HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

 

April 06, 2005 Hearing Room C

1:45 P.M.  Tapes 39 - 40

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. George Gilman, Chair

Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. Chuck Burley, Vice-Chair

Rep. Deborah Boone

Rep. Scott Bruun

Rep. Dave Hunt

Rep. Kim Thatcher

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  John Houser, Committee Administrator

Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:

                                                HB 2611 – Public Hearing

                                                HB 2947 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 39, A

003

Chair Gilman

Calls the meeting to order at 1:47 p.m. Opens a public hearing on

HB 2611 and HB 2947.

HB 2611, HB 2947 – PUBLIC HEARING

010

Jim Ludwick

Submits and summarizes prepared information in support of HB 2947 (EXHIBIT A). Explains the process implemented by Idaho that verifies social security numbers which would be a more appropriate way to verify identity.

151

Pedro Sosa

Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2611 and HB 2947 (EXHIBIT B).

181

Alice Perry

American Friends Service Committee. Testifies in opposition to HB 2611 and HB 2947. Explains the difficulty in coordinating the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) and Department of Homeland Security. Testifies that anti-immigrant legislation has been passed since the 1700s and cites the Alien and Sedition Acts.

237

Chair Gilman

Asks about drivers who cannot prove they are here legally.

241

Perry

Answers that driver licenses are for safety.

260

Rep. Hunt

Asks Mr. Sosa for an explanation of the citizenship process.

270

Sosa

Answers that he is seeking political asylum.

274

Rep. Hunt

Asks how long the process will take.

276

Sosa

Answers that he is unsure, but in the past it has taken 10 years.

284

Rep. Bruun

Asks Mr. Sosa where he is from.

286

Sosa

Answers Guatemala.

288

Rep. Bruun

Asks if he has received a temporary status.

294

Sosa

Answers yes.

300

Rep. Bruun

Asks Sosa why he chose to come to America.

302

Sosa

Answers because of the freedom and liberty.

306

Rep. Bruun

Explains that the United States is a nation of laws.

324

Ruth Bendl

Citizen, Portland, Oregon. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2947 (EXHIBIT C). Reiterates the importance of following laws. Testifies that she would like to see a person’s citizenship status on a driver license and should be under Department of Transportation.

390

Rep. Boone

Discusses her experience driving with a United States driver’s license in Europe. Asks if Oregon recognizes international driver’s licenses.

405

Lorna Youngs

Administrator, Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV). Explains the procedures for verifying identification.

TAPE 40, A

010

Rep. Boone

Asks about international students using their driver’s license while attending an Oregon school.

014

Youngs

Answers that she will return information to the committee.

023

Elizabeth Van Staaveren

Citizen, McMinnville, Oregon. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support to HB 2947 (EXHIBIT D).

100

Peter Dane

Citizen, Salem, Oregon. Submits and reads prepared testimony and information in support of HB 2947 (EXHIBIT E).

165

Ramon Ramirez

President, Northwest Treeplanters and Farmworkers United (PCUN). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony and information in opposition to HB 2611 and HB 2947 (EXHIBIT F). Argues that the real problem is immigration reform.

355

Rep. Thatcher

Addresses the newspaper article in EXHIBIT F and argues that it is not racist, and if HB 2947 was in effect, he could not have had 20 licenses.

375

Ramirez

States why he would be open to implementing a system similar to the State of Washington. Notes that Nevada does recognize Oregon Driver’s licenses.

402

Rep. Thatcher

Clarifies that Nevada’s DMV will not accept Oregon drivers license as a form of identification.

405

Ramirez

States that he misunderstood her original statement.

410

Rep. Boone

Asks about documents from Mexican consulate.

414

Ramirez

Answers that a green card is the only document that can be verified by DMV.

TAPE 39, B

012

Rep. Boone

Asks about other documents accepted by DMV.

019

Youngs

Provides definition of the term “verification.” Explains the necessary systems to verify documents.

042

Rep. Boone

Asks Ramirez what he would propose to verify identification if HB 2947 did not pass.

045

Ramirez

Answers that he would favor the current system.

073

Rep. Hunt

Asks if Youngs arrived at the same conclusion with the Latino Task Force.

078

Youngs

Answers that DMV is doing as well as possible with a manual verification system.

091

Rep. Donna Nelson

House District 24. Testifies in support of HB 2611 and HB 2947. Explains the security and protection concerns. Notes that 40 other states have adopted similar legislation. Testifies that it would not be overly burdensome to implement a verification system.

200

Chair Gilman

Notes that another hearing will not be held until amendments are drafted. Closes the public hearing on HB 2611 and HB 2947.

205

John Houser

Committee Administrator. Discusses the committee meeting to be held in Bend, Oregon on April 8, 2005.

The following material is submitted for the record without public testimony:

 

Jim Elvin

Citizen, Salem, Oregon. Submits prepared testimony in support of HB 2947 (EXHIBIT G).

220

Chair Gilman

Adjourns the meeting at 2:59 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. HB 2947, prepared information, Jim Ludwick, 6 pp
  2. HB 2611, HB 2947, prepared testimony, Pedro Sosa, 1 p
  3. HB 2947, prepared testimony, Ruth Bendl, 1 p
  4. HB 2947, prepared testimony, Elizabeth Van Staaveren, 3 pp
  5. HB 2947, prepared testimony, Peter Dane, 2 pp
  6. HB 2611, HB 2947, prepared testimony and information, Ramon Ramirez, 32 pp
  7. HB 2947, prepared testimony, Jim Elvin, 1 p