HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
February 28, 2005 Hearing Room C
1:15 P.M. Tapes 16 – 17
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. George Gilman, Chair
Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. Chuck Burley, Vice-Chair
Rep. Deborah Boone
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Kim Thatcher
STAFF PRESENT: John Houser, Committee Administrator
Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2107 – Public Hearing
HB 2116 – Public Hearing and Work Session
Introduction of Committee Bills – Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 16, A |
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003 |
Chair Gilman |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:14 p.m. Opens a public hearing on HB 2107. |
HB 2107 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2107. |
025 |
Robin Freeman |
Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony including an overview of HB 2107 and amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
089 |
Tom McClellan |
Manager, Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV) Program Services. Explains section by section review of HB 2107 (EXHIBIT A, Page 4) |
122 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks why DMV would want to avoid behind-the-wheel testing of school bus drivers. |
125 |
McClelland |
Explains that the drivers who have already been tested would be required to pass a knowledge test. |
130 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks how the Department of Education requirements differ from DMV requirements. |
133 |
McClelland |
Answers they are essentially the same. |
135 |
Rep. Burley |
Clarifies testing. |
138 |
McClelland |
Explains testing. |
142 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks about requirements for behind-the-wheel test. |
148 |
McClelland |
Clarifies the behind-the-wheel requirements. |
153 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks about federal requirements. |
160 |
McClelland |
Answers the question. Continues the summary. |
224 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks how a driver’s record would be affected if he or she had a conviction before the bill took effect and received a conviction after the bill takes effect. |
231 |
McClelland |
Answers that only provisions regarding personal cars would take effect. |
233 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks for a clarification of provisions in the bill. |
239 |
McClelland |
Clarifies provisions in the bill and continues the summary. |
313 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Asks for the difference between Section 20 of HB 2107 which provides for an administrative hearing for Commercial Driver License (CDL) suspensions, and Subsection 8, which provide for an imminent hazard hearing. |
322 |
McClelland |
Explains the difference between the hearings. Continues the summary. |
398 |
Chair Gilman |
Asks about regulations. |
403 |
McClelland |
Clarifies the regulations. Continues the summary. |
TAPE 17, A |
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019 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Asks if the renewal procedure for hazardous material is annual. |
023 |
McClelland |
Answers that it will be every four years. |
028 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if a Driving Under the Influence (DUI) in a non-Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) two years ago would not count. |
044 |
McClelland |
Answers yes. |
046 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks for clarification of provisions |
054 |
Freeman |
Explains that a DUI in a personal car would not count toward license suspension. |
068 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks about the consistency of the legislation. |
070 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks why prior violations or convictions would be exempted. |
084 |
Freeman |
Answers that the convictions are not being exempted |
097 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks for further clarification. |
105 |
Freeman |
States that the bill is coming into compliance with federal law. |
110 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks about consistency with federal rules. |
120 |
Freeman |
Explains the intent of the bill. |
124 |
Rep. Burley |
Concurs that provisions should not go beyond federal regulations. |
132 |
McClelland |
States that he will provide the committee with a comparison of state and federal provisions. |
138 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks about testing. |
142 |
McClelland |
Explains that DMV is working with Department of Education to comply with federal rules to get drivers certified. |
152 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks for a clarification of the additional knowledge test. |
159 |
McClelland |
Clarifies the testing and deadline rules. |
162 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks about the costs for DMV. |
166 |
McClelland |
Explains the costs associated with licensing. |
173 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks about the expiration date of CDL and testing. |
184 |
Freeman |
Explains that provisions are another endorsement on the CDL and that drivers would have to take a knowledge test and get the endorsement when they pay the fees. |
193 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks for clarification of requirements. |
196 |
Freeman |
Answers that their knowledge test would be valid. |
205 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks if HB 2107 is an unfunded mandate by threatening to withhold highway funds. |
219 |
Freeman |
Answers yes and explains the funding system. |
226 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks how much HB 2107 will cost to implement. |
229 |
Freeman |
Answers that there are 6500 drivers tested annually. |
235 |
Rep. Boone |
Notes that fees could amount to a day’s work for a school bus driver. Asks about costs. |
257 |
Freeman |
Answers that she will get more information. |
260 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks if grandfathering drivers into the system would be considered non-compliance. |
269 |
McClelland |
Answers no. Explains that licensing is a rigorous test. |
284 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks if waiting to administer a written test would be considered non-compliance. |
287 |
McClelland |
Answers that the written test is necessary for practicality purposes. |
297 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks about non-compliance and the Sept. 30 deadline. |
329 |
Freeman |
Explains that grandfathering is before Sept. 30. |
344 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks about the compliance of hours of operation. |
351 |
McClelland |
Answers that he will get the information. |
355 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Asks why drivers should have to pay a fee for school bus endorsement in addition to the CDL. |
371 |
McClelland |
Explains endorsements and proficiency. |
386 |
Houser |
Asks if there are school bus drivers that have a CDL but do not drive another commercial vehicle. |
397 |
McClelland |
Explains the federal requirements. |
406 |
Bob Russell |
President, Oregon Trucking Association. Testifies in support of HB 2107. |
TAPE 16, B |
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020 |
Kelly Skye |
Legislative Liaison, Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 2107. Explains concerns with DUI provisions. Explains that there is no reason to believe that current laws are inadequate. Notes the fiscal impact. |
123 |
Rep. Boone |
Expresses concerns. |
167 |
Bret West |
Assistant Director, Department of Education (DOE). Testifies in support of HB 2107. |
180 |
Chair Gilman |
Asks about impacts the regular school bus driver will face. |
185 |
Craig Pruitt |
Consultant, DOE and People Transportation Industry. Explains school bus driver requirements. |
209 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks about the content of the driver tests. |
211 |
Pruitt |
Explains the test content. |
224 |
Rep. Beyer |
Asks if the fees are paid by the applicant. |
231 |
West |
Refers to (EXHIBIT A) and notes that some districts pay and others do not. |
236 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks about infractions that occur before bill implementation. |
240 |
Pruitt |
Explains infractions and the diversion program. |
257 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if it is appropriate to start drivers with a clean slate upon implementation of the bill. |
270 |
West |
Answers that they have not had such discussions. |
278 |
Tricia Smith |
Oregon School Employees Association. Testifies in support of HB 2107. |
320 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if it would be appropriate to implement policy with drivers having a clean slate. |
335 |
Smith |
Addresses the actions a school should take if a bus driver receives a DUI. |
380 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks if there could be a different fee structure to get a license they already have. |
400 |
Freeman |
Answers that she will get information. Refers to testimony. |
414 |
Chair Gilman |
Asks for questions. |
422 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks why it costs $21 to issue the endorsement. |
434 |
Freeman |
Clarifies and needs get more information. |
TAPE 17, B |
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007 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2107. Opens a public hearing on HB 2116. |
HB - 2116 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2116. |
025 |
John Jackley |
Executive Officer Highway Division, Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony including an overview of HB 2116 (EXHIBIT B). |
063 |
Chair Gilman |
Asks if HB 2116 represents the way operations have always been. |
065 |
Jackley |
Answers yes. |
070 |
Chair Gilman |
Asks for more testimony. Closes the public hearing on 2116 and opens a work session on 2116. |
HB – 2116 – WORK SESSION |
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076 |
Rep. Thatcher |
MOTION: Moves HB 2116 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 (SEE Page 5, TAPE 17 B AT 087) EXCUSED: 1 - Rep. Burley |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
087 |
Chair Gilman |
MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow REP. BURLEY to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the motion to move HB 2116 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
094 |
Rep. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves HB 2116 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
099 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 2116. Opens a work session on LC 1849, LC 2591, LC 2846, and LC 3263. |
LC 1849, LC 2591, LC 2846 & LC 3263 – WORK SESSION |
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102 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Introduces LC 1849, LC 2591, LC 2846, and LC 3263. |
138 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves LC's: 1849 (EXHIBIT C), 2591 (EXHIBIT D), 2846 (EXHIBIT E), & 3263 (EXHIBIT F) BE INTRODUCED as committee bills. |
143 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Expresses concern over safe routes to school bill as perpetuating “more symbolism over real substance.” |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
156 |
Houser |
States that another bill may possibly be introduced for committee consideration. |
167 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session. Adjourns the meeting at 2:47 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY