HOUSE COMMITTEE ON LAND USE
June 06, 2005 Hearing Room 50
1:30 P.M. Tapes 117 - 118
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Bill Garrard, Chair
Rep. Gordon Anderson, Vice-Chair
Rep. Mitch Greenlick, Vice-Chair
Rep. Robert Ackerman
Rep. Mary Nolan
Rep. Patti Smith
Rep. Mac Sumner
STAFF PRESENT: Sam Litke, Committee Administrator
Lindsay Luckey, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 3120 – Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 117, A |
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002 |
Chair Garrard |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:34 p.m. and opens a work session on HB 3120 and announces that today and tomorrow will be the only time to submit amendments. |
HB 3120 – WORK SESSION |
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011 |
Rep. Ackerman |
Comments that there should be more time to submit amendments. |
020 |
Chair Garrard |
Makes comments and explains reasoning. |
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Rep. Ackerman |
Responds with possible amendments. |
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Chair Garrard |
Comments they will allow amendments for as long as they can. Announces -2 amendments (EXHIBIT A), -3 amendments (EXHIBIT C) and preliminary -4 amendments (EXHIBIT E). |
052 |
Bill Cross |
Oregon Landscaper Contractors Association. Explains the content of the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT A) is language from HB 2582 and explains reasoning for its inclusion in HB 3120. |
070 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Sympathizes with the amendment but is cautious about adding this provision to an already complicated bill. |
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Chair Garrard |
Comments there may be other similar amendments. |
090 |
Don Schellenberg |
Oregon Farm Bureau. Submits proposed concept amendments for HB 3120 (EXHIBIT B). Discusses the tract of record provision, authority of state agencies to waive state statutes and compensation, all outlined in submitted testimony. |
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Chair Garrard |
Asks if he would consider a limitation on how many years a waiver would be transferable. |
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Schellenberg |
Responds that they did not put a limit on it. |
200 |
Rep. Anderson |
Asks if there was any consideration of parcels that might have pasture land and woodlot, where homes could be placed outside the farmable area and therefore allow more than one home per tract. |
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Schellenberg |
Reports that their amendments would include tract of record rather than a lot of record and explains the difference. |
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Rep. Anderson |
Asks if they discussed the placement of homes on a lot. |
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Schellenberg |
Responds negatively and adds it would be up to the homeowner where they wanted to place the dwelling. |
216 |
Rep. Anderson |
Makes suggestions for placement of lots. |
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Schellenberg |
Discusses placement of lots on farmland. |
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Rep. Sumner |
Verifies that if one accepts the right to build on a tract of record he then relinquishes the right to build on a lot of record. |
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Schellenberg |
Responds it would be true on high value farmland and elaborates. |
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Chair Garrard |
Asks Lane Shetterly for his recommendation on which areas of M37 to address and which to avoid. |
236 |
Lane Shetterly |
Director, Department of Land Conservation and Development (DLCD). Reports the issues of claims administration and judicial review are their highest priority. Acknowledges the policy decision made by the voters. Expresses support in revisiting issues of open spaces, farm and forest land protection. Notes the proponents of M37 have raised transferability as a key component and the department’s view that it is a practical matter that should be addressed. |
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Chair Garrard |
Asks Shetterly for his opinion on the claims process as laid out in SB 1037. |
325 |
Shetterly |
Responds it was pretty good and mentions technical, non-controversial issues to be addressed. |
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Rep. Greenlick |
Recaps three concepts Shetterly spoke about and expresses concern for having balance when interpreting M37. |
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Shetterly |
Comments on recognition of the balance and discusses issues of transferability and farmland protection. |
386 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Outlines balancing past and future injustices. Suggests a more generous interpretation for past injustices and a more narrow interpretation for the future and asks for Shetterly’s opinion. |
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Shetterly |
Responds it is a fair question of balance. |
TAPE 118, A |
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002 |
Shetterly |
Discusses addressing the impact of M37 in and around urban growth boundaries (UGB). |
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Chair Garrard |
Asks Shetterly if the department has any direction on the compensation issue. |
010 |
Shetterly |
Discusses difficulty in appropriating a revenue source but would support the establishment of a compensation fund. Comments on the magnitude of funds needed for claims. |
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Chair Garrard |
Commends Director Shetterly. |
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Shetterly |
States he will be a resource for the committee. |
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Chair Garrard |
Announces there are -3 amendments (EXHIBIT C) and -4 amendments which have not yet been received by the committee. |
048 |
Jon Chandler |
Oregon Homebuilders Association. Submits -3 amendments (EXHIBIT C) and a preliminary -3 amendment document (EXHIBIT D). Suggests waiting before discussing the amendments. |
066 |
Chandler |
Notes some changes in approach to M37 from the HB 3120 -1 amendments including provisions for lands inside the UGB and for lands on the UGB fringe area. Elaborates on concerns surrounding these issues. |
096 |
Chandler |
Describes a provision that would allow for interim discussion of these issues. Notes the absence of a compensation piece and gives reasons for the omission. |
124 |
Elon Hasson |
1000 Friends of Oregon. Reports that the -4 amendments are not ready yet. Introduces Micheal Collmeyer who will discuss their preliminary outline (EXHIBIT E). |
133 |
Mike Collmeyer |
1000 Friends of Oregon. Begins discussion of their principles towards M37 with the first principle of fairness. Asserts there should be a threshold established for the diminution of value before a M37 claim is triggered to allow for future planning. |
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Chair Garrard |
Asks for clarification of the document they are reviewing. |
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Collmeyer |
Reports it is what was turned into Legislative Counsel (LC). |
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Hasson |
Clarifies they are reviewing the correct document. |
198 |
Collmeyer |
Continues discussing the concept of establishing a threshold. Identifies compensation as a fair way to provide a remedy to restricted property owners. |
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Chair Garrard |
Asks if Collmeyer has a recommendation for a funding source for the compensation piece. |
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Collmeyer |
Responds that they are proposing making LC 3535 a part of HB 3120 which has a funding mechanism based on development rights assessment. Discusses proportionality of compensation to harm inflicted. |
226 |
Chair Garrard |
Requests Collmeyer wait until the -4 amendments are prepared and to give a more general summary. |
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Collmeyer |
Recaps provisions discussed and adds they will incorporate deed restriction provisions, and provisions which would identify a basis for protecting valuable resource land. Recommends waiver limitations on high value farmland and encourages a tract of record provision. |
265 |
Chair Garrard |
Comments on legislation acceptable to both sides. |
285 |
Collmeyer |
Continues discussion of a compensation source and Department of Administrative Services (DAS) rules for appraisals. |
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Hasson |
Adds that waivers would be transferable. |
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Chair Garrard |
Submits request to review poll done by the Oregon Business Alliance. |
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Lynn Lundquist |
Oregon Business Association. Reports that he will get the document to the committee members. |
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Ross Day |
Director of Legal Affairs, Oregonians in Actions. |
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Rep. Greenlick |
Asks Day about a compromise bill and his feelings about leaving M37 as written. |
365 |
Day |
Reports on his participation in court cases on this issue. Asserts his confidence in clarifying the issue of transferability in the courts. Comments on his interpretation of the voters’ intent. Recognizes the value of having a definitive answer on transferability. |
TAPE 117, B |
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Day |
Comments on the attorney general’s opinion and would support legislation to clarify the voters’ intent. |
014 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Notes that difference in opinion from claimants in M37 and the general voting public. |
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Day |
Reviews actions during the campaign and comments on voters’ intent. |
037 |
Rep. Nolan |
Asks for elaboration on his interpretation of the voters’ intent if it is not included in the written record. |
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Day |
Responds that it will depend on how the evidence in the record is weighed. Notes objection to the ballot title and campaign literature from the opposition. |
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Rep. Nolan |
Asks if there was anything in the record that suggests that in addition to the words of M37, other language would be needed to implement the measure and cites the claims process as an example of something to be clarified. |
070 |
Day |
Responds that they recognized that the legislature would probably adopt procedures but not a wholesale revision. |
091 |
Rep. Nolan |
Asks if he considers SB 1037 or other amendments to HB 3120 to be wholesale revisions of M37. |
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Day |
Makes comments on previous testimony and suggests addressing compensation with voluntary contributions. |
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Chair Garrard |
Closes the work session on HB 3120 and adjourns the meeting at 2:38 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY