HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION

 

April 20, 2005 Hearing Room C

1:00 P.M. Tapes  52 - 53

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. George Gilman, Chair

Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair

Rep. Chuck Burley, Vice-Chair

Rep. Deborah Boone

Rep. Scott Bruun

Rep. Dave Hunt

Rep. Kim Thatcher

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator

Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:

HB 3019 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2762 – Public Hearing

HB 2946 – Public Hearing and Work Session

                                                HB 2165 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 52, A

003

Chair Gilman

Calls the meeting to order at 1:06 p.m. Opens a public hearing on      HB 3019.

HB 3019 – PUBLIC HEARING

007

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 3019.

015

Pat Egan

Port of Portland. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 3019 (EXHIBIT A). Submits the prepared testimony of Rep. Gary Hansen in support of HB 3019 (EXHIBIT B).

025

Ken Armstrong

Oregon Ports Group; Oregon Short Line Railroad Association. Testifies in support of HB 3019.

035

Jack Crider

General Manager, Port of Tillamook Bay. Testifies in support of       HB 3019. Gives a history of rail operations in the Tillamook area.

065

Rep. Thatcher

Asks who will define “any facilities.”

071

Egan

Answers that ports are operating railroad-related facilities and that the Rail Division of the Oregon Department of Transportation would define terms through their rulemaking.

078

Chair Gilman

Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 3019.

HB 3019 – WORK SESSION

082

Rep. Bruun

MOTION:  Moves HB 3019 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

090

Rep. Thatcher

Expresses concern that the definition of “any facility” could be expanded to compete with private industry.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 – Burley

(Note: See Tape 53, A at 195 on Page 3 of these minutes)

 

Chair Gilman

The motion CARRIES.

REP. BRUUN will lead discussion on the floor.

100

Chair Gilman

Closes the work session on HB 3019. Opens a public hearing on       HB 2762.

HB 2762 – PUBLIC HEARING

105

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2762.

112

Kevin O’Reilly

Oregon Paralyzed Veterans of America. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2762 (EXHIBIT C). Cites the prepared testimony of Darrel Ackerman (EXHIBIT D) and Terry Brown (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 2762.

187

Ronald Edwards

Resident, Linn County. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony and information in support of HB 2762 (EXHIBIT F).

245

Rep. Thatcher

Expresses support for the concept of HB 2762. Clarifies that the proposed difference is changing the signage of parking spaces. Asks if the color scheme would be changed. Declares a potential conflict of interest.

260

Edwards

Answers that the color scheme for van-only spaces would be changed.

263

Rep. Thatcher

Asks if there is a time frame for changing the signage and paint scheme.

265

O’Reilly

Answers that it the changes would begin once the bill becomes law.

268

Edwards

Explains the work currently being done repainting parking lots.

276

Rick Bennett

AARP of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2762.

295

Jacqueline Zimmer

Oregon Association of Area Agencies on Aging and Disabilities. Testifies in support of HB 2762.

311

Chair Gilman

Closes the public hearing on HB 2762. Opens a public hearing on

HB 2946.

HB 2946 – PUBLIC HEARING

318

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2946.

325

Rep. Dave Hunt

Testifies in support of HB 2946. Submits -1 amendments      (EXHIBIT G) and summarizes the prepared testimony of Joyce Wofford (EXHIBIT H). Explains the issue of identity theft and disabled parking placards. Lists organizations that support HB 2946.

383

Rep. Wayne Krieger

House District 1. Testifies in support of HB 2946. Reads EXHIBIT H into the record.

TAPE 53, A

030

Rep. Hunt

Notes that the fiscal impact was eliminated by requiring the changing of the placards upon renewal or for newly issued permits rather than recalling them.

038

Kevin O’Reilly

Oregon Paralyzed Veterans of America. Testifies in support of          HB 2946.

051

Rick Bennett

AARP of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2946.

065

Pam Leavitt

Credit Union Association of Oregon. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2946 (EXHIBIT I). Relates instances of identity theft.

105

Jacqueline Zimmer

Oregon Association of Agencies on Aging and Disability. Testifies in support of the concept of HB 2946. Wonders if it is possible to make temporary modifications to the current permits until they are renewed.

130

Rep. Hunt

Asks if the changes should be addressed in rulemaking.

133

Zimmer

Agrees that the Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV) can be trusted to implement the issue, since they are working on other identity theft issues.

142

Chair Gilman

Notes that the bill has no fiscal impact and hopes that it can remain without one.

149

Susan Schneider

City of Portland. Testifies in support of HB 2946. Notes that the -1 amendment addresses the City of Portland’s concerns with the bill.

157

Chair Gilman

Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2946.

HB 2946 – WORK SESSION

165

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2946-1 amendments dated 4/20/05.

 

 

VOTE:  6-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Boone

 

Chair Gilman

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

 

170

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Moves HB 2946 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Gilman

The motion CARRIES.

REP. HUNT will lead discussion on the floor.

190

Chair Gilman

Closes the work session on HB 2946. Reopens a work session on      HB 3019.

HB 3019 – WORK SESSION

195

Rep. Hunt

MOTION:  Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow REP. BURLEY to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the motion to move  HB 3019 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Gilman

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

200

Chair Gilman

Closes the work session on HB 3019. Opens a public hearing on       HB 2165.

HB 2165 – PUBLIC HEARING

205

Patrick Brennan

Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2165, -3 amendments (EXHIBIT J), -5 amendments (EXHIBIT K), and -6 amendments (EXHIBIT L).

215

Art Schlack

Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Testifies in support of         HB 2165. Explains the work done on the issue. Explains the -5 amendments.

330

Schlack

Explains the -3 amendments.

367

Don Lindly

Lincoln County Commissioner. Testifies in support of HB 2165.

TAPE 52, B

004

Rep. Burley

Solicits comment on the -6 amendments.

006

Schlack

Argues that they are not “keeping with the primary intent” of with    HB 2165.

024

Bruce Warner

Director, Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony and information regarding HB 2165 (EXHIBIT M).

096

Rep. Hunt

Asks about the participants involved in the implementation of           HB 2165.

103

Warner

Answers that the intent was to work with AOC and League of Oregon Cities (LOC) on concerns, but the list of interested parties is not complete.

114

Rep. Beyer

Asks who brought the -6 amendments.

120

Brennan

Answers it they came from Randy Tucker of Metro.

127

Randy Tucker

Legislative Affairs Director, Metro. Testifies that Metro is neutral on HB 2165 as introduced, and discusses the -6 amendments. Proposes changes to the -5 amendments.

177

Chair Gilman

Notes that Oregonians, not any government organizations, own all of the state’s transportation systems.

181

Rep. Boone

Asks about the intent of the bill.

195

Tucker

Explains the intent and cites language in -5 amendments.

213

Rep. Boone

Asks if the original group had a mass transit or metro planning organization representative.

217

Tucker

Answers not to his knowledge.

220

Rep. Boone

Asks if the makeup of the committee is cities, counties, and the state.

222

Tucker

Answers yes.

228

Rep. Burley

Clarifies the -6 amendment changes.

236

Cindy Robert

Oregon Transit Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 2165. Argues that the involved parties will come together to meet when it is necessary, and asserts it is not necessary to put the committee in statute.

290

Rep. Hunt

Argues with Ms. Robert in theory, but notes that groups are not working together effectively.

306

Robert

Answers that groups do work together regardless of whether or not a committee is set in statute.

325

Rep. Hunt

Asks what initially inspired HB 2165.

330

Robert

Speculates that it is from local elected officials being left out of ConnectOregon conversations.

356

Rep. Burley

Notes that it is commendable that there has been so much effort on the issue, but says that a statutory committee is not the answer.

360

Robert

Concurs.

365

Rep. Burley

Notes the number of advisory committees administered by ODOT. Wonders about a uniform policy to make committees statutory.

400

Robert

Explains the history of advisory committees and their effectiveness.

TAPE 53, B

001

Rep. Boone

Notes that advisory committees tend to arise from frustration that groups are not working together.

010

Robert

Argues that if the issues are important, groups will participate, regardless of whether an advisory committee is statutory or not.

015

Rep. Burley

Notes that if groups do not want to agree they will not, regardless of whether an advisory committee has been created.

026

Rep. Beyer

Expresses frustration that the involved groups are not talking to each other in the process.

037

Rep. Bruun

Asks what should happen if the committee is not set in statute.

050

Robert

Answers that the current system works fine. Argues that there is nothing for the parties to talk about in an advisory committee setting.

065

Tucker

Describes the changes in transportation funding.

076

Rep. Beyer

Addresses the concerns that LOC and AOC were not involved in projects such as the Oregon Transportation Investment Act (OTIA).

090

Robert

Argues that ODOT should “sit everyone down and make it work”.

105

Mike McArthur

Director, AOC. Explains the need for long-range planning on transportation policy. Explains that setting advisory committees in statute would involve the legislature in the process.

143

Rep. Burley

Asks how the legislature would be involved.

145

McArthur

Answers that the legislature creates statute and setting policy.

153

Rep. Burley

Argues that the legislature should not be a referee in the discussions.

163

McArthur

Responds that statutory advisory committees are a way to get the legislature involved.

168

Rep. Burley

Asks if the measure involves the legislature by providing a seat on the committee.

170

McArthur

Answers that the legislature would be involved by creating the committee.

182

Chair Gilman

Closes the public hearing on HB 2165. Adjourns the meeting at 2:42 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. HB 3019, prepared testimony, Pat Egan, 1 p
  2. HB 3019, prepared testimony of Rep. Gary Hansen, Pat Egan, 2 pp
  3. HB 2762, prepared testimony, Kevin O’Reilly, 2 pp
  4. HB 2762, prepared testimony of Darrel Ackerman, Kevin O’Reilly, 2 pp
  5. HB 2762, prepared testimony of Terry Brown, Kevin O’Reilly, 1 p
  6. HB 2762, prepared testimony and information, Ronald Edwards, 11 pp
  7. HB 2946, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  8. HB 2946, prepared testimony of Joyce Wafford, Rep. Dave Hunt, 1 p
  9. HB 2946, prepared testimony, Pam Leavitt, 4 pp
  10. HB 2165, -3 amendments, staff, 1 p
  11. HB 2165, -5 amendments, staff, 2 pp
  12. HB 2165, -6 amendments, staff, 1 p
  13. HB 2165, prepared testimony, Bruce Warner, 4 pp