HOUSE COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT
April 14, 2005 Hearing Room B
8:30 A.M. Tapes 40 - 41
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Vicki Berger, Chair
Rep. Peter Buckley, Vice-Chair
Rep. Mac Sumner Vice-Chair
Rep. Kevin Cameron
Rep. Sal Esquivel
Rep. Larry Galizio
Rep. Brad Witt
STAFF PRESENT: Caralyn Fischer, Committee Administrator
Jania Zeeb, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HJR 32 – Public Hearing
HB 3265 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 40, A |
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003 |
Chair Berger |
Calls the meeting to order at 8:34 a.m. and opens a public hearing on HJR 32. |
HJR 32 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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008 |
Rep. Brad Avakian |
House District 34. Testifies in support of HJR 32. Talks about the historical documents that are contained in the State Archives building. |
043 |
Rep. Cameron |
Comments on his tour of the State Archives building. |
055 |
Chair Berger |
States that she is a member of the Capitol Foundation. Comments on what she is envisioning the exhibit to be like. |
063 |
Rep. Avakian |
Responds that Chair Berger is describing the vision for the exhibit well. |
065 |
Rep. Buckley |
Comments that this is a fantastic idea. |
070 |
Dave Henderson |
Legislative Administrator. Comments that the Capitol Foundation has had discussions about having a historian in the capitol. States that HJR 32 would fit well with the mission of the foundation. |
081 |
Chair Berger |
Closes the public hearing on HJR 32 and opens a public hearing on HB 3265. |
HB 3265 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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085 |
Cara Fischer |
Committee Administrator. Summarizes HB 3265. |
110 |
Amanda Rich |
Special Districts Association of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 3265. Submits prepared testimony with informational material regarding HB 3265 (EXHIBIT A). |
179 |
Rich |
Gives the example of the Tualatin Valley Fire District. |
195 |
Rich |
Discusses the fees charged by the boundary commission. |
205 |
Rich |
Comments on the services from the Lane County Boundary Commission. Discusses why the special districts brought HB 3265 to the legislature. |
225 |
Rich |
Talks about the changes Tri-Met wants, and states that the Special Districts support those amendments. |
239 |
Rep. Galizio |
Asks about the policy implementation and comments on the language used. |
246 |
Rich |
Responds that language is understood in the context of the entire set of policies. Gives an example. |
260 |
Rep. Galizio |
Comments on the debate in his district. Asks if she is arguing that the status quo where there is no boundary commission is fine. |
270 |
Rich |
Responds that she does not think the status quo is working. Comments that she is a part of the group that is working on what is happening in Rep. Galizio’s district. |
286 |
Rep. Galizio |
Asks if in the Lane County area there have been difficult annexation issues. |
295 |
Rich |
Answers that she is not sure if you can draw that conclusion. States that they have run into opposition. |
313 |
Rep. Buckley |
Wants clarification on the process a district would have to go through. Asks if she can explain the hierarchy involved. |
325 |
Rich |
Answers that the process is complicated. Gives an example of Junction City. |
350 |
Rep. Buckley |
Inquires if there is a person from the League of Oregon Counties or from Lane County to testify on HB 3265. |
353 |
Chair Berger |
Responds that we do not, but states who is at the meeting to talk. Asks about the fees and if there are fees for both the boundary commission and the county. |
364 |
Rich |
Answers that there are fees from both from the boundary commission and the county. |
386 |
Rep. Debbie Farr |
House District 14. Testifies in opposition to HB 3265. States that she has concerns with the boundary commission, but that the commission should be allowed to deal with the problem on their own. |
420 |
Rep. Terry Beyer |
House District 12. Testifies in opposition to HB 3265. Comments on how this has effected her district. States that the commission serves its purpose and has helped in the community |
TAPE 41, A |
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013 |
Rep. Buckley |
Asks if she can briefly explain the benefits of the boundary commission. |
015 |
Rep. Beyer |
Answers that she cannot get into the details, but comments on her personal experience with the boundary commission. |
026 |
Rep. Paul Holvey |
House District 8. Testifies in opposition to HB 3265. Comments on the need for the boundary commission. Comments that the boundary commission is something that the people of the area want to have. |
070 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Asks who the commission is accountable to. |
074 |
Rep. Holvey |
Answers that they are accountable to the county, the city and the local people, but they are appointed by the governor. |
077 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Inquires if local people participate in the selection of the boundary council. |
080 |
Rep. Holvey |
Concurs. |
095 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Comments that he is trying to figure out how this works, because most counties do not use this system. |
100 |
Rep. Holvey |
Discusses the history of the boundary commission. |
114 |
Rep. Beyer |
States that she thinks the best person to answer these questions is the representative of the boundary commission. Comments on how the boundary commission members are chosen. |
125 |
Chair Berger |
Comments on how the Salem Keizer area is handling these kinds of issues without a commission. |
138 |
Rep. Holvey |
Acknowledges that there is more than one way to handle these issues. |
152 |
Paula Taylor |
Executive Officer, Lane County Boundary Commission. Discusses the commission, and how the fees are determined. States that the county does not collect any fees, and is not involved unless it is a major boundary change. Submits a letter for the Hazedell Rural Fire District in opposition to HB 3265 (EXHIBIT C). |
248 |
Taylor |
Comments on the example Ms. Rich gave of the people in the park district and how she has been involved in the process. |
274 |
Taylor |
Talks about how the boundary commission reviews proposals. |
281 |
Taylor |
Gives information on what the boundary commission determined in the Springfield fire district annexation. |
293 |
Rep. Buckley |
Asks who is responsible for the development of this comprehensive plan. |
295 |
Taylor |
Responds that the plan was developed and adopted by Lane County, the City of Eugene, and the City of Springfield; it is also acknowledged by the State of Oregon. |
300 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Inquires about the smaller communities in the area. |
308 |
Taylor |
Explains that each city has its own comprehensive plan. |
330 |
Taylor |
The boundary commission acknowledges that things have changes and that the administrative rules might need some review. |
339 |
Taylor |
Explains how the process of formation works in Lane County and how the boundary commission is a part of that process. |
392 |
Taylor |
Comments that the boundry commission has not taken a position on HB 3265. |
398 |
Rep. Buckley |
Inquires if there is an appeals processes. |
403 |
Taylor |
Responds that the decisions are appealed to the court of appeals. |
406 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Asks if the municipalities determines their urban growth district (UGB) or if the boundary commission determine it. |
410 |
Taylor |
Answers that the boundary commission has no authority over UGB establishment, discusses the way the boundary commission deals with the UGB. |
TAPE 40, B |
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008 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Inquires if with annexations this goes through the boundary commission and then goes to the city for a vote. |
011 |
Taylor |
Explains the annexation process, and discusses the cities role and the boundary commissions role. |
023 |
Chair Berger |
Asks about assessments. Inquires if Ms. Taylor is paid, and how many people work for the boundary commission. |
033 |
Taylor |
Answers that the boundary commission is a state agency, and gives information of who they contract with for their services. States that there is only one staff. |
049 |
Chair Berger |
Inquires if the commissioners are paid. |
050 |
Taylor |
Responds that they are not. Gives information about the budget. |
066 |
Chair Berger |
Asks what the approximate yearly budget is and if the income is derived from assessments and fees. |
067 |
Taylor |
Answers that the budget is around $100,000 and about 60 percent of the budget is from assessments, 40 percent is from fees. |
070 |
Rep. Sumner |
Asks if she believes that she could do the job she is doing, with the same level of quality, if she was a county employee. |
077 |
Taylor |
Responds that it would be difficult to provide the same level of service through the county structure with its financial difficulties. |
093 |
Jason Heuser |
City of Eugene. Submits prepared testimony in opposition to HB 3265 (EXHIBIT B). States that the City of Eugene has gotten good service from the boundary commission. Comments on a study by Congress on boundary commissions. |
139 |
Chair Berger |
Comments on a bill regarding a library district in Lane County |
149 |
Kurt Yeiter |
City of the Eugene. Testifies in opposition to HB 3265. Comments on the good service from the boundary commission. Discusses the case regarding the Springfield fire district and how the boundary commission provides a neutral forum for discussions. |
197 |
Yeiter |
Comments on special districts. |
205 |
Yeiter |
Discusses the part in the bill that would send some of the documents to the State Archives building and the impact that has on the City of Eugene. |
217 |
Chair Berger |
Asks if that information is provided by the Lane Council of Governments. |
219 |
Taylor |
Answers that it is not. |
202 |
Chair Berger |
Asks if the boundary commission keeps all public records. |
223 |
Taylor |
Comments on the information that is kept by the boundary commission. |
233 |
Chair Berger |
Inquires if the county is responsible for keeping track of boundary lines inside the county. |
237 |
Taylor |
Concurs. |
241 |
Yeither |
Comments on the process for annexation. |
251 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Asks if the commission allows multiple annexation to property owners for one fee. |
256 |
Yeiter |
Responds that the city charges one fee per annexation. |
260 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Asks if they have to pay two fees. |
261 |
Yeiter |
Concurs. |
263 |
Rep. Buckley |
Asks in the case of conflicting comprehensive plans who is responsible to work out the conflicts. |
266 |
Taylor |
Responds that she is trying to think of when they have had conflicting plans. Gives an example of the Lane Library special district. |
270 |
Rep. Buckley |
Inquires if they have encountered that situation. |
280 |
Taylor |
Concurs. |
284 |
Rep. Sumner |
Inquires if the Boundary Commission has an active role in determination of pubic policy. |
292 |
Yeiter |
Responds by discussing the role of the Boundary Commission in public policy. |
310 |
Fischer |
Questions impact of property tax compression on local school districts. |
320 |
Yeiter |
Answers that he might have misspoken, and it is a special levy for after-school programs that was referred to. |
The following material is submitted for the record without public testimony. |
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Joan Lowe |
McKenzie Fire and Rescue. Submits prepared testimony in opposition to HB 3265 (EXHIBIT D). |
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Nam Heim |
Tri-Met. Submits prepared testimony regarding HB 3265 (EXHIBIT E). |
329 |
Chair Berger |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3265 and adjourns the meeting at 11:06 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY