HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
January 31, 2005 Hearing Room C
1:00 P.M. Tapes 8 - 9
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. George Gilman, Chair
Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. Chuck Burley, Vice-Chair
Rep. Deborah Boone
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Kim Thatcher
STAFF PRESENT: John Houser, Committee Administrator
Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Transportation Issues Overview – Informational Meeting
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 8, A |
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002 |
Chair Gilman |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:03 p.m. Opens an informational meeting on an overview of transportation issues. |
TRANSPORTATION ISSUES OVERVIEW – INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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008 |
Larry Campbell |
AAA of Oregon/Idaho. Gives the history of AAA. Introduces John Porter. |
018 |
John Porter |
President/CEO, AAA of Oregon/Idaho. Submits and summarizes prepared “Critical Issues Briefing” overview of AAA (EXHIBIT A, Page 2). |
050 |
Porter |
Explains Public Affairs Priorities (EXHIBIT A, Pages 2 & 3) and Current Issues in Transportation (EXHIBIT A, Page 4). |
077 |
Porter |
Discusses Transportation Finance Policy (EXHIBIT A, Page 5) and Cost Responsibility Study (EXHIBIT A, Pages 6 & 7). |
125 |
Porter |
Discusses Funding Oregon’s Highways (EXHIBIT A, Page 8) and Incremental Gasoline Taxes (EXHIBIT A, Page 9) |
170 |
Porter |
Discusses Weight Mile Tax System (EXHIBIT A, Page 10) |
188 |
Porter |
Discusses Bridge Deterioration (EXHIBIT A, Page 11). |
215 |
Porter |
Addresses the American Trucking Association vs. State of Oregon lawsuit (EXHIBIT A, Page 12). |
245 |
Porter |
Explains the Summary (EXHIBIT A, Page 13). |
243 |
Rep. Beyer |
Asks if the cost-allocation study refers to what has been spent or spending that is anticipated in the next biennium. |
250 |
Campbell |
Answers that the study has always been prospective. |
270 |
Jacqueline Zimmer |
Director, Oregon Association of Area Agencies on Aging and Disability. Submits prepared testimony regarding transportation and elderly and disabled in Oregon communities (EXHIBIT B). |
284 |
Olivia Clark |
Government Affairs Director, TriMet. Submits the prepared information, “Contributing to Independent & Productive Lives of Seniors & People with Disabilities” (EXHIBIT C). Displays a video for the committee showing transportation services for the elderly and disabled in Halfway and Baker City. |
TAPE 9, A |
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033 |
Zimmer |
Elaborates on the video and summarizes prepared information (EXHIBIT B). |
108 |
Carol Bro |
Director, Central Oregon Council on Aging, Deschutes County. Explains the importance of transportation in the lives of the elderly and disabled. |
140 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks about the actual and projected need for transportation services in Oregon and the gap in those services. |
149 |
Zimmer |
States that she can get the information for the committee. |
152 |
Clark |
Notes that the number of elderly and disabled will increase in the future and explains the efforts to extend the current services and meet the demand. Further summarizes prepared information (EXHIBIT C). |
200 |
Rex Burkholder |
Metro Councilor, District 5; Chair, Joint Policy Advisory Committee on Transportation (JPACT). Submits and summarizes prepared information (EXHIBIT D) including Metro Resolution No. 04-3498A addressing regional priorities for a state transportation funding package, Metro Council Legislative Priorities 2005 and begins PowerPoint presentation. |
364 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if Metro’s priority list of expenditures includes only handling and increasing transportation capacity. |
368 |
Burkholder |
Answers that most of the money is used for modernization and improvements to increase capacity. Continues the PowerPoint presentation. |
TAPE 8, B |
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026 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks for a clarification of Mr. Burkholder’s reference to women entering the workforce. |
033 |
Burkholder |
Explains the changing demographics and the number of vehicles on roadways. Concludes the presentation discussing funding and budgets. |
085 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks how road congestion is measured at different times of day. |
090 |
Burkholder |
Explains how congestion is measured and notes that the problems are largely during peak hours. |
103 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if Metro or JPACT has addressed Oregon Transportation Commission statewide significance projects. |
115 |
Burkholder |
Answers that they have addressed the projects in the Portland Metro area and addresses the related funding issues. |
134 |
Chair Gilman |
Asks about the commission’s approval of partnerships and tolls. |
137 |
Burkholder |
Explains the congestion relief study that was commissioned under a federal pilot program examining tolls. Notes that tolls are examined in all new road construction projects. |
180 |
Scott Bricker |
Director of Policy and Education, Bicycle Transportation Alliance; Willamette Pedestrian Coalition. Submits and summarizes prepared information, “The Role of Bicycling and Walking in Transportation.” (EXHIBIT E). |
395 |
Ken Armstrong |
Oregon Shortline Railroad Association. Introduces Larry Phipps and Dan Lovelady. |
415 |
Larry Phipps |
Portland and Western Railroad. Submits and begins summarizing prepared information on Oregon Short Line Railroads (EXHIBIT F). |
TAPE 9, B |
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025 |
Dan Lovelady |
General Manager, Central Oregon & Pacific Railroad. Submits prepared overview on the Central Oregon & Pacific Railroad (EXHIBIT G). |
120 |
Phipps |
Continues summarizing prepared information on Oregon Short Line Railroads (EXHIBIT F). |
197 |
Rep. Burley |
Explains the importance of railroads in central Oregon. Expresses interest in the use of 286 rail cars. |
206 |
Phipps |
Answers that they have been used since the mid-1990s on track that can accommodate them. |
214 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if reloads are necessary when the track cannot accommodate the 286s. |
216 |
Phipps |
Answers that shippers selling lumber on a 70-ton car can are competing with shippers that sell lumber on 286 cars, putting them at a disadvantage. |
220 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks how much it would cost to improve shortline railroads. |
225 |
Phipps |
Answers that Portland and Western Railroad spends about $4 million per year to maintain their railroads. Estimates that replacing lighter rail with heavier rail would cost approximately $200,000 per mile. |
248 |
Armstrong |
Notes that he can work with ODOT Rail Division to get more precise figures. |
255 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks if shortlines are privately-owned and if they are competing with truck haulers. |
266 |
Phipps |
Explains that Lake County and Wallowa Union are public railroads, but most are privately-owned railroads and explains that most freight rail contracts charge customers by the carload. |
282 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks for a comparison of Oregon’s investment in shortline railroads with other states. |
289 |
Phipps |
Estimates that it is an “order of magnitude 10-fold” with Washington state. |
300 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Clarifies that shortline customers are businesses. |
304 |
Chair Gilman |
Notes that committee will be meeting jointly with the Senate Committee on Transportation on freight rail transportation later today. Adjourns the meeting at 2:35 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY