim Scheppke

State Librarian.  Testifies in support of HB 2916. 

100

Chair Berger

Inquires what are the controls on the Ready To Read money that insure that the money is used in a correct manner.

104

Scheppke

Explains the process for the grants. 

116

Rep. Buckley

Asks what the size of the grants are.

118

Scheppke

Answers by giving examples of grants from the past year.

The following material is submitted to the record without public testimony

 

Anne Billeter

Submits prepared testimony regarding the Ready To Read grants (EXHIBIT K).

 

Chair Berger

Closes the public hearing on HB 2916 and opens a public hearing on HB 2917.

HB 2917 – PUBLIC HEARING

137

Cara Fischer

Committee Administrator.  Summarizes HB 2917.

148

Rep. Esquivel

Comments on an aspect he thinks should be included in HB 2917.

160

Randall Edwards

Treasurer, Department of Treasury.  Submits binder of information on transferring Oregon’s unclaimed property program (EXHIBIT H) and reads prepared testimony in support of HB 2917 (EXHIBIT I)

246

Edwards

Adds that there are thousands of people with unclaimed property and continues to read prepared testimony.

284

Edwards

Comments on forthcoming amendments.

292

Chair Berger

Relates her experience with unclaimed property.  Asks what would have happened if she had not gotten the notice. 

318

Rep. Buckley

Inquires if there would be an addition of staff to his department.

323

Edwards

Responds that the 12 people who currently run the unclaimed property program would be moved to his office.  Discusses the advantages to the people that would be moved. 

335

Rep. Buckley

Asks if there is any change in the collective bargaining agreement with the employees.

336

Edwards

Answers that there is not.

339

Rep. Buckley

Asks if there is any way for us to find the information on the Internet.

344

Edwards

Answers that you can find it on the Internet.  Talks about the process of finding the information in other states.

371

Ann Hanus

Director, Department of State Lands.  Introduces Cindy Wickham. Submits and presents prepared testimony in support of HB 2917 (EXHIBIT J).

TAPE 33, B

011

Hanus

Discusses the benefits of moving the program to the Department of Treasury. 

038

John Marshall

Oregon School Boards Association.  Comments on the benefits of the Common School Fund and the importance of the trust for that.  Discusses the benefits of HB 2917.  Testifies in support of HB 2917.

079

Jesse Cornett

Testifies in support of HB 2917.  Discusses the benefits of HB 2917. 

095

Chair Berger

Closes the public hearing on HB 2917 and opens a public hearing on HB 2094.

HB 2094 – PUBLIC HEARING

101

Chair Berger

Declares intent to carry the public hearing to Thursday March 31, 2005.

106

Chiar Berger

Closes the public hearing on HB 2094 and opens a work session on HJR 16.

HJR 16 – WORK SESSION

113

Cara Fischer

Committee Administrator.  Summarizes HJR 16.

112

Rep. Sumner

MOTION:  Moves HJR 16 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation.

120

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Witt

 

Chair Berger

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

REP. LIM will lead discussion on the floor.

127

Chair Berger

Closes the work session on HJR 16 and adjourns the meeting at 10:11 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. HB 2649, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  2. HB 2649, prepared testimony, Lynda Warren, 1 p
  3. HB 2649, prepared testimony, Jeb Bladine, 3 pp
  4. HB 2649, prepared testimony, David Barenberg, 5 pp
  5. HB 2649, informational material, John Phillips, 1 p
  6. HB 2916, prepared testimony, B.J. Quinlan, 2 pp
  7. HB 2916, prepared testimony, Jim Scheppke, 1 p
  8. HB 2917, informational material, Randall Edwards, 58 pp
  9. HB 2917, prepared testimony, Randall Edwards, 3 pp
  10. HB 2917, prepared testimony, Ann Hanus, 2 pp
  11. HB 2916, prepared testimony, Anne Billeter, 4 pp