HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
VETERANS' AFFAIRS
April 26, 2005 Hearing Room C
8:30 A.M. Tapes 80 - 82
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Donna Nelson, Chair
Rep. Phil Barnhart, Vice-Chair
Rep. Debi Farr, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Betty Komp
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Stembridge, Committee Administrator
Erin Seiler, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HJM 32 – Public Hearing
HJM 33 - Public Hearing
HJM 9 – Public Hearing
HJM 14 – Public Hearing
HJM 34 – Public Hearing
HB 2932 – Public Hearing and Work Session
HB 3053 – Work Session
HB 2677 – Work Session
HB 3331 – Public Hearing
HB 3333 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 80, A |
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002 |
Chair Nelson |
Opens the meeting at 8:43 a.m. |
015 |
Chair Nelson |
Submits and summarizes written testimony on behalf Wes Carter on Veterans’ Issues (EXHIBIT A). |
134 |
Chair Nelson |
Opens a public hearing on HJM 32 and HJM 33. |
HJM 32/HJM 33 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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136 |
Rep. Jeff Kropf |
House District 17. Submits and summarizes written testimony in support of HJM 32 (EXHIBIT B). |
180 |
Rep. Kropf |
Submits and summarizes written testimony in support of HJM 33 (EXHIBIT C). |
242 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HJM 32 and HJM 33. Opens a public hearing on HJM 9, HJM 14, and HJM 34. |
HJM 9/HJM 14/HJM 34 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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250 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HJM 9, which urges Congress to pass legislation giving families of reservists’ health insurance coverage when reservist is called or ordered into active duty. Explains HJM 14, which urges Congress to fund health care for veterans without increase co-payments and user fees. Explains HJM 34, which urges Congress to pass National Guard and Reserve Bill of Rights Act of 2005 giving reservists right to quality, affordable health care. |
273 |
Rep. Boquist |
Verifies that the Department of Defense is in the process of implementing a health insurance program for families of deployed Reservists. |
278 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HJM 9. |
280 |
Chair Nelson |
Expresses concern that mental, dental, and visual insurance coverage are not included in the language of HJM 14. |
315 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Notes the significant amount of testimony heard on the need for adequate funding for health, dental, and mental care for veterans. |
322 |
Kevin O’Reilly |
Government Relations/Advocacy Director, Oregon Paralyzed Veterans of America. Testifies in support of HJM 14. |
363 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HJM 14. |
370 |
Stembridge |
Explains that there is federal legislation pending to establish a National Guard and Reserve Bill of Rights. |
390 |
O’Reilly |
Testifies in support of HJM 34. |
TAPE 81, A |
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002 |
Rep. Hunt |
Verifies that the National Guard and Reserves Bill of Rights does include issues beyond healthcare. |
006 |
Rep. Hunt |
Suggests a possible amendment to HJM 34. |
011 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HJM 34. Opens the public hearing and work session on HB 2932. |
HB 2932 – PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION |
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013 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2932, which is relating to veterans. Submits and summaries -1 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
033 |
Mac MacDonald |
Representative, Veterans’ Organizations. Testifies in support of HB 2932. |
041 |
Paula Brown |
Deputy Director, Oregon Department of Veterans’ Affairs (ODVA). Testifies in support of HB 2932. |
068 |
Rep. Bruun |
Asks if HB 2932 would change, in any way, the current operations and administrative procedures of ODVA. |
070 |
Brown |
Replies that HB 2932 would not change current administrative practices at ODVA. |
073 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if language in -1 amendments is parallel to the language that is used to establish other departments. |
078 |
Brown |
Expresses uncertainty about whether the language parallels that of other department. |
079 |
Rep. Hunt |
Asks if the language relating to the director’s authority is the same language used to establish the oversight authority of other departments. |
083 |
Brown |
Confirms that that is the assumption. |
085 |
Rep. Farr |
Asks if there is a fiscal attached to HB 2932. |
089 |
Brown |
States that the any fiscal impact is related to minor administrative costs that will not have “a huge impact.” |
103 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Comments on how, by statute, the ODVA will not exist until HB 2932 are signed by the Governor. |
127 |
Rep. Barnhart |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2932-1 amendments dated 04/20/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
130 |
Rep. Barnhart |
MOTION: Moves HB 2932 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. REP. NELSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
149 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing and work session on HB 2932. Opens the work session on HB 3053. |
HB 3053 – WORK SESSION |
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154 |
Jim Stembridge |
Explains HB 3053, which establishes Oregon Troops to Teachers program within Oregon Student Assistance Program. Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT E). |
168 |
Rep. Komp |
Explains why the amendments are necessary for HB 3053. |
202 |
Rep. Bruun |
Speaks to why Merchant Marines should be included as eligible participants in Troops to Teachers program. |
213 |
Stembridge |
Notes that HB 3053 has a subsequent referral to House Education, who could amend the bill to include Merchant Marines. |
223 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Questions whether Merchant Marines involved in transportation support for military combat operations are eligible to participate in Troops to Teachers program. |
236 |
Jack LaBox |
Representative, American Legion. Explains that Merchant Marines are not members of the military and do not have any military status. |
253 |
Rep. Farr |
States concern regarding the omission of Merchant Marines will be addressed by the House Education Committee. |
259 |
Rep. Barnhart |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 3053-1 amendments dated 04/12/05. |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 |
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Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
269 |
Rep. Barnhart |
MOTION: Moves HB 3053 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Education by prior reference. |
278 |
Rep. Komp |
Points out that all members of the committee will be added as sponsors of HB 3053. |
290 |
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VOTE: 7-0-0 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
291 |
Chair Nelson |
Speaks to the success of the Oregon Military Departments Youth Challenge Program in Bend, Oregon. |
365 |
Rep. Hunt |
Affirms the significance of the Youth Challenge Program. |
TAPE 80, B |
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020 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 3053. Opens the work session on HB 2677. |
HB 2677 – WORK SESSION |
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026 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2677, which creates Oregon National Guard Life Insurance Reimbursement Program and Oregon National Guard Life Insurance Reimbursement Program Fund. |
052 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Explains that OMD estimates the cost of life insurance will be $16.25 dollars per month at an average deployment of 18 months per soldiers. |
059 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks how many Oregon National Guard members are currently deployed. |
060 |
Caldwell |
Identifies how many Oregon National Guard are currently deployed on 18 month tours. |
074 |
Chair Nelson |
Comments that fiscal impact statement is based on current deployment. |
080 |
Caldwell |
Points out that fiscal estimate needs to take into account the 1,000 Oregon National Guard soldiers “in queue” for deployment in 2006. |
095 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks whether an individual convicted of a felony can continue to serve in Oregon National Guard. |
104 |
Caldwell |
Explains what the repercussions would be for an Oregon National Guard soldier who is convicted of a crime. |
118 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks how many Oregon National Guard members have died in Iraq. |
120 |
Caldwell |
Confirms that ten soldiers have died in Iraq. |
123 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks whether HB 2677 should be made retroactive to include the ten soldiers who have died. |
139 |
Rep. Boquist |
Explains that there is a supplemental life insurance package being considered at the federal level and questions whether HB 2677 should go forward only as a “back stop” measure. |
170 |
Caldwell |
Notes that all the soldiers who have died have full life insurance and supplemental insurance through OMD. |
182 |
Rep. Hunt |
Expresses concern over the potential cost of HB 2677, questioning if, given the limited amount of available funds, this program meets the unmet needs of soldiers and if resources should be directed elsewhere. |
198 |
Caldwell |
Comments that life insurance is important, but it is “not going to be in the top three on their wish list.” |
222 |
Chair Nelson |
Points out that HB 2677 is part of The Governor’s Military package. |
252 |
Mac MacDonald |
Representative, Veterans’ Organization. Testifies that HB 2677 needs to include Reserve soldiers. |
260 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks how many Reserve soldiers have died in Iraq. |
264 |
Caldwell |
Confirms the death of three Reservists in Iraq. |
275 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2677. Opens the public hearing on HB 3331. |
HB 3331 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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282 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 3331, which increases pay and allowances of Adjutant General and Assistant Adjutants General. Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT F). |
290 |
Rep. Jeff Kropf |
House District 17. Submits and summarize written testimony in support of HB 3331 (EXHIBIT G). Submits 2005 Military Pay Charts (EXHIBIT H). |
335 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Explains the military pay system. |
370 |
Rep. Kropf |
Notes that HB 3331 has a subsequent referral to Ways and Means. |
372 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks how the pay rate of OMD compares to neighboring states. |
375 |
Caldwell |
Explains how Oregon pay compares to neighboring states. |
TAPE 81, B |
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015 |
Chair Nelson |
Verifies that OMD budget did not include 3.5 percent pay rise for staff. |
018 |
Caldwell |
States OMD personnel budget remains frozen. |
028 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks what the pay rate is for Adjutant General in other Western states. |
050 |
Rep. Kropf |
Compares the pay schedules of the Adjutant General in Oregon to those in Colorado, Arizona, and, California. |
057 |
Rep. Boquist |
Asks what the pay is for Adjutant General, Assistant-Adjutant General, and how many “management days” are available to General Officers. |
060 |
Caldwell |
Lists the salaries of the Adjutant General and Assistant-Adjutant General for the OMD and how many “management days” are available to General Officers. |
071 |
Rep. Boquist |
Clarifies how many individual drill days available to a soldier. |
080 |
Chair Nelson |
Verifies that the Adjutant General and Assistant-Adjutant General are a part of the Public Employee Retirement System (PERS). |
094 |
Caldwell |
Explains how the size of the Oregon National Guard compares to Washington and California. |
101 |
Rep. Komp |
Asks how many soldiers the Adjutant General supervises. |
105 |
Caldwell |
Identifies that the Adjutant General supervises 8,000 total people. |
111 |
Rep. Komp |
Comments on the inequity in salary of the Adjutant General compared to a middle school principal. |
123 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks if the Assistant-Adjutant General and Deputy Adjutant General is the same person. |
125 |
Caldwell |
Clarifies the difference between Deputy to the Adjutant General and Assistant-Adjutant General. |
146 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Asks if grade-of-pay for Adjutant General and Assistant-Adjutant Generals limits OMD ability to recruit individuals for these positions. |
148 |
Caldwell |
Explains why grade-of-pay does not “generally effect” recruitment. |
171 |
Rep. Barnhart |
Confirms that a General Officer would take a pay cut to become Adjutant General. |
178 |
Rep. Kropf |
Explains that the intention of HB 3331 is “really just matter of equity.” |
196 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3331. Opens the public hearing on HB 3333. |
HB 3333 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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198 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 3333, which creates Wounded Soldier Relief Program in Oregon Military Department. |
200 |
Rep. Jeff Kropf |
House District 17. Submits and summarizes written testimony in support of HB 3333 (EXHIBIT I). |
237 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks what type of the injury soldier would to incur to access to funds from the Wounded Soldier Relief Program. |
245 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Explains how combat wounds are adjudicated by the OMD. |
272 |
Rep. Kropf |
Explains the purpose of HB 3333. |
290 |
Chair Nelson |
Explains why definition of veteran needs to be changed in HB 3333. |
312 |
Caldwell |
Recommends removing language related to definition of veteran. |
352 |
Rep. Kropf |
States willingness to draft amendments to HB 3333. |
365 |
Chair Nelson |
Comments on the need to proceed with caution because of the similarities between HB 3333 and other veteran-related bills. |
386 |
Rep. Kropf |
States that the HB 3333 is for wounded soldiers, not for veterans. |
TAPE 82, A |
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001 |
Caldwell |
Praises the work of Rep. Kropf on behalf of Oregon soldiers. |
027 |
Rep. Kropf |
Addresses effects to raise funds for the Oregon soldiers and the Afghan/Iraqi Freedom Memorial. |
063 |
Lieutenant Peter Wood |
Soldier, Oregon National Guard. Speaks to tour of duty in Iraq |
085 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on HB 3333. Adjourns the meeting at 10:40 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY