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WORK SESSION SB 480 A, SB 896 A, SB 996 A, HB 3481 A |
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TAPES 192-193 A-B |
JUNE 14, 2005 1:00 PM STATE CAPITOL BUILDING
Members Present: Rep. Tom Butler, Chair
Rep. Vicki Berger, Vice-Chair
Rep. Mark Hass, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist
Rep. Sal Esquivel
Rep. Larry Galizio
Rep. Betty Komp
Rep. Andy Olson
Rep. Chuck Riley
Staff Present: Paul Warner, Legislative Revenue Officer
Lizbeth Martin-Mahar, Economist
Kristi Bowman, Committee Assistant
TAPE 192, SIDE A
002 |
Chair Butler |
Calls meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR SENATE BILL 996 A |
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018 |
Chair Butler |
MOTION: REP. BERGER MOVES THAT THE VOTE BY WHICH SB 996 A WAS PREVIOUSLY PASSED TO THE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS AS AMENDED RECOMMENDATION BE RECONSIDERED IN ORDER TO CONSIDER A CONFLICT AMENDMENT. |
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019 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 7-0-2. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: GALIZIO, HASS. |
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023 |
Paul Warner |
Discusses the conflict amendment SB 996 A-3 (Exhibit 1). It does not change any of the policy decisions made by the House Revenue Committee when the bill was heard on 06/01/05. |
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032 |
Chair Butler |
MOTION: REP. BOQUIST MOVES TO ADOPT THE SB 996 A-3 AMENDMENT. |
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035 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 7-0-2. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: GALIZIO, HASS. |
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036 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: MOVES SENATE BILL 996 A AS AMENDED TO THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION. |
041 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 7-0-2. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. EXCUSED: GALIZIO, HASS. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR SENATE BILL 996 A |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR SENATE BILL 480 A |
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053 |
Warner |
Discusses the changes incorporated in the SB 480 A-12 amendment. (Exhibit 2). The changes include:
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092 |
Chair Butler |
Discusses the definition of “listed transaction” with Warner. |
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100 |
Warner |
Continues summary of changes in the amendment. |
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124 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks about the intent of the change to the VCI. |
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125 |
Warner |
Responds that there was confusion between listed and reportable transactions and their respective “look-backs”. Continues summary of changes in the amendment. |
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155 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks how the California amnesty model affects the bill’s look-back for reportable transactions. |
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158 |
Warner |
Discusses the California look-back policy. |
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178 |
Rep. Komp |
Asks if the amount of years for a look-back is critical to the overall benefit of the amnesty program. |
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186 |
Warner |
Responds that there are trade-offs to the length of look-back. The further you go back, the more burdensome it is on taxpayers for recordkeeping. The SB 480 A-12 amendment shortens the 8 year time period to 6 years. |
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207 |
Warner |
Comments that the SB 480 A-12 amendment does not affect the revenue impact estimate from the SB 480 A-11 amendment (Exhibit 5 dated 05/31/05) |
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219 |
Rep. Galizio |
Asks about the proposed Dept. of Revenue Internet site for tax abusers. |
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230 |
Rep. Berger |
Responds that the Internet proposal was eliminated in the SB 480 A-12 amendment because all of the information is public information and is available already. Expresses concern that The “Wall of Shame” Internet site exposes the state to liability if the information is wrong. There is an easier way to get that information to those concerned. |
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244 |
Chair Butler |
Additional comments about the proposed website for tax abusers. |
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257 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: TO RESCIND THE SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL TO WAYS AND MEANS AND REQUEST A SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL TO HOUSE BUDGET. |
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265 |
Rep. Hass |
Asks about the intent of the referral of the bill to the House Budget Committee. |
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271 |
Chair Butler |
Responds that a discussion about the amount of penalties needs to be addressed in the Budget Committee. Discussion with Rep. Hass. |
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303 |
Rep. Boquist |
Asks about the fiscal impact. |
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304 |
Warner |
Responds that the fiscal impact is estimated @ $600,000 because of the elimination of the website. The fiscal impact has been coordinated with the Dept. of Revenue’s budget. |
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330 |
Chair Butler |
Asks for roll-call vote. |
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340 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THE MOTION HAVING RECEIVED THE REQUIRED MAJORITY IS DECLARED PASSED. VOTE: 6-3-0. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, KOMP, OLSON, BERGER, BUTLER. VOTING NO: GALIZIO, RILEY, HASS. |
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347 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE SB 480 A-12 AMENDMENT. |
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352 |
Rep. Berger |
Comments on her reason for not supporting the website. Supports the referral to the Budget Committee in order to have another group look at the bill. |
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368 |
Rep. Galizio |
Comments on the website issue. Acknowledges the additional costs to develop and maintain it and states that negative publicity is a strong motivator. |
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394 |
Chair Butler |
Asks for roll-call vote. |
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Chair Butler |
ORDER: THE MOTION HAVING RECEIVED THE REQUIRED MAJORITY IS DECLARED PASSED. VOTE: 6-3-0. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, KOMP, OLSON, BERGER, BUTLER. VOTING NO: GALIZIO, RILEY, HASS. |
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407 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: MOVES SB 480 A WITH A DO PASS AS AMENDED RECOMMENDATION, AND THE BILL BE REFERRED TO THE HOUSE BUDGET COMMITTEE. |
417 |
Chair Butler |
Asks for roll-call vote. |
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427 |
Chair Butler |
THE MOTION HAVING RECEIVED THE REQUIRED MAJORITY IS DECLARED PASSED. VOTE 7-2-0. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. VOTING NO: GALIZIO, HASS. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR SENATE BILL 480 A |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR SENATE BILL 896 A |
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TAPE 193, SIDE A |
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Lizbeth Martin-Mahar |
Gives overview of the SB 896 A-4 amendment (Exhibits 3 and 4). The amendment increases the tax credit to $5000 and establishes a sunset date of 01/01/13. |
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035 |
Chair Butler |
Comments that the amendment clarifies the definition of water vessel that is eligible for the tax credit. |
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047 |
Martin-Mahar |
Adds that the amendment does not have a significant revenue impact (Exhibit 5). |
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057 |
Chair Butler |
REP. RILEY MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE SB 896 A-4 AMENDMENT. |
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060 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 8-0-1. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, HASS, BUTLER. EXCUSED: ESQUIVEL. |
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063 |
Martin-Mahar |
Gives overview of the SB 896 A-5 amendment (Exhibits 6 and 7). In addition to the components of the SB 896 A-4 amendment, it includes a property tax exemption for newly acquired real or personal property. The company must pay taxes on the first $1 M and is exempt from taxes above that amount. The amendment establishes a sunset date. |
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086 |
Chair Butler |
Clarifies the property tax component in the amendment. Discussion with Martin-Mahar. |
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100 |
Rep. Riley |
Clarifies the definition of newly acquired or newly constructed property eligible for exemption. |
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108 |
Rep. Olson |
Asks why the exemption is not facilitated by a local agency instead of a state agency. |
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128 |
Rep. Berger |
Expresses similar concerns to Rep. Olson’s about the property tax exemption. |
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147 |
Rep. Esquivel |
Expresses concern about the two sunset clauses. In response to Rep. Olson and Rep. Berger, this bill is not designed for local control. |
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160 |
Chair Butler |
General comments about the revenue impact of increased assessed valuation of property. |
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179 |
Rep. Boquist |
Asks about the revenue impact statement (Exhibit 8) for the SB 896 A-5 amendment. |
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182 |
Martin-Mahar |
Explains the property tax component. Discussion with Rep. Boquist and Rep. Berger. |
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300 |
Chair Butler |
Comments on assessed value on vacant buildings. |
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370 |
Rep. Berger |
Expresses concern about the property tax component and its effect on small communities. |
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390 |
Chair Butler |
General comments about the SB 896 A-4 amendment. |
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421 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: MOVES SB 896 AS AMENDED TO THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH A DO-PASS RECOMMENDATION. |
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434 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. THE MOTION PASSES 9-0-0. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, HASS, BUTLER. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR SENATE BILL 896 A |
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OPENS WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3481 A |
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TAPE 192, SIDE B |
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Martin-Mahar |
Gives overview of HB 3481 A-6 amendment (Exhibit 9). The changes:
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Rep. Hass |
Discussion with Martin-Mahar on the tax credit reduction pertaining to research and development. |
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108 |
Martin-Mahar |
Comments that bill’s property tax exemption is designed to be used after the enterprise zone exemption is depleted. The company would need to get consent from the local government. |
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141 |
Chair Butler |
Asks about the wood chipper issue. |
146 |
Martin-Mahar |
Responds that Legislative Counsel advised that because of the relating clause in the bill regarding expansion of environmental improvements, the deletion of wood chippers from the bill cannot be done. |
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150 |
Rep. Berger |
Asks about the definition of biomass. |
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155 |
Martin-Mahar |
Responds that the definition is on pages 34 and 38 of the amendment. |
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174 |
Martin-Mahar |
Discusses the revenue impact statement (Exhibit 10) pertaining to the property tax exemption for biofuel production or fuel additive production facilities. |
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281 |
Rep. Hass |
Comments on the pollution control credits currently being claimed. Discussion with Martin-Mahar. |
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300 |
Chair Butler |
Comments on growth and expansion of the biofuel industry and the revenue impacts. General comments on the amendment. |
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357 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: MOVES THE ADOPTION OF THE HB 3481 A-6 AMENDMENT. |
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373 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THERE BEING NO OBJECTION, THE CHAIR SO ORDERS. MOTION PASSES 9-0-0. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, GALIZIO, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, HASS, BUTLER. |
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376 |
Rep. Berger |
MOTION: MOVES HB 3481 A AS AMENDED TO THE HOUSE FLOOR WITH A DO-PASS RECOMMENDATION. |
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383 |
Rep. Hass |
Discusses legislation in 2001 regarding the extension of the pollution control credit. To extend a credit that is not used by 70% of the industry “seems like the wrong way to go.” Expresses concern that the biodiesel component of this bill will “die” in the Senate. Would like to see an amendment that would allow the pollution control tax credit to expire but would keep the biodiesel incentives. |
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TAPE 193, SIDE B |
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Rep. Galizio |
Comments that he likes the original bill with the biodiesel component, but he does not support the extension of pollution control credit. |
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020 |
Chair Butler |
General comments about previous testimony on the bill. Expresses concern about the stricter DEQ standards used in Oregon instead of the Environmental Protection Agency standards used by other states.
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Rep. Olson |
Concurs with Rep. Hass’ comments and hopes for the best when the bill is heard in the Senate. |
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037 |
Rep. Riley |
Comments that “he would much rather have actual clean air than a clean air act.” |
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041 |
Rep. Boquist |
Concurs with Rep. Olson’s comments. Comments that the most important focus of the bill is the biofuel component. |
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053 |
Chair Butler |
Asks for roll-call vote. |
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059 |
Chair Butler |
ORDER: THE MOTION HAVING RECEIVED THE REQUIRED MAJORITY IS DECLARED PASSED. MOTION PASSES 7-2-0. VOTING AYE: BOQUIST, ESQUIVEL, KOMP, OLSON, RILEY, BERGER, BUTLER. VOTING NO: GALIZIO, HASS. REP. HASS SERVES NOTICE OF A POSSIBLE MINORITY REPORT. |
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CLOSES WORK SESSION FOR HOUSE BILL 3481 A |
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072 |
Chair Butler |
Adjourns meeting at 2:34 p.m. |
Tape Log Submitted by: |
Reviewed by: |
Kristi Bowman, Committee Assistant |
Kim Taylor James, Committee Coordinator |
Exhibit Summary: