HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
April 20, 2005 Hearing Room C
1:00 P.M. Tapes 52 - 53
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. George Gilman, Chair
Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. Chuck Burley, Vice-Chair
Rep. Deborah Boone
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Kim Thatcher
STAFF PRESENT: Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator
Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 3019 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2762 – Public Hearing
HB 2946 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 2165 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 52, A |
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003 |
Chair Gilman |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:06 p.m. Opens a public hearing on HB 3019. |
HB 3019 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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007 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 3019. |
015 |
Pat Egan |
Port of Portland. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 3019 (EXHIBIT A). Submits the prepared testimony of Rep. Gary Hansen in support of HB 3019 (EXHIBIT B). |
025 |
Ken Armstrong |
Oregon Ports Group; Oregon Short Line Railroad Association. Testifies in support of HB 3019. |
035 |
Jack Crider |
General Manager, Port of Tillamook Bay. Testifies in support of HB 3019. Gives a history of rail operations in the Tillamook area. |
065 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks who will define “any facilities.” |
071 |
Egan |
Answers that ports are operating railroad-related facilities and that the Rail Division of the Oregon Department of Transportation would define terms through their rulemaking. |
078 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 3019. |
HB 3019 – WORK SESSION |
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082 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves HB 3019 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
090 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Expresses concern that the definition of “any facility” could be expanded to compete with private industry. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 – Burley (Note: See Tape 53, A at 195 on Page 3 of these minutes) |
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Chair Gilman |
The motion CARRIES. REP. BRUUN will lead discussion on the floor. |
100 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 3019. Opens a public hearing on HB 2762. |
HB 2762 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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105 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2762. |
112 |
Kevin O’Reilly |
Oregon Paralyzed Veterans of America. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2762 (EXHIBIT C). Cites the prepared testimony of Darrel Ackerman (EXHIBIT D) and Terry Brown (EXHIBIT E) in support of HB 2762. |
187 |
Ronald Edwards |
Resident, Linn County. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony and information in support of HB 2762 (EXHIBIT F). |
245 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Expresses support for the concept of HB 2762. Clarifies that the proposed difference is changing the signage of parking spaces. Asks if the color scheme would be changed. Declares a potential conflict of interest. |
260 |
Edwards |
Answers that the color scheme for van-only spaces would be changed. |
263 |
Rep. Thatcher |
Asks if there is a time frame for changing the signage and paint scheme. |
265 |
O’Reilly |
Answers that it the changes would begin once the bill becomes law. |
268 |
Edwards |
Explains the work currently being done repainting parking lots. |
276 |
Rick Bennett |
AARP of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2762. |
295 |
Jacqueline Zimmer |
Oregon Association of Area Agencies on Aging and Disabilities. Testifies in support of HB 2762. |
311 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2762. Opens a public hearing on HB 2946. |
HB 2946 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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318 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2946. |
325 |
Rep. Dave Hunt |
Testifies in support of HB 2946. Submits -1 amendments (EXHIBIT G) and summarizes the prepared testimony of Joyce Wofford (EXHIBIT H). Explains the issue of identity theft and disabled parking placards. Lists organizations that support HB 2946. |
383 |
Rep. Wayne Krieger |
House District 1. Testifies in support of HB 2946. Reads EXHIBIT H into the record. |
TAPE 53, A |
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030 |
Rep. Hunt |
Notes that the fiscal impact was eliminated by requiring the changing of the placards upon renewal or for newly issued permits rather than recalling them. |
038 |
Kevin O’Reilly |
Oregon Paralyzed Veterans of America. Testifies in support of HB 2946. |
051 |
Rick Bennett |
AARP of Oregon. Testifies in support of HB 2946. |
065 |
Pam Leavitt |
Credit Union Association of Oregon. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2946 (EXHIBIT I). Relates instances of identity theft. |
105 |
Jacqueline Zimmer |
Oregon Association of Agencies on Aging and Disability. Testifies in support of the concept of HB 2946. Wonders if it is possible to make temporary modifications to the current permits until they are renewed. |
130 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if the changes should be addressed in rulemaking. |
133 |
Zimmer |
Agrees that the Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV) can be trusted to implement the issue, since they are working on other identity theft issues. |
142 |
Chair Gilman |
Notes that the bill has no fiscal impact and hopes that it can remain without one. |
149 |
Susan Schneider |
City of Portland. Testifies in support of HB 2946. Notes that the -1 amendment addresses the City of Portland’s concerns with the bill. |
157 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2946. |
HB 2946 – WORK SESSION |
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165 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2946-1 amendments dated 4/20/05. |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Boone |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
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170 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves HB 2946 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Gilman |
The motion CARRIES. REP. HUNT will lead discussion on the floor. |
190 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 2946. Reopens a work session on HB 3019. |
HB 3019 – WORK SESSION |
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195 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Requests unanimous consent that the rules be SUSPENDED to allow REP. BURLEY to BE RECORDED as voting AYE on the motion to move HB 3019 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
200 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 3019. Opens a public hearing on HB 2165. |
HB 2165 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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205 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2165, -3 amendments (EXHIBIT J), -5 amendments (EXHIBIT K), and -6 amendments (EXHIBIT L). |
215 |
Art Schlack |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Testifies in support of HB 2165. Explains the work done on the issue. Explains the -5 amendments. |
330 |
Schlack |
Explains the -3 amendments. |
367 |
Don Lindly |
Lincoln County Commissioner. Testifies in support of HB 2165. |
TAPE 52, B |
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004 |
Rep. Burley |
Solicits comment on the -6 amendments. |
006 |
Schlack |
Argues that they are not “keeping with the primary intent” of with HB 2165. |
024 |
Bruce Warner |
Director, Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Submits and summarizes prepared testimony and information regarding HB 2165 (EXHIBIT M). |
096 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks about the participants involved in the implementation of HB 2165. |
103 |
Warner |
Answers that the intent was to work with AOC and League of Oregon Cities (LOC) on concerns, but the list of interested parties is not complete. |
114 |
Rep. Beyer |
Asks who brought the -6 amendments. |
120 |
Brennan |
Answers it they came from Randy Tucker of Metro. |
127 |
Randy Tucker |
Legislative Affairs Director, Metro. Testifies that Metro is neutral on HB 2165 as introduced, and discusses the -6 amendments. Proposes changes to the -5 amendments. |
177 |
Chair Gilman |
Notes that Oregonians, not any government organizations, own all of the state’s transportation systems. |
181 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks about the intent of the bill. |
195 |
Tucker |
Explains the intent and cites language in -5 amendments. |
213 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks if the original group had a mass transit or metro planning organization representative. |
217 |
Tucker |
Answers not to his knowledge. |
220 |
Rep. Boone |
Asks if the makeup of the committee is cities, counties, and the state. |
222 |
Tucker |
Answers yes. |
228 |
Rep. Burley |
Clarifies the -6 amendment changes. |
236 |
Cindy Robert |
Oregon Transit Association. Testifies in opposition to HB 2165. Argues that the involved parties will come together to meet when it is necessary, and asserts it is not necessary to put the committee in statute. |
290 |
Rep. Hunt |
Argues with Ms. Robert in theory, but notes that groups are not working together effectively. |
306 |
Robert |
Answers that groups do work together regardless of whether or not a committee is set in statute. |
325 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks what initially inspired HB 2165. |
330 |
Robert |
Speculates that it is from local elected officials being left out of ConnectOregon conversations. |
356 |
Rep. Burley |
Notes that it is commendable that there has been so much effort on the issue, but says that a statutory committee is not the answer. |
360 |
Robert |
Concurs. |
365 |
Rep. Burley |
Notes the number of advisory committees administered by ODOT. Wonders about a uniform policy to make committees statutory. |
400 |
Robert |
Explains the history of advisory committees and their effectiveness. |
TAPE 53, B |
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001 |
Rep. Boone |
Notes that advisory committees tend to arise from frustration that groups are not working together. |
010 |
Robert |
Argues that if the issues are important, groups will participate, regardless of whether an advisory committee is statutory or not. |
015 |
Rep. Burley |
Notes that if groups do not want to agree they will not, regardless of whether an advisory committee has been created. |
026 |
Rep. Beyer |
Expresses frustration that the involved groups are not talking to each other in the process. |
037 |
Rep. Bruun |
Asks what should happen if the committee is not set in statute. |
050 |
Robert |
Answers that the current system works fine. Argues that there is nothing for the parties to talk about in an advisory committee setting. |
065 |
Tucker |
Describes the changes in transportation funding. |
076 |
Rep. Beyer |
Addresses the concerns that LOC and AOC were not involved in projects such as the Oregon Transportation Investment Act (OTIA). |
090 |
Robert |
Argues that ODOT should “sit everyone down and make it work”. |
105 |
Mike McArthur |
Director, AOC. Explains the need for long-range planning on transportation policy. Explains that setting advisory committees in statute would involve the legislature in the process. |
143 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks how the legislature would be involved. |
145 |
McArthur |
Answers that the legislature creates statute and setting policy. |
153 |
Rep. Burley |
Argues that the legislature should not be a referee in the discussions. |
163 |
McArthur |
Responds that statutory advisory committees are a way to get the legislature involved. |
168 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if the measure involves the legislature by providing a seat on the committee. |
170 |
McArthur |
Answers that the legislature would be involved by creating the committee. |
182 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2165. Adjourns the meeting at 2:42 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY