HOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION
May 2, 2005 Hearing Room C
1:00 P.M. Tapes 60 - 61
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. George Gilman, Chair
Rep. Terry Beyer, Vice-Chair
Rep. Chuck Burley, Vice-Chair
Rep. Deborah Boone
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Kim Thatcher
STAFF PRESENT: Patrick Brennan, Committee Administrator
Mike Reiley, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2108 – Work Session
HB 2113 – Work Session
HB 2429 – Work Session
HB 2811 – Work Session
HB 3121 – Work Session
HB 2017 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3467 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 60, A |
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003 |
Chair Gilman |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:08 p.m. Opens a work session on HB 2108. |
HB 2108 – WORK SESSION |
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006 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2108 and -4 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
021 |
Robin Freeman |
Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Explains the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
068 |
Chair Gilman |
Requests confirmation that ODOT will give a receipt to individuals whose documents are confiscated under provisions of the bill as amended by the -4 amendments. |
070 |
Freeman |
Answers yes. |
072 |
Michael Ward |
Field Services Manager, Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV). Notes that with the receipt, a customer will receive copies of the confiscated documents. |
075 |
Rep. Bruun |
Requests clarification that confiscation refers to government-issued documents as opposed to documents used to establish residency such as a utility bill. |
078 |
Ward |
Answers yes. |
083 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks about stakeholder support for the -4 amendments. |
092 |
Freeman |
Answers that there are some concerns related to the receipt provisions absent from statute. |
095 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks why there is a sunset provision. |
096 |
Freeman |
Answers that the sunset was added to be sensitive to the concerns of the affected parties. Notes the expectancy that with posting signs at DMV locations informing the public of the new policies, there would be less need for document confiscation. |
106 |
Rep. Burley |
Expresses concern that the six-day time frame may be too long. |
117 |
Freeman |
Explains that the timeline is for circumstances that may arise, such as holidays, employee absences, or disruption of services. Clarifies that delivery refers to mail delivery. |
132 |
Nargess Shadbeh |
Oregon Law Center. Expresses concern about the confiscation of documents. Notes that the timeframe could be different depending from where the documents are sent. |
177 |
Rep. Boone |
Points out that DMV would only confiscate documents that are suspected to be fraudulent. |
187 |
Shadbeh |
Explains that documents being seized improperly has happened in the past and will likely continue to happen. |
201 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks for proposed amendments to address the issue of improperly seized documents. |
209 |
Shadbeh |
Responds that a special magistrate or hearings officer could be charged with reviewing issues. |
223 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if the special magistrate or officer should be under the authority of DMV rather than law enforcement. |
225 |
Shadbeh |
Answers yes. |
227 |
Andrea Meyer |
Legislative Affairs Director, American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Emphasizes that the concerns are for those whose documents were seized improperly, not those who are engaged in illegal activity. |
283 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 2108. Opens a work session on HB 2113. |
HB 2113 – WORK SESSION |
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290 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2113 and -2 amendments (EXHIBIT B). |
320 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks for a clarification of the -2 amendments. |
326 |
Mike Marsh |
Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT). Explains the -2 amendments. |
355 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2113-2 amendments dated 4/15/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
361 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves HB 2113 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Gilman |
The motion CARRIES. REP. HUNT will lead discussion on the floor. |
374 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 2113. Opens a work session on HB 2429. |
HB 2429 – WORK SESSION |
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378 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2429 and -2 amendments (EXHIBIT C). |
405 |
Barbara Crest |
Executive Director, Northwest Automotive Trades Association (NATA). Testifies in support of HB 2429 and explains the -2 amendments. |
TAPE 61, A |
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026 |
Bob Anderson |
President, NATA. Testifies in support of HB 2429. |
040 |
Rep. Thatcher |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2429-2 amendments dated 4/20/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
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046 |
Rep. Thatcher |
MOTION: Moves HB 2429 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Gilman |
The motion CARRIES. REP. THATCHER will lead discussion on the floor. |
060 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 2429. Opens a work session on HB 2811. |
HB 2811 – WORK SESSION |
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064 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2811 and -6 amendments (EXHIBIT D) and -7 amendments (EXHIBIT E). |
072 |
Mark Landauer |
Office of Government Relations, City of Portland. Explains the -6 amendments. Describes the problems with the amendments and proposes a language change to insert the term “television” to specifically define broadcasted images. |
108 |
Rep. Burley |
Speaks in favor of the proposed language amendments to achieve the desired objective. |
119 |
Landauer |
Testifies that the -7 amendments are overly broad and the -6 amendments would be more effective with the language change. |
127 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 2811. Opens a work session on HB 3121. |
HB 3121 – WORK SESSION |
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129 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 3121 and notes the prepared testimony from Phil Stenbeck, Senior Planner, Douglas County Planning Department (EXHIBIT F) and the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT G). |
143 |
Shaun Jillions |
Legislative Assistant, Rep. Bob Jenson. Testifies in support of HB 3121 and explains the -1 amendments. |
187 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if the option of registered mail will still exist. |
190 |
Jillions |
Answers yes and explains that the option of registered mail, certified mail, or first class mail still exist with certificate of mailing. |
192 |
Rep. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3121-1 amendments dated 5/2/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
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195 |
Rep. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves HB 3121 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Gilman |
The motion CARRIES. REP. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor. |
200 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 3121. Opens a public hearing on HB 2017. |
HB 2017 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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204 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 2017 and the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT H). |
218 |
Darrell Fuller |
Regulatory Affairs Director, Oregon Automobile Dealers Association. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 2017 (EXHIBIT I) and testifies in support of the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT J). |
300 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on HB 2017. |
HB 2017 – WORK SESSION |
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307 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2017-2 amendments dated 5/2/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.
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311 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves HB 2017 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Gilman |
The motion CARRIES.
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316 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves HB 2017 be placed on the CONSENT CALENDAR. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Gilman |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
320 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the work session on HB 2017. Opens a public hearing on HB 3467. |
HB 3467 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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330 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Introduces HB 3467. |
345 |
Ron Finster |
Economics Professor Emeritus, Western Oregon University. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony and information in support of HB 3467 (EXHIBIT K). |
TAPE 60, B |
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050 |
Finster |
Continues summarizing prepared testimony. |
229 |
Rep. Bruun |
Expresses concern about public input and the impact on the counties’ decisions. |
241 |
Finster |
Answers that the solution in the bill addresses common issues faced by all the counties in Oregon. |
251 |
Rep. Bruun |
Expresses concern that if the legislature acts, individuals would lose their ability to voice concerns. |
260 |
Finster |
Notes that the operations of the counties do not change with passage of HB 3467 and that the measure would expand individual rights rather than restrict them. |
280 |
Rep. Bruun |
Asks if the counties could lose their authority to address issues that arise. |
285 |
Finster |
Answers that the counties would not lose their authority under the bill. |
288 |
Chair Gilman |
Notes the loss of public access to county lands. |
290 |
Finster |
Answers yes and notes that the county would not lose authority. |
294 |
Rep. Bruun |
Reiterates concern that the individual counties lose their authority. |
315 |
Finster |
Explains that the counties are involved throughout the petition process. |
327 |
Rep. Burley |
Points out that the issue becomes complex with multiple landowners petitioning for access to a public road. |
353 |
Finster |
Explains landowners’ public rights. |
366 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if blocking public access could provide private landowners with a private road that is maintained by the county. |
378 |
Finster |
Answers that the county is not required to maintain the road unless there is a public reason for doing it. |
382 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if counties would have access to the road for county business. |
385 |
Finster |
Answers yes and explains county access. |
405 |
Kevin Westfall |
Oregon Cattlemen’s Association. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of HB 3467 (EXHIBIT L). |
TAPE 61, B |
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020 |
Art Schlack |
Association of Oregon Counties (AOC). Testifies in opposition to HB 3467. Expresses concerns regarding the designation of public and private roads and the lack of a public hearing process. |
038 |
Rep. Bruun |
Asks how difficult it would be to change an non-used county road to a private road. |
041 |
Schlack |
Answers that it would include a request to the county followed by a review and a public hearing. |
044 |
Rep. Bruun |
Asks if it would involve a financial transaction. |
047 |
Schlack |
Answers that it may. |
050 |
Rep. Burley |
Asks if changing the status to a public road is the same as vacating. |
053 |
Schlack |
Answers that it is a different process. |
056 |
Chair Gilman |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3467. |
068 |
Patrick Brennan |
Committee Administrator. Explains the upcoming committee field trip to the Mexican Consulate in Portland. |
100 |
Chair Gilman |
Adjourns the meeting at 2:38 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY