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INFORMATIONAL MEETING--HWY. FUND PUBLIC HEARING HJR 4 PUBLIC HEARING HJR 5 |
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TAPES 64-65, A-B |
MARCH 3, 2005 1:00 PM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Rep. Tom Butler, Chair
Rep. Vicki Berger, Vice-Chair
Rep. Mark Hass, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist
Rep. Sal Esquivel
Rep. Larry Galizio
Rep. Betty Komp
Rep. Andy Olson
Rep. Chuck Riley
Witnesses Present: Bruce Warner, Oregon Dept. of Transportation
Doug Tindall, Oregon Dept. of Transportation
Staff Present: Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer
Mazen Malik, Economist
Kristi Bowman, Committee Assistant
TAPE 64, SIDE A
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Chair Butler |
Calls meeting to order at 1:03 p.m. |
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INFORMATIONAL MEETING – HIGHWAY FUND |
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Mazen Malik |
Slide Presentation: Highway Fund Overview |
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Malik |
Slide: What is the Highway Fund |
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Malik |
Slide: Brief History of Oregon Road User Taxes (2 slides) |
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Malik |
Slide: Constitutional Dedication |
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Malik |
Slide: Oregon Road User Taxation |
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167 |
Malik |
Slide: Legal Definition of the Highway Fund (2 slides) |
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231 |
Malik |
Slide: How Should Roads Be Financed |
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256 |
Malik |
Slide: Principles of Oregon Highway Finance (System) |
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Malik |
Slide: Oregon Road User Taxation (Tools) |
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Malik |
Slide: Registrations and Titles (Tools) - graph |
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Malik |
Slide: Oregon Road User Taxation (Tools) |
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Malik |
Slide: Motor Vehicle Fuel Tax Rates - graph |
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Malik |
Slide: Fuel Tax Revenue – graph |
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Malik |
Slide: Oregon Road User Taxation (Tools) |
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TAPE 65, SIDE A |
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Malik |
Slide: Why a Weight-Mile Tax “Tool” for Heavy Vehicles? |
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Malik |
Slide: Weight-Mile Tax Rates – graph |
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Malik |
Slide: In Lieu Taxes (Tools). Comments that the flat fee issue will be heard in May in the Oregon Supreme Court. |
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Malik |
Slide: Weight-Mile Tax Revenue – graph |
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Chair Butler |
Discussion with Malik regarding truck and train usage during the 1980’s. |
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Malik |
Slide: Oregon Constitution (Connection). This put the two components together—tools and systems. |
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Malik |
Slide: Oregon Constitution. Quoted is Article IX, Section 3A that requires the legislature to “provide for a biennial review” of highway revenue sources and their equity. This requirement was later clarified as stated in the next slide. |
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Malik |
Slide: Highway Cost Allocation Study (HCAS) statute language |
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Malik |
Slide: Basic Approach of Study |
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Malik |
Slide: State Imposed User Fees |
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Malik |
Slide: Summary |
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Rep. Berger |
Asks what year the voter initiative removed police and other non-highway factors from the highway fund. |
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Malik |
Responds the highway fund was established in 1989. The removal of the police was in either 1983 or 1984. Parks were removed in 1988. |
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Rep. Olson |
Comments that the state police were taken off the highway fund in 1981. |
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Bruce Warner |
Gives update on Oregon Transportation Investment Act (OTIA). Discusses written informational handout (Exhibit 2). |
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Bruce Warner |
Gives background information about OTIA I and II. Discusses the future of the OTIA program.
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Bruce Warner |
Discusses the successes of the three phases of the OTIA program. |
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Rep. Komp |
Clarifies term “delivery methods” as engineer designs. Asks if ODOT uses Oregon firms or is it outsourced. |
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Bruce Warner |
Responds that Oregon firms are being used whenever possible, along with women and minority firms. |
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Doug Tindall |
Submits written informational testimony on the implementation of the Oregon Transportation Investment Act (Exhibit 3). Discusses projects in OTIA I and II.
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TAPE 64, SIDE B |
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Tindall |
Discusses OTIA III planned expenditures (p. 3 of exhibit). Discusses Oregon State University bridge study that caused ODOT to make repairs rather than replacements and saves money. |
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Tindall |
Refers to Attachment 3 in the exhibit that shows the stages of OTIA III projects. Refers to Attachment 4 in the exhibit that shows the OTIA III modernization programs. |
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Tindall |
Comments about successes: finishing projects ahead of schedule, reorganizing the highway division, and money is being put into the private sector at a record rate |
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Rep. Riley |
Asks how is using the private sector doing on public sector projects: is the quality of work equal to state employees, and engineering costs. |
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Tindall |
Responds that private contractors have done most construction work for several years. Adds that it is a good public value for the private sector to participate in engineering work. Regarding consultation, there are standards that both the public sector and private sector must meet. “Cheaper” is difficult to answer because there is an Infrastructure regarding the use of in-house public sector employees -–increased number of facilities, transportation costs, etc. Comments that it is difficult to compare consultant fees versus using public sector employees. |
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Bruce Warner |
Adds that public vs. private sector costs have just started being tracked and it is too early to have data. |
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Rep. Esquivel |
Asks about the extraordinary length of time on getting projects started (uses a southern Oregon highway project as an example). |
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Bruce Warner |
Responds that a bridge replacement is fairly straightforward; modernization projects such as those in southern Oregon take more time due to community involvement and federal funding requirements. The Dept. has instituted streamlining processes for permits to speed the timeline. |
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Rep. Hass |
Expresses concern about the heavy reliability on bonding. Asks if ODOT has information regarding the debt service on the bonds. |
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Bruce Warner |
Responds that long-term bonds are used when a capital investment is going to last longer than the term of the bonds. The bonds also help jump-start the economy and provide jobs. Long-term bonding is attractive when the “cost of borrowing” is at or below the rate of inflation. After 2009 the bonds will expire for the modernization program, and there will only be about $25 M available for statewide projects. |
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OPENS PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 5
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Malik |
Gives background of HJR 5 (Exhibit 4). The bill proposes a Constitutional change to allow revenue from taxes on motor vehicle fuel and ownership and operation of motor vehicles to be used for policing of highways. |
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Chair Butler |
Gives historical background of this HJR. Refers to map in attachment that Mr. Warner [and Mr. Tindall] provided (Exhibit 3). Provides anecdotal information regarding the status of bridge repairs on Hwy. 20. States that HJR language is flawed because it is not of short-term duration as originally requested and it needs amending. Proposes using highway funds to help police the areas where bridges are constructed. |
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Chair Butler |
States that he is hesitant about taking public testimony because of previous commitments with organizations and individuals opposed to HJR 5. |
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OPENS PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 4 |
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CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTIONS 4 and 5. |
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Chair Butler |
Adjourns meeting at 2:25 p.m. |
Tape Log Submitted by: |
Reviewed by: |
Kristi Bowman, Committee Assistant |
Kim Taylor James, Committee Coordinator |
Exhibit Summary: