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PUBLIC HEARING & WORK SESSION HB 2927, HJR 34 A, HB 3350 A, HB 3334 A PUBLIC HEARING HB 2964 WORK SESSION HB 2122, HB 3376, HB 3378 |
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TAPES 147-148-149 A-B, 150 A |
MAY 6, 2005 1:00 PM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Rep. Tom Butler, Chair
Rep. Vicki Berger, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist
Rep. Sal Esquivel
Rep. Larry Galizio
Rep. Betty Komp
Rep. Andy Olson
Rep. Chuck Riley
Member Excused: Rep. Mark Hass
Witnesses Present: John McDonald, Assn. of Oregon Conservation Districts
Larry Ojua, Soil & Water Conservation, Dept. of Agriculture
Rep. Brian Boquist, District 23
Paula Brown, Dept. of Veteran Affairs
Col. Mike Caldwell, Deputy Director, OR National Guard
Jacqueline Zimmer, Dept. of Aging & Disabilities
Amanda Rich, Oregon Recreation & Parks Assn.
Rep. Jeff Kropf, District 17
John Phillips, Dept. of Revenue (DOR)
Debra Buchanan, Dept. of Revenue (DOR)
Rep. Jerry Krummel, District 26
Rep. Chuck Burley, District 54
John Marshall, Oregon School Boards Assn.
Shari Anderson, Treasurer, Clackamas County
Rep. Tom Butler, District 60
Arthur Fish, Oregon Economic & Comm. Development Dept.
Doris Penwell, Assn. of Oregon Counties (AOC)
Brad Higbee, Renewable Northwest Project
Staff Present: Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer
Mazen Malik, Economist
Lizbeth Martin-Mahar, Economist
Steve Meyer, Economist
Mary Ayala, Economist
Kristi Bowman, Committee Assistant
TAPE 147, SIDE A
002 |
Chair Butler |
Calls meeting to order at 1:13 p.m. |
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OPENS PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 2927 |
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Mazen Malik |
Gives overview of HB 2927 (Exhibit 1). The bill allows the board of directors of soil and water conservation districts to issue general obligation bonds if the majority of electors in the district approve. |
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Chair Butler |
Asks how the districts have previously supported themselves without bonds. |
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Malik |
Responds that since they are organized districts, they have the ability to levy taxes. The bill defines the bond authority for conservation districts slightly differently than for other districts. |
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054 |
John McDonald |
Testifies in support of HB 2927 and submits written testimony (Exhibit 2). The bill has been reviewed by the House Agriculture Committee. The bill does not have an impact on state funds. Discusses the proposed bond process. Currently the conservation districts do not have the authority to issue bonds, according to Oregon Revised Statute (ORS) 568, and the State Attorney General assured the districts that they needed statute language to allow them to issue bonds. |
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Chair Butler |
Asks how conservation districts previously funded capital equipment. |
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McDonald |
Responds that funding was usually through grants, and only a few districts have vehicles or equipment. Most conservation districts are not capitalized. |
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087 |
Chair Butler |
Asks about the mechanics of the bond vote. |
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McDonald |
The bond would only be for certain capital expenditures, not for operating costs. Discussion with Chair Butler on bond issues. |
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Larry Ojua |
Testifies in support of HB 2927 bill because it provides enabling language in ORS 568 to request bonds for capital projects. |
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125 |
Rep. Boquist |
Discusses the information discussed on HB 2927 that was heard earlier this session in the Agriculture Committee. |
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135 |
Malik |
Clarifies that HB 2927 is enabling language for conservation district bonding authority that is currently in statute. |
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CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 2927 |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 2927 |
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136 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: MOVES HB 2927 A TO THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION. |
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138 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 2927 |
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OPENS PUBLIC HEARING FOR HJR 34 A |
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Malik |
Gives overview of HJR 34 (Exhibit 3). This bill proposes an amendment to the Oregon Constitution dedicating a portion of net proceeds of the State Lottery for Oregon veteran services. Discusses amendments HJR 34 A-8, HJR 34 A-9, and HJR 34 A-10 (Exhibits 4,5,6). Discusses the revenue impact statements for the bill and each amendment (Exhibits 7,8,9,10). |
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336 |
Rep. Boquist |
Testifies in support of HJR 34. Comments on the intent of HJR 34 and discusses various programs concerning veterans. Discusses amendment HJR 34 A-8 which fixes the language of the original bill to make it constitutional to change Lottery Fund allotments. Amendment HJR A-9 makes a referral to voters to replace the current funding stream of Lottery funds, and it has the operative language of amendment HJR A-8. Original intent of this amendment was to fund emergency loans and grants to National Guard and reserve soldiers. Discusses constitutional requirements of the legislation. All 36 Oregon counties are impacted by this bill. |
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TAPE 148, SIDE A |
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Paula Brown |
Comments that the current amount being distributed to most counties is a little over $10,000 per year. |
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Rep. Boquist |
Continues discussion of HJR 34. Amendment HJR 34 A-9 is the operative amendment. HJR 34 A-10 amendment is the “fiscal reality” and adds specific percentages to the bill. |
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Chair Butler |
Comments that in order to pass out this bill, amendments HJR 34 A-9 and HJR 34 A-10 would have to be adopted. Asks if there is still a portion of HJR 34 that has constitutional issues. |
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Rep. Boquist |
Responds that amendments HJR 34 A-9 and HJR 34 A-10 would satisfy all constitutionality issues, according to Legislative Counsel. |
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Rep. Berger |
Clarifies that the allocation would be a percentage that would hold and the numbers would be amended. Additional clarification by Chair Butler on this issue. |
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Brown |
Testifies in support of HJR 34 because it gives Oregonians an opportunity to vote to allocate lottery dollars for veteran’s benefits. It sends a clear message that Oregonians support their veterans and their families. |
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Rep. Berger |
Asks for definition of veterans for the purpose of HJR 34 and if the definition includes “honorable discharge.” |
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Rep. Boquist |
Responds that the definition of a veteran in Oregon is an individual who has served in military service for 178 days or more. Discusses exceptions to that definition. The definition includes all legal categories of discharge, but does not include dishonorable discharge. |
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Rep. Galizio |
Asks about Rep. Boquist’s comment that the bill is a “pull program.” Comments that it sounds like the bill is a way for the veterans to navigate through the bureaucracy. |
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Rep. Boquist |
Discusses the responsibilities of veteran service officers and the various benefits that veterans are entitled to. |
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Rep. Riley |
Regarding the definition of veteran, clarifies service time of 178 days and not having to serve outside of U.S. |
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175 |
Rep. Boquist |
Gives the background of veteran service dates discussed in the House Veterans Committee. |
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Rep. Komp |
Adds that the county veteran service agents help veterans with many benefits, including employment opportunities. |
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200 |
Chair Butler |
Asks if veterans will be eligible for federal matching benefits even though the federal definition is different. |
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Rep. Boquist |
Responds that county veteran service agents would give the veteran the entire matrix of benefits available. The service agents match the veteran up with whatever benefit they would be entitled to. |
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Col. Mike Caldwell |
Testifies in support of HJR 34 which would give the people of Oregon the opportunity “to do the right thing.” |
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Jacqueline Zimmer |
Testifies in support of HJR 34. Submits written testimony (Exhibit 11). Comments that several veteran service officers are domiciled in many of her Agency’s buildings. Many times veterans do not know about federal benefits when they come in to the Agency for Aging & Disabilities unless they talk with a veteran service officer. This bill would help increase the staff for veterans service officers and cut down on their case loads. |
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Amanda Rich |
Testifies in opposition to HJR 34. However, the Oregon Recreation and Parks Dept. does support the amendments. |
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CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING FOR HJR 34 |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HJR 34 |
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316 |
Rep. Komp |
MOTION: MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE HJR 34 A-9 AMENDMENT. |
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSEN, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
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Rep. Komp |
MOTION: MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE HJR 34 A-10 AMENDMENT. |
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSEN, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR HJR 34 A |
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OPENS PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 3334 A |
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Rep. Jeff Kropf |
Testifies in support of HB 3334 A and submits written testimony (Exhibit 12) on the main points of bill. The bill proposes a $1000 property tax exemption for Oregon National Guard or reserve soldiers. “It is morally correct and is the right thing to do.” It does not have much of an impact on the local level. |
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Rep. Boquist |
Discusses HB 3334 A-2 amendment (Exhibit 13) that brings the bill in line with the 178-day requirement for Oregon veterans. The bill is designed for soldiers who are deployed currently and would benefit about 1000 soldiers from Oregon. |
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TAPE 147, SIDE B |
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Rep. Kropf |
Relates anecdotal story about a widow of a veteran who will benefit from this bill. |
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Caldwell |
Testifies in support of HB 3334 A because it would add a good deal of support for Oregon National Guard and reservists who are called to active duty. |
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John Phillips |
Comments that the Dept. of Revenue (DOR) is concerned about certain definitions in bill. Expresses concern that the language needs to be consistent for existing property tax exemption. Submits written testimony (Exhibit 18). |
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Rep. Boquist |
Comments that the language in the HB 3334-1 amendment is compatible with the bill. |
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CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 3334 A |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3334 A |
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087 |
Rep. Komp |
MOTION: MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE HB 3334 A-2 AMENDMENT.
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
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Chair Butler |
Calls AT EASE at 2:15 p.m. |
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106 |
Chair Butler |
Calls meeting to order at 2:17 p.m. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3334 A |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3378 |
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Lizbeth Martin-Mahar |
Gives overview of HB 3378 (Exhibit 19) which creates a new business tax credit for the costs incurred by the taxpayer for home purchases. Discusses amendment HB 3378-1 (Exhibit 20) which defines the eligibility of an employee as a first-time homeowner. First-time homebuyers represent 20% of total homebuyers according to 2002 American Housing Survey data. If every eligible employer contributed, there would be an impact of $23 M. |
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Rep. Jerry Krummel |
Discusses the HB 3378-1 amendment that he prepared. Suggests an amount of $60,000 to insert on line 7. The amendment addresses issues such as eligibility of employee, eligibility of family members in a business, and the discrimination issue of annual salary. The home must be owner-occupied and must be located in Oregon. Discusses additional issues of concern from the Dept. of Revenue: 1) dependent issue, 2) annual income limits pertaining to a one or two income family, 3) three-year residency requirement, 4) certification process, 5) tax assessment. Comments that this bill is good public policy. |
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Rep. Riley |
Asks Rep. Krummel if there is a sunset provision in this bill. Expresses concern about the state going through an employer for first-time homebuyer assistance instead of giving the assistance directly to the homebuyer. |
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Rep. Krummel |
Responds that there is no sunset date in the bill. Regarding the employer issue, the employer has already become a conduit for regulations and benefits such as health insurance. Providing homeowner assistance is a benefit that an employer can offer and can use as recruitment tool. It is optional program for an employer. |
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Chair Butler |
Comments that the Revenue Committee has seen many bills this session similar to this bill involving the Housing Authority. |
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Rep. Krummel |
Responds that the goal of HB 3378 is to increase home ownership. |
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Chair Butler |
Expresses concern about employer responsibilities in this program as well as the impact on the Dept. of Revenue (DOR). |
TAPE 148, SIDE B |
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Debra Buchanan |
Addresses concerns raised by Committee members:
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CLOSES WORK SESSION ON HOUSE BILL 3378 |
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Chair Butler |
Calls AT EASE at 2:42 p.m. |
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077 |
Chair Butler |
Calls meeting to order at 2:52 p.m. |
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OPENS PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 2964 |
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Rep. Chuck Burley |
Discusses HB 2964 and submits handout (Exhibit 21) on estimated calculations for different types of school districts. Discusses HB 2964-1 amendment (Exhibit 22) that removes all referrals to Urban Renewal Zones and changes exception value to growth value. |
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Chair Butler |
Discussion with Rep. Burley on his handout and the amendment. |
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Rep. Esquivel |
Asks why this program would be used with school districts with declining populations. |
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Rep. Burley |
Responds that there are some anomalies in the state, e.g., the Medford area, regarding increased population growth but declining school enrollment. Comments on options discussed by supporters to address this issue. |
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Rep. Esquivel |
Discussion with Rep. Burley on crafting a program that would address the needs of districts with increasing population and student enrollment. |
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Rep. Komp |
Discussion with Rep. Burley about revenue impacts for all districts. |
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251 |
Steve Meyer |
Discusses how the bill addresses growth figures and revenue impacts. Discusses changes to the School Equalization Formula (Exhibits 23 and 24). |
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Chair Butler |
Discusses issue that assessors don’t maintain tax rolls on properties that come from exception values. Discussion with Meyer and Rep. Burley on assessment issues and impacts on assessors. |
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John Marshall |
Testifies that he doesn’t want to undermine efforts to help districts with construction. Expresses concerns about: 1) the shift of property tax revenue, 2) the assumption that the greatest capital needs are in the high-growth districts, and 3) the timing of revenue expectations by districts. |
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Rep. Esquivel |
Discussion with Marshall about various voter responses to bond requests. |
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CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 2964 |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 2122 |
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TAPE 149, SIDE A |
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Mary Ayala |
Discusses HB 2122-1 amendment (Exhibit 25). Comments that there are still two blank sections in the bill where amounts will be inserted when the Dept. of Forestry has received its final May numbers. |
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Rep. Berger |
Clarifies that those numbers would be filled in by the budget process, not by the Committee. |
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Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE HB 2122-1 AMENDMENT. |
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
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Chair Butler |
REP. BOQUIST MOVES HB 2122 AS AMENDED TO THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION AND REQUESTS THAT THE BILL BE REFERRED TO THE HOUSE BUDGET COMMITTEE. |
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Rep. Boquist |
Comments that this bill came from the House Agriculture Committee, and the bill is friendly to all parties involved. |
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 2122 |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3376 |
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Paul Warner |
Gives background of bill and refers to the HB 3376-1 amendment (Exhibit 28). |
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Shari Anderson |
Testifies in support of the amendment for HB 3376 and submits written testimony (Exhibit 29). Discusses main points of amendment:
1) to collateralize county treasurers 102% of average daily balance; 2) an opt-out provision; 3) bank closure protections.
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Chair Butler |
Discussion with Anderson about the work group that collaborated on the drafting of the amendments. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3376
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OPENS PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 3350 |
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Rep. Tom Butler |
Testifies in support of HB 3350. This bill attempts to attract new business to Oregon and has no fiscal impact. Discusses program criteria. Refers to handout: Cities Impacted by Business Development Income Exemption (Exhibit 30). Discusses following issues with Rep. Berger:
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TAPE 150, SIDE A |
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Rep. Butler |
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Rep. Boquist |
Asks about the mechanics of the application process. |
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Rep. Butler |
Responds that businesses must re-apply every year in order to stay in the program. Discussion with Rep. Boquist on eligibility criteria. |
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Arthur Fish |
Testifies in support of HB 3350 and submits handout: Taxable Income Exemption (Exhibit 31). This bill will allow the state to provide a greater opportunity to attract new businesses. Supports amendment HB 3350 A-4. |
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Doris Penwell |
Discusses HB 3350 A-4 amendment (Exhibit 32). It is a housekeeping amendment. The bill was originally amended in the Trade and Economic Development Committee. |
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Brad Higbee |
Testifies in support of HB 3350. Discusses the background of Rural Renewable Energy Development Zones (RREDZs). The HB 3350 A-4 amendment addresses the concerns expressed by developers and counties. |
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CLOSES PUBLIC HEARING FOR HOUSE BILL 3350 |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3350 |
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Rep. Berger |
MOTION: MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE HB 3350 A-4 AMENDMENT. |
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
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Chair Butler |
REPRESENTATIVE RILEY MAKES A MOTION THAT HOUSE BILL 3350 A-4 MOVES TO THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH A DO-PASS RECOMMENDATION. |
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: HASS. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3350 |
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Chair Butler |
Adjourns meeting at 3:50 p.m. |
Tape Log Submitted by: |
Reviewed by: |
Kristi Bowman, Committee Assistant |
Kim Taylor James, Committee Coordinator |
Exhibit Summary: