HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
INFORMATION MANAGEMENT AND TECHNOLOGY
February 1, 2005 Hearing Room 357
1:00 PM Tapes 9 - 10
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. John Dallum, Chair
Rep. Jerry Krummel, Vice-Chair
Rep. Kelley Wirth, Vice-Chair
Rep. Chuck Burley
Rep. Arnie Roblan
STAFF PRESENT: Dallas Weyand, Committee Administrator
Louann Rahmig, Committee Assistant
ISSUES HEARD AND WITNESSES:
Public Hearing
Consolidation of State Computing and Networking Infrastructure
Mike Freese, Department of Administrative Services (DAS)
Jessica Stevens, Oregon Public Employees Union (SEIU)
Dennis Green, Employment Department
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 9, A |
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004 |
Chair Dallum |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:03 PM and opens the public hearing. |
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Consolidation of State Computing and Networking Infrastructure - PUBLIC HEARING |
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015 |
Mike Freese |
Deputy Chief Information Officer, DAS. Presents Computing and Networking Infrastructure Consolidation (CNIC) project update (EXHIBIT A). Lists primary objectives of the project, and explains the “shared services” model. |
068 |
Freese |
Continues with an explanation of the governing board and its responsibilities. |
075 |
Freese |
Cites the participating agencies and business case key findings. |
113 |
Freese |
States that consolidation should correct deficiencies and mitigate risk. |
137 |
Freese |
Explains that the Governor accepted the governing board’s recommendation to proceed but asked for a more aggressive plan to achieve maximize savings. |
163 |
Freese |
Points out that the project is in the architectural design phase now. Discusses the detail design phase and agency implementation plan. |
200 |
Freese |
Reiterates that the “shared services” concept is new for Oregon state government, and there are staff concerns about loss of direct control. |
220 |
Freese |
Comments that the current infrastructure is unsustainable and needs to be replaced. |
237 |
Freese |
Concludes that clear and consistent leadership is the key to being successful. |
251 |
Rep. Wirth |
Asks about the percent of savings due to reduction of fulltime equivalencies due to consolidation. |
260 |
Freese |
Replies that an estimated 70 percent saving in personnel costs is expected. |
273 |
Chair Dallum |
Requests a more detailed plan and flow chart for implementation. |
284 |
Freese |
Responds that a detailed plan is available on the internet. |
295 |
Rep. Krummel |
Requests a further presentation from the project manager. |
330 |
Chair Dallum |
Requests a paper copy of the plan and copies for Rep. Burley and Rep. Wirth. |
341 |
Jessica Stevens |
Organizer for SEIU Local 503. Indicates that concerns stem from lack of information. Refers to establishment of work groups to address employee issues. |
350 |
Stevens |
States that there are questions about the contractor’s capabilities and reputation. |
395 |
Stevens |
Continues with questions about the physical structure of the data center and the number of employees needed to maintain the new system. |
406 |
Stevens |
Raises concerns about which workers will be affected and accomplishment of agency day–to-day business. |
TAPE 10, A |
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035 |
Stevens |
Concludes with concerns about the lack of participation by information technology staff. |
043 |
Dennis Green |
Assistant Internet Administrator, Employment Department, representing SEIU. Expresses concern about the lack of a solid business case at this time. |
074 |
Green |
Emphasizes the need for answers on specific positions affected so the appropriate tools are provided to train those people. |
113 |
Rep. Wirth |
Asks what kind of training could be provided now for a quick response team. |
127 |
Green |
Responds that contact has been made with the dislocated worker program for available funds for training and retraining. |
146 |
Rep. Wirth |
Inquires if there is agreement on the figures presented regarding reduction of personnel . |
152 |
Green |
Replies that an attrition report identifies the number of anticipated retirements in the next one to five years. Raises the question if the same cost savings can be realized through attrition versus lay-off. |
169 |
Rep. Wirth |
Requests clarification on how better services at lower cost can be accomplished. |
184 |
Green |
Responds that those numbers are not available. |
193 |
Stevens |
States that it is unknown at this time which workers will be laid off, so there is a need to work with management to figure out the needs and develop a plan. |
207 |
Rep. Krummel |
Asks when the information sharing group will meet. |
211 |
Green |
Explains that there are two committees being formed: a conglomerate of technical work groups specializing in architecture networking and a peer communications work group. |
249 |
Rep. Burley |
Expresses concern about the business plan. Asks if it will address specific concerns. |
256 |
Green |
Replies that the business plan gives a complete picture of what will happen; however, the scope is a moving target. |
297 |
Rep. Roblan |
Follows up on Rep. Burley’s question. Asks if there is an opportunity for the work groups to provide input into the business plan. |
305 |
Green |
Responds that the technical work groups will be focused on their facet of the project so don’t know if that will help with the business plan. |
313 |
Rep. Wirth |
Asks if the estimated $5 million annual cost savings and the one-time investment of $20-25 million for the project have changed. |
334 |
Green |
Explains that $20 million was approved by the Emergency Board for construction of the facility and $5 million for security. Says they have not seen specifics for the anticipated $5 million savings. |
349 |
Rep. Wirth |
Requests clarification, that different numbers have not been provided. |
350 |
Green |
Responds, that is correct. |
351 |
Rep. Roblan |
Asks if the COBOL people can get the necessary training and if they have seen the charts that explain the shifts and needed skills. |
370 |
Green |
Explains that they have seen what kind of functions will be needed in the data center but haven’t seen details. |
387 |
Rep. Roblan |
Comments that the charts don’t contain numbers. |
393 |
Rep. Krummel |
Raises question about comments that Accenture has never done this type of contract before, and is curious about concerns about combining many different systems into one center. |
TAPE 9, B |
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014 |
Freese |
Believes the issues raised have been answered, and a legislative briefing will soon be available to the members. Reports that Accenture has performed projects as complicated as this one. |
045 |
Freese |
Explains the vendor solicitation process. |
056 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks why the detailed implementation plan and final business case have not been completed. |
067 |
Freese |
Responds that the original plan was completed, but the governor requested acceleration so a revised timeline was prepared. |
087 |
Rep. Wirth |
Asks if applications experts are in-house experts, vendor experts, or a combination. |
097 |
Freese |
Replies, a combination. |
110 |
Chair Dallum |
Closes the public hearing and adjourns the meeting at 2:05 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY