HOUSE COMMITTEE ON

VETERANS' AFFAIRS

 

 

May 3, 2005 Hearing Room C

8:30 A.M.  Tapes 86 - 87

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:            Rep. Donna Nelson, Chair

Rep. Phil Barnhart, Vice-Chair

Rep. Debi Farr, Vice-Chair

Rep. Brian Boquist

Rep. Scott Bruun

Rep. Dave Hunt

Rep. Betty Komp

 

STAFF PRESENT:                  Jim Stembridge, Committee Administrator

Erin Seiler, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:

HB 2681 – Work Session

HB 2862 – Work Session

HCR 9 – Public Hearing and Work Session

HB 2864 – Work Session

HJM 25 – Work Session

HB 2700 – Public Hearing and Work Session

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 86, A

002

Chair Nelson

Opens the meeting at 8:42 a.m. Opens the work session HB 2681.

HB 2681 – WORK SESSION

033

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2681, which requires school district to issue high school diploma upon request to veteran who served in United States Armed Forces during specified war or was present in specified operations if veteran attended high school before serving in Armed Forces, did not complete high school because of service in Armed Forces and was discharged or released under honorable conditions from Armed Forces.  Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT A). Submits and summarizes -3 amendments (EXHIBIT B).

053

Rep. Barnhart

Explains the purpose of -1 amendments and -3 amendments.

084

Rep. Barnhart

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB  2681-3 amendments dated 04/27/05.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Nelson

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

092

Rep. Barnhart

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2681-1 amendments dated 03/22/05.

108

Chair Nelson

Clarifies how  -1 amendments change HB 2681.

113

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Nelson

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

115

Rep. Barnhart

MOTION:  Moves HB 2681 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Nelson

The motion CARRIES.

131

Chair Nelson

Closes the work session on HB 2681. Opens the work session on HB 2862.

HB 2862 – WORK SESSION

139

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2862, which directs public post-secondary education institutions to award credit for education and training obtained while serving in Armed Forces of United States. Submits and summarize -1 amendments (EXHIBIT C). Submits and summarizes  -2 amendments. (EXHIBIT D).

157

Chair Nelson

Clarifies the difference between  -1 amendments and -2 amendments.  

173

Stembridge

Submits Oregon University System Veterans Academic Resource List (EXHIBIT E).

183

Rep. Boquist

Confirms that -2 amendments direct the Chancellors’ Office to establish the standards for the Oregon University System for awarding academic credit to veterans’.

200

Rep. Bruun

Asks if -1 amendments and -2 amendments are competing amendments.

205

Stembridge

Clarifies what the difference is between the -1 amendments and -2 amendments.

213

Cindy Hunt

Senior Deputy, Office of the Legislative Counsel. Explains that “shall” directs community colleges to give credit and “may” makes it optional for community colleges to give credit for education and training.

225

Rep. Boquist

Verifies that “shall” places a mandate on community colleges to give credit.

231

Rep. Barnhart

Questions whether keeping the word “shall” does prevent local community college boards from adopting “unreasonable standards” for giving credit.  

242

C. Hunt

Confirms that maintaining the word  “shall” prevents community college boards from adopting standards that would not give any credit.

250

Rep. Barnhart

Questions how changing the language from “shall” to “may” would affect community college boards’ ability to set credit standards.

253

C. Hunt

Explains that current law gives community colleges the discretion to set the standards for awarding academic credit for military training.

264

Rep. Boquist

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HB 2862-2 amendments dated 04/25/05.

270

Rep. Barnhart

Objects to adopting -2 amendments.

275

Rep. Boquist

Points out how community colleges have done an  “exceptionally good job” assisting veterans and should be given the latitude to adopt independent standards for awarding credit.  

288

Chair Nelson

Acknowledges the efforts of community colleges on behalf of veterans and states willingness to support -2 amendments despite displeasure with the language.

297

Rep. Farr

Verifies that even if -2 amendments were adopted, community colleges would not have the latitude to adopt standards that prevented awarding any credit.

303

C. Hunt

Confirms that  -2 amendment prevent community college boards from adopting standards that prevent awarding any credit to soldiers.

310

Rep. Hunt

Concurs that community colleges should be given latitude to set individual standards.

327

Rep. Komp

Speaks in support of adopting -2 amendments.

360

Rep. Barnhart

Withdraws objection to the motion to adopt -2 amendments.

365

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Nelson

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

366

Rep. Boquist

MOTION:  Moves HB 2862 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means  BE RESCINDED.

370

Rep. Hunt

Verifies that permission has been given to rescind subsequent referral to Ways and Means.

397

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Nelson

The motion CARRIES.

REP. BOQUIST will lead discussion on the floor.

TAPE 87, B

007

Chair Nelson

Closes the work session on HB 2862.

049

Chair Nelson

Opens the public hearing and work session on HCR 9.

HCR 9 – PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION

051

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator. Explains HCR 9, which recognizes June 14 of each year as “Honor Our Troops Day.” Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT F).

070

Chair Nelson

Reads -1 amendments to HCR 9.

128

Fred Schaffer

Chairman, Oregon State Chapter of Atomic Veterans. Testifies in support of HCR 9.

184

Schaffer

Speaks to personal experience as a veteran and efforts to identify other Atomic Veterans.

200

Rep. Farr

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HCR 9-1 amendments dated 05/02/05.

209

Rep. Barnhart

Confirms that other states have adopted the same date for recognizing Atomic veterans.

215

Rep. Boquist

Points out the high number of Oregonians who were involved in Hiroshima and affected by Atomic testing.   

248

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Nelson

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

250

Rep. Farr

MOTION:  Moves HCR  9 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Nelson

The motion CARRIES.

REP. KROPF will lead discussion on the floor.

286

Chair Nelson

Closes the public hearing and work session on HCR 9. Opens the work session on HB 2864.

HB 2864 – WORK SESSION

301

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator. HB 2864, which creates Veterans’ Discharge Stipend Program to provide temporary income to veterans when discharged from active federal service. Submits and summarize   -1 amendments (EXHIBIT G).

329

Rep. Boquist

Asks if HB 2864 is first or second bill with a specific dollar amount attached to it.

332

Stembridge

Identifies all the committee measures with specific fiscal requirements.

355

Chair Nelson

Explains the purpose of  the Veterans’ Discharge Stipend Program.

379

Rep. Hunt

Asks whether the bill defines veteran using current statutory language or if new definition has been substituted.

395

Rep. Boquist

Points out the need for an amendment with new definition of veteran because the existing statutory definition of veteran is used in the text of the bill and -1 amendments.

TAPE 86, B

001

Chair Nelson

Closes the work session on HB 2864.

017

Chair Nelson

Opens the work session on HJM 25.

HJM 25 – WORK SESSION

020

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator. Explains HJM 25, which urges Congress to eliminate practice of subtracting disability payments from pension amounts due to disabled veterans regardless of level of disability.   Submits and summarizes -1 amendments (EXHIBIT H).

039

Rep. Bruun

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT HJM 25-1 amendments dated 4/29/05.

040

Kevin O’Reilly

Government Relations/Advocacy Director, Oregon Paralyzed Veterans of America. Submits written testimony on behalf of Jerry Ryan in support of HJM 25 (EXHIBIT H).

041

Chair Nelson

Summarizes written testimony of Jerry Ryan (EXHIBIT I).

059

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

 

Chair Nelson

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

062

Rep. Bruun

MOTION:  Moves HJM 25 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  7-0-0

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

 

Chair Nelson

The motion CARRIES.

REP. BRUUN will lead discussion on the floor.

072

Chair Nelson

Closes the work session on HJM 25. Opens the public hearing and work session on HB 2700.

HB 2700 – PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION

079

Jim Stembridge

Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2700, which directs Director of Veterans’ Affairs to establish Veterans’ Service Officer Expansion Program. Submits and summarizes -3 amendments (EXHIBIT J). Submits and summarize -4 amendments (EXHIBIT K).

111

Bill Penhollow

Assistant Executive Director, Association of Oregon Counties. Testifies in support of  HB 2700.

118

Tim Josi

President, Association of Oregon Counties. Submits and summarizes written testimony in support of HB 2700 (EXHIBIT L).

177

Josi

Explains why AOC does not support -3 amendments.

239

Rep. Farr

Verifies that the problem AOC has is with “the maintenance of effort“ and states that the goal is to increase the funding of County Veterans’ Service Officers.  

262

Rep. Brad Witt

House District 31. Testifies in support of HB 2700 and -4 amendments.

327

Rep. Farr

Reads from -3 amendments as evidence that a county can adjust the budget for the County Veterans’ Service Officer budget if there is a decrease in revenue.

349

Rep. Farr

Questions why AOC objects to the language relating to “maintenance of effort” if there is no reason, other then loss revenue, that County Veterans’ Service Officer positions would not be fully funded.

363

Josi

States that AOC “just does not want it in statute.”

371

Chair Nelson

Submits and summarizes written testimony on behalf of Mark Behnke in support of HB 2681 (EXHIBIT M).

TAPE 87, B

027

Chair Nelson

Closes the public hearing and work session on HB 2700. Adjourns the meeting at 10:05 a.m.

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. HB 2681, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  2. HB 2681, -3 amendments, staff, 3 pp
  3. HB 2862, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  4. HB 2862, -2 amendments, staff, 1 p
  5. HB 2862, Oregon University System Veterans Academic Resource List, staff, 3 pp
  6. HCR 9, -1 amendments, staff, 2 pp
  7. HB 2864, -1 amendments, staff, 2 pp
  8. HJM 25, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  9. HJM 25, written testimony of Jerry Ryan, Kevin O’Reilly, 1 p
  10. HB 2700, -3 amendments, staff, 5 pp
  11. HB 2700, -4 amendments, staff, 4 pp
  12. HB 2700, written testimony, Tim Josi, 4 pp
  13. HB 2681, written testimony of Mark Behnke, Donna Nelson, 2 pp