HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
April 11, 2005 Hearing Room C
1:00 P.M. Tapes 44 - 45
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. George Gilman, Chair
Rep. Deborah Boone
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Kim Thatcher
MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. Chuck Burley, Vice-Chair
STAFF PRESENT: John Houser, Committee Administrator
Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2897 – Public Hearing
HB 2110 – Public Hearing
HB 2576 – Public Hearing
HB 2586 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 44, A |
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003 |
Chair Gilman |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:03 p.m. Opens a public hearing on HB 2897. |
HB 2897 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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007 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2897. |
020 |
Rep. Mitch Greenlick |
House District 33. Testifies in support of HB 2897. Explains the importance of commuter rail operating from Beaverton to Wilsonville and possibly to Salem. Notes the work done by involved parties and that the time frame for the completion of the project is 2017 or 2018. |
076 |
Rep. Jerry Krummel |
House District 26. Testifies in support of HB 2897. Discusses the “bullet train” from the Portland area to Salem. Mentions the Newberg to Milwaukie line and the failure of Clackamas County to get involved in the project. Explains that the line is in place from the Portland area to Salem for Western Pacific Railroad. |
130 |
Rep. Krummel |
Discusses the funding for the rail project. Estimates that there will be 3000 weekday riders by 2020. Estimates the total project cost at $103.5 million. |
150 |
Rep. Krummel |
Explains the importance of involving the railroads in the early stages of the projects. Notes the importance of working with cities and the businesses along the route. Discusses SMART (South Metro Area Rapid Transit) and funding. |
210 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if the train would tie in with Amtrak in Salem. |
215 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Answers that it would come in to Salem at State Street. |
218 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks about the potential for coordination between the commuter rail project and transportation systems such as Amtrak. |
220 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Responds that passengers would take a shuttle between the two. |
222 |
Rep. Krummel |
Explains that it is important to have a bus system to get people from train terminals to their destinations. |
248 |
Rep. Greenlick |
Notes that the rail industry has been very supportive of the passenger rail idea to improve the rail system for freight. |
255 |
Rep. Hunt |
Expresses hope that projects are not competing for the same source of funding. |
270 |
Rep. Krummel |
Responds that they should not be competing since the project would be under federal funding until the light rail system is complete. |
289 |
Fred Nussbaum |
Association of Oregon Rail and Transit Advocates (AORTA). Notes that he took an Amtrak bus from Washington County to the committee hearing and hopes that public transportation will be expanded between Portland and Salem and beyond. Cites a project in Vancouver, B.C. in which a ten-mile commuter rail was operational in two-and-a-half years. |
330 |
Nussbaum |
Notes that light rail has a place in the Portland area, Amtrak has a place for longer distances, and commuter rail has a place between Portland and Salem. |
340 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Declares a potential conflict of interest for HB 2897 due to business interests. |
345 |
Kelly Taylor |
Administrator, Rail Division, Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Explains the work ODOT has done on the commuter rail project. |
361 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2897. Opens a public hearing on HB 2110. |
HB 2110 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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365 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2110. |
370 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Declares a potential conflict of interest for HB 2110 due to business interests. |
375 |
Bruce Warner |
Director, Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Testifies in support of HB 2110. |
400 |
Kelly Taylor |
Administrator, Rail Division, ODOT. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2110 (EXHIBIT A). Explains the importance of a Rail Advisory Committee. |
TAPE 45, A |
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020 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks how the mandate of the advisory committee could change. |
030 |
Taylor |
Answers that the concern is not the mandate, but rather the formation and charter of the committee. |
042 |
Pat Egan |
Port of Portland, Oregon Rail Users League. Testifies in support of the concept of a Rail Advisory Committee. |
061 |
Fred Nussbaum |
Association of Oregon Rail and Transit Advocates (AORTA). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2110 (EXHIBIT B). |
078 |
Ken Armstrong |
Oregon Shortline Railroad Association, Oregon Ports Group. Testifies in support of HB 2110. Describes the importance of the Rail Advisory Committee. |
100 |
Bob Russell |
President, Oregon Trucking Associations, Inc. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in opposition to HB 2110 (EXHIBIT C). |
162 |
D.E. Bridges |
Executive Director, Oregon Forest Products Transportation Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 2110. |
183 |
Cindy Robert |
Union Pacific Railroad. Explains that the Rail Advisory Committee is different from the Freight Advisory Committee. |
208 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2110. Opens a public hearing on HB 2576. |
HB 2576 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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212 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2576. |
222 |
Rep. Jeff Kropf |
House District 17. Testifies in support of HB 2576. Explains that the bill came from the Noxious Weed Taskforce and workgroup. Notes that noxious weeds are becoming more prevalent in Oregon and the bill is necessary to prevent their spread. |
285 |
Rep. Kropf |
Explains the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT D) and the intent to allow law enforcement the flexibility to enforce the law. |
335 |
Rep. Boone |
Notes legislation that addresses larger ships and lakes. |
356 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if invasive species are addressed in statute. |
378 |
Rep. Kropf |
Answers that he does not think it is addressed. |
391 |
Rep. Bruun |
Asks if there is evidence of noxious weeds invading Oregon. |
TAPE 44, B |
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004 |
Rep. Kropf |
Answers that the evidence from the noxious weed workgroup was anecdotal, but it does happen. |
018 |
Rep. Bruun |
Expresses hesitation about the proposed solution. Notes that similar problems could result from off-road vehicles transporting noxious weeds. |
027 |
Rep. Kropf |
Explains that local governments should address the noxious weed issue, but it would not be consistently implemented. Proposes that having Association of Oregon Counties addressing the issue would be a better solution. |
053 |
Rep. Boone |
Proposes that the Oregon State Marine Board take a role in addressing the issue. |
056 |
Rep. Kropf |
Concurs and states that he is willing to consider it. |
065 |
Randy Henry |
Oregon State Marine Board. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 2576 and -1 amendments. |
125 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks if signage would be effective in addressing noxious weeds. |
131 |
Henry |
Answers yes. |
138 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if there is a law to prohibit transferring invasive species on boats. |
142 |
Henry |
Explains the law enforcement jurisdiction over invasive species. |
150 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks for clarification of aquatic species. |
153 |
Henry |
Clarifies that he is referring to plants. |
158 |
Mark Sytsma |
Associate Professor, Environmental Science and Engineering, Portland State University. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2576 (EXHIBIT F). Explains the weeds from aquariums that have infested lakes along the coast. |
210 |
Sytsma |
Notes that in lakes around Florence, lakes with boat ramps had 100% infestation of exotic weeds, while 22% of those without ramps had exotic weeds. States that many people are aware that invasive species are a problem. |
248 |
Rep. Bruun |
Asks if the damage has already been done and legislation will help the problem. |
254 |
Sytsma |
Answers that some species of plants are already spread throughout the waterways. Explains that the bill would help prevent the spread of other species. |
276 |
Rich Angstrom |
Duck hunter. Expresses concern that HB 2576 would make duck hunting illegal “as soon as it comes out”. Describes duck hunters’ use of vegetation for camouflage on their boats and the problems that would result from the passage of HB 2576. |
355 |
Rep. Kropf |
Explains the exemption in the Minnesota law for duck hunting pointed out by Paul Donheffner, Director of the Oregon State Marine Board. Reiterates the intent of the bill. |
376 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2576. Opens a public hearing on HB 2586. |
HB 2586 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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385 |
John Houser |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2586. |
395 |
Brenda Trainer-Huber |
Oregon resident. Testifies in support of HB 2586. Describes her motorcycle accident and submits photos (EXHIBIT G). |
TAPE 45, B |
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082 |
Rep. Boone |
Notes that she is a volunteer fire fighter. Points out that if someone takes action that causes an accident and wonders if the police have the discretion to further investigate. |
094 |
Trainer-Huber |
Answers that attorneys she has spoken with told her it is up to the police to investigate. |
098 |
Rep. Boone |
Argues that if someone causes an accident, it should be further investigated. |
107 |
Chair Gilman |
Asks how her situation would be different with the passage of HB 2586. |
110 |
Trainer-Huber |
Answers that the police could have taken action against the woman who caused the accident. Explains the ongoing suffering and problems associated with the accident. Expresses disappointment that the police did not follow up. |
135 |
Ken Ray |
Executive Director, BikePAC of Oregon, Inc. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony and fact sheet in support of HB 2586 (EXHIBIT H). Cites the case of Bill Janklow who ran a stop sign and killed a motorcyclist. Describes the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT I). |
214 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks for a clarification of the intent of the bill. |
218 |
Ray |
Explains the intent of the bill. Notes that driving is a privilege. |
229 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Explains her concern that the bill would make no distinction between those who drive with reckless disregard and those who have made an honest mistake. |
242 |
Ray |
Explains that the standard in the bill would remain that one would have to be convicted, not only cited. |
252 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Expresses concerns about the bill. Cites her experience of an automobile accident that resulted from making an improper lane change and notes that if it had been a motorcycle it could have been worse. |
280 |
Ray |
Explains the court and citation process. |
325 |
Wayne Schumacher |
BikePAC of Oregon, Inc. Testifies in support of HB 2586. Explains the intent of the bill and the -1 amendments. Notes the concern that driving penalties are not appropriately applied based on citations. |
387 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Further explains her accident scenario and asks if she would have had to hire a defense attorney under HB 2586. |
400 |
Schumacher |
Answers that would be similar to any other type of citation. |
408 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks for a clarification of receiving a citation versus a conviction. |
415 |
Schumacher |
Explains the legal process for citations and convictions. |
431 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2586. |
450 |
Rep. Boone |
Comments on the April 8 committee meeting in Bend. |
470 |
Chair Gilman |
Adjourns the meeting at 2:55 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY