HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
VETERANS’ AFFAIRS
April 19, 2005 Hearing Room C
8:30 A.M. Tapes 75 - 76
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Donna Nelson, Chair
Rep. Phil Barnhart, Vice-Chair
Rep. Debi Farr, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Betty Komp
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Stembridge, Committee Administrator
Erin Seiler, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HJR 34 – Work Session
HB 2425 – Work Session
HB 2602 – Work Session
HB 2739 – Work Session
HB 2878 – Work Session
HB 2138 – Public Hearing
HB 2795 – Work Session
HJM 13 – Public Hearing
HJM 25 – Public Hearing
HJM 17 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 75, A |
||
001 |
Chair Nelson |
Opens the meeting at 8:43 a.m. Discusses the committees’ visits to Roseburg and White City. |
064 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Submits and summarizes Case History Memorandum (EXHIBIT A). Submits National Homeless Veterans’ Report on behalf of Jennifer Vina (EXHIBIT B). Submits written testimony of Ronald Estep on Veterans’ Issues (EXHIBIT C). Submits and summarizes The Dalles Chronicle newspaper article on Veterans’ Issues (EXHIBIT D). |
140 |
Chair Nelson |
Opens a work session on HJR 34. |
HJR 34 – WORK SESSION |
||
142 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HJR 34, which proposes amendment to Oregon Constitution dedicating portion of net proceeds of State Lottery for services for Oregon veterans. Submits and summarizes -5 amendments (EXHIBIT E). Submits -2 amendments (EXHIBIT F). |
160 |
Chair Nelson |
Recesses meeting at 8:55 a.m. |
194 |
Chair Nelson |
Reconvenes meeting at 8:58 a.m. |
196 |
Rep. Boquist |
Summarizes -2 amendments. |
226 |
Rep. Hunt |
Clarifies the potential fiscal implications of -2 amendments. |
228 |
Rep. Boquist |
Submits and summarizes Fiscal Impact Chart on HJR 34 (EXHIBIT G). |
301 |
Rep. Komp |
Asks how much money is expected to be diverted for veterans’ services in 2007-09 biennium. |
308 |
Rep. Boquist |
States that during Fiscal Year 2007-09 it estimated that the veterans’ services will receive $14.5 million in lottery dollars. |
317 |
Rep. Komp |
Asks if a budget estimate has been drafted for County Veterans’ Service Officers program. |
320 |
Chair Nelson |
States that the budget estimate for the County Veterans’ Service Officers was determined based on current veteran population in Oregon. |
344 |
Jim Willis |
Director, Oregon Department of Veterans’ Affairs (ODVA). Explains what the potential impact will be on the workload of County Veterans’ Service Officers when currently deployed soldiers return to Oregon. |
360 |
Chair Nelson |
Explains how the budget estimate for the County Veterans’ Service Officers program was calculated. |
404 |
Rep. Komp |
Verifies that current budget proposal only provides assistance to County Veterans’ Service Officers program and does not provide funds for rehabilitation or scholarships. |
TAPE 76, A |
||
006 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Questions if the language pertaining to computer services is too “restrictive and does not allow us to spend money” on computer services. |
017 |
Chair Nelson |
Explains why money can be spent on computer services. |
025 |
Chair Nelson |
Lists the type of services that can be provided using the lottery dollars diverted into the veterans’ fund. |
050 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Verifies that the “Vet-Net” computer system would be expensed under services, not administration. |
060 |
Stembridge |
Clarifies the impact of each proposed amendment to HJR 34. |
081 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HJR 34-5 amendments dated 04/11/05. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
087 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HJR 34-2 amendments dated 04/11/05. |
091 |
Rep. Hunt |
Points out how -2 amendments are a “thoughtful approach” to helping veterans and preserving salmon watershed protection program. |
100 |
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
103 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HJR 34 to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Revenue by prior reference. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
|
Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
122 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HJR 34. Opens a work session on HB 2425. |
HB 2425- WORK SESSION |
||
126 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2425, which directs State Parks and Recreation Commission to allow free use of state parks. Campsites and day use areas on any day by disabled veterans and active duty military personal. Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT H). |
138 |
Tim Wood |
Director, Oregon Parks and Recreation Department. States that the Oregon Parks and Recreation Department has no objection to HB 2425 or-1 amendments. |
144 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2425-1 amendments dated 04/11/05. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
149 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 2425 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Revenue by prior reference. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
|
Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
158 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2425. Opens a work session on HB 2602. |
HB 2602 – WORK SESSION |
||
160 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2602, which creates Oregon Military Emergency Financial Relief Program and Oregon Military Emergency Financial Relief Fund. Submits and summarizes -3 amendments (EXHIBIT I). Submits and summarizes -4 amendments (EXHIBIT J). |
188 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Testifies in support of HB 2602. |
222 |
Mac MacDonald |
Representative, Veterans’ Organizations. Testifies in support of HB 2602 and points out that Oregon Reservists should be eligible for relief funds. |
239 |
Rep. Hunt |
Questions removing the grant limit because “it seems reasonable to me to have a cap.” |
249 |
Caldwell |
Explains that OMD did not ask to remove the cap on grant amounts, but notes that funding caps have the tendency to limit long term administrative adaptability. |
274 |
Chair Nelson |
Explains the challenge of including Oregon Reservists in HB 2602. |
297 |
Rep. Farr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2602-4 amendments dated 04/18/05. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
304 |
Rep. Farr |
MOTION: Moves HB 2602 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference. |
320 |
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
|
Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
336 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2602. Opens a work session on HB 2739. |
HB 2739 – WORK SESSION |
||
345 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2739, which directs State Parks and Recreation Director to adopt rules that make state funding assistance available to nonprofit veterans’ organizations to construct and restore veterans and war memorials located on public property. |
358 |
Tim Wood |
Director, Oregon Parks and Recreation Department (OPRD). Addresses concern that OPRD does not have an interest in developing veteran’s memorial. Explains that OPRD opposition to HB 2739 is because OPRD already has two grant programs for constructing memorials. |
391 |
Chair Nelson |
Opens the work session on HB 2878. |
HB 2878 – WORK SESSION |
||
392 |
Wood |
Clarifies that OPRD already has statutory authority to acquire land for the purpose of building memorials. |
TAPE 75, B |
||
004 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks how much grant money is available from OPRD. |
007 |
Wood |
States that Local Grant Program is funded at $8.5 million dollars and Heritage Grant Program is funded at the $200 thousand dollars. |
011 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks what the difference is between Heritage Grant Program and Local Grant Program. |
013 |
Wood |
Explains the difference between the two grant programs. |
024 |
Rep. Hunt |
Confirms that passing HB 2878 and HB 2739 would make it clear that veterans memorial do qualify for OPRD grant money and would not put any additional administrative responsibilities on OPRD. |
035 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks what the criteria are for awarding grants. |
038 |
Wood |
Explains how applications for Heritage and Local Grant Programs are evaluated. |
045 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks if OPRD has ever exercised eminent domain authority. |
048 |
Wood |
Explains why OPRD has eminent authority and why it needs to remain in statute, noting that the last time OPRD actually exercised the authority was 1978. |
070 |
Dave Wright |
Assistant Director, OPRD. Explains why OPRD used eminent domain authority in 1978. |
091 |
Rep. Farr |
Verifies that $8 million dollars was allocated for the Heritage Grant Program in the 2003-05 and 2005-07 state budget. |
095 |
Rep. Farr |
Asks what memorials have received funds from Heritage Grant Program. |
098 |
Wood |
Explains that no organization or individual has applied for a Heritage Grant. |
102 |
Rep. Farr |
Confirms that the Afghan/Iraqi Memorial would qualify for OPRD grant programs. |
107 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if the OPRD grant programs are over-subscribed. |
117 |
Wood |
States that the grant programs are “slightly over-subscribed.” |
122 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks how long the OPRD has been allocated money for memorials. |
124 |
Wood |
Explains the funding history of grant programs. |
170 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves HB 2739 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
|
Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. REP. BOQUIST will lead discussion on the floor. |
189 |
Rep. Hunt |
Verifies that -1 amendments only remove eminent domain authority from OPRD. |
197 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves HB 2878 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
|
Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. REP. HUNT will lead discussion on the floor. |
The following written material is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
||
|
Tim Wood |
Submits information packet on HB 2739 which includes: list of Oregon Parks and Recreation Commission, list of Local Government Grants Advisory Committee, list of Oregon Heritage Commission, and list of all projects awarded grants from Local Government Grants Program and Oregon Heritage Grants Program (EXHIBIT K). |
222 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2739 and HB 2878. Opens a public hearing on HB 2138. |
HB 2138 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
234 |
Jim Stembridge |
Explains HB 2138, which requires that official military orders make certain specific statement for person to receive during military leave. Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT L). Submits and summarizes fiscal impact statement on HB 2138 (EXHIBIT M). |
275 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Explains the necessity and purpose of HB 2138. |
318 |
Chair Nelson |
Explains how the fiscal impact statement was calculated. |
344 |
Caldwell |
Questions if the Department of Administrative Services considered the type of military orders of each employee when calculating fiscal impact. |
382 |
Chair Nelson |
Confirms that OMD pays soldiers for annual training, even if their employer continues to pay them. |
391 |
Caldwell |
Clarifies the statutory effect of the bill. |
TAPE 76, B |
||
001 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if the OMD interprets annual training as 15 calendar days. |
004 |
Caldwell |
Explains that the intent of the state is to allow for 15 consecutive days of leave for annual training. |
016 |
Rep. Boquist |
Questions whether the fiscal statement really reflects 88 hours of annual training, not the 15 consecutive days provide by statute. |
021 |
Caldwell |
Explains how the fiscal statement is based 88 hours or 11 work days out of 15 for annual training, adding that accuracy should be clarified with Legislative Counsel. |
043 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HB 2138. Opens a work session on HB 2795. |
HB 2795 – WORK SESSION |
||
047 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2795, which appropriates moneys from General Fund to Director of Veterans’ Affairs for building memorial to Oregon Military personal killed in Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT N). |
070 |
Chair Nelson |
Submits Afghan Iraqi Freedom Memorial Illustrations (EXHIBIT O). |
074 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2795-1 amendments dated 04/13/05. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 |
|
Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
077 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 2795 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference. |
|
|
VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
|
Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
099 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2795. Opens a public hearing on HJM 13. |
HJM 13 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
106 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HJM 13, which urges President and Congress to exempt veteran disability and pension income from federal income taxation. |
118 |
Mac MacDonald |
Representative, Veterans’ Organizations. Testifies in support of HJM 13. |
135 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HJM 13. Open a public hearing on HJM 25. |
HJM 25 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
139 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HJM 25, which urges Congress to eliminate practice of subtracting disability payments from pension amounts due to disabled veterans regardless of level of disability. |
145 |
Chair Nelson |
Expresses support for HJM 25. |
156 |
Rep. Bruun |
Questions the ethics of omitting Merchant Marines from HJM 25. |
167 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HJM 25. Opens a public hearing on HJM 17. |
HJM 17 – PUBLIC HEARING |
||
175 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HJM 17, urges Congress to exempt from federal income taxation income received by taxpayer while taxpayer serves in combat zone. |
177 |
Chair Nelson |
Expresses support for HJM 17. |
182 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HJM 17. |
The following written material is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
||
|
Mike Sullivan |
Lobbyist, Association of Western Pulp and Paper Workers. Submits Disabled American Veterans News Release on Veterans’ Issues (EXHIBIT P). |
|
Jennifer Vina |
Public Information Representative, Oregon Department of Veterans’ Affairs (ODVA). Submits Oregon Veteran Population Chart (EXHIBIT Q). |
305 |
Chair Nelson |
Adjourns the meeting at 10:27 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
The following material is submitted for the record without public testimony: