HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

INFORMATION MANAGEMENT AND TECHNOLOGY

 

 

February 8, 2005   Hearing Room 357

1:00 P.M. Tapes  13 - 14

 

MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. John Dallum, Chair

                                          Rep. Jerry Krummel, Vice-Chair

                                          Rep. Chuck Burley

                                          Rep. Brad Witt

 

MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Kelley Wirth, Vice-Chair

 

STAFF PRESENT: Dallas Weyand, Committee Administrator

                                          Louann Rahmig, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

State Geographic Information System Initiatives – Informational Meeting

          

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 13, A

004

Chair Dallum

Calls the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m.  Welcomes new committee member Rep. Witt.

005

Rep. Brad Witt

House District 31.  Introduces himself and provides background.

028

Chair Dallum

Advises Rep. Wirth is excused and opens the informational meeting on state geographic information system initiatives.

STATE GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM INITIATIVES - INFORMATIONAL MEETING

031

Don Fleming

State Chief Information Officer, DAS.  Introduces the Geographic Information Systems (GIS) overview.

039

Cy Smith

Distributes a hard copy of the GIS PowerPoint presentation and describes the need for the project (EXHIBIT A).

081

Smith

Explains that Phase I of GIS required collaboration of many jurisdictions to acquire information.

101

Chair Dallum

Asks who has been involved.

103

Smith

Responds that local and county governments, surveyors, and state and federal agencies have voluntarily contributed to this point.

121

Smith

Explains that the groundwork has been laid for Phase II, which is about data and needed capabilities.

156

Rep. Krummel

Asks for clarification that some counties do not have GIS mapping capabilities within their boundaries.

170

Smith

Replies, that is exactly right. 

 

176

 

Smith

 

Advises that a group was formed to identify the types of data needed and to develop national standards. 

190

Rep. Krummel

Inquires if we could already have a statewide system using the national standards.

196

Smith

Answers, no.  Indicates the seven national standards have been adopted, but Oregon standards are also needed.

206

Fleming

Points out that Phase I is the information technology part of this project, and Phase II creates the data and puts capabilities in place.  Explains that Phase II is about a business model, funding and ownership. 

235

Rep. Krummel

Comments that the Oregon standards look like a subset of the national standards.  Expresses concern about “reinventing the wheel.”   

253

Smith

Advises that Oregon is trying to adopt the national standards and only building Oregon standards when national standards do not exist.

275

Chair Dallum

Asks if the metropolitan areas have a complete integrated system.

281

Smith

Replies, some areas do, such as Portland, Lane County, Marion County, and the Bend/Deschutes area. 

292

Chair Dallum

Inquires if all levels of government are represented in those areas that are integrated.

296

Smith

Replies, probably not.   

304

Smith

Continues, using an animated example on how to get an ambulance to the correct address. 

361

Smith

Discusses how collaborative mapping was done during the 2002 Sheldon Ridge fire in Wasco County.

TAPE 14, A

030

Chair Dallum

Comments on personal experience with the Sheldon Ridge fire.    

062

Smith

Reiterates that GIS data comes from a variety of sources, and the groundwork has been laid for data sharing.

071

Smith

Outlines that the several layers of government involved cause difficulties to overcome.

091

Rep. Krummel

Points out that special districts and water suppliers may be involved as well. 

111

Smith

Indicates that governance is a key difficulty to be addressed.

122

Smith

Advises that the existing Oregon Geographic Information Council has served a vital role in coordination.

134

Smith

Comments that moving from Phase I to Phase II is not a technology issue.

141

Fleming

Interjects that without business ownership from all levels of government working together, the project will not be successful. 

183

Dallas Weyand

Committee Administrator.  Reports that the Department of Revenue is responsible for Oregon Mapping System.  Asks how closely DAS is working with the Department of Revenue. 

206

Smith

Replies, working very closely with that program.  Explains that each layer of map data has a committee working to develop or adopt a standard.  

229

Smith

Discusses the action plan for Phase II implementation. 

279

Smith

Stresses that technology and training will be part of the implementation plan.

292

Fleming

Discusses the problems of creating the capabilities and keeping the data current with coordinated updates. 

313

Smith

Concludes, leadership, funding and control are key. 

332

Fleming

Comments that similar governance and funding problems exist in other projects.

352

Rep. Burley

Agrees that problems are nontechnical.  Shares that it is extremely costly to capture and digitize data, so setting standards is critical. 

376

Rep. Burley

Expresses concern with security to protect the investment.  Offers that Native American cultural sites need to be included in GIS.

390

Fleming

States that other initiatives are under way to improve cyber security capabilities in the state. 

410

Fleming

Requests an opportunity to return with additional information. 

TAPE 13, B

003

Chair Dallum

Requests clarification that there is no one place in the state that “puts it all together.”

006

Smith

Replies, that is correct.    

011

Chair Dallum

Suggests that this committee could be a catalyst for at least a pilot project.  Asks if there are any other models that have formed a group of government agencies from all levels.

016

Smith

Answers, yes.  Advises that:  Virginia has models around transportation and aerial imagery; North Carolina is proposing something similar to GIS; New Jersey; New York City has a GIS utility that is similar. 

024

Chair Dallum

Requests information on those models for the committee’s review.

030

Rep. Witt

Comments on the importance of this data.  Cites personal experience with studies of landslides. 

085

Chair Dallum

States that this committee is interested in providing information statewide.  Asks if any legislation is needed.

097

Smith

Replies, not at this time, but may need assistance when the business case is completed.

103

Chair Dallum

Requests that this project be expedited.

109

Chair Dallum

Closes the informational meeting on state geographic information system initiatives and adjourns the meeting at 2:05 p.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. Geographic Information Systems PowerPoint, presentation, Cy Smith, 28 pp