HOUSE COMMITTEE ON
VETERANS' AFFAIRS
May 12, 2005 Hearing Room C
8:30 A.M. Tapes 94 - 95
Corrected 10/17/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rep. Donna Nelson, Chair
Rep. Debi Farr, Vice-Chair
Rep. Brian Boquist
Rep. Scott Bruun
Rep. Dave Hunt
Rep. Betty Komp
MEMBER EXCUSED: Rep. Phil Barnhart, Vice-Chair
STAFF PRESENT: Jim Stembridge, Committee Administrator
Erin Seiler, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
HB 2861 – Work Session
HB 2864 – Work Session
HCR 14 – Work Session
HB 2677 – Work Session
HB 2700 – Work Session
HB 2843 – Work Session
HB 3413 – Work Session
SB 486 – Public Hearing
SB 575A – Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
TAPE 94, A |
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002 |
Chair Nelson |
Opens the meeting at 8:37 a.m. Opens a work session on HB 2861. |
HB 2861 – WORK SESSION |
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022 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administer. Explains HB 2861, which requires Director of Veterans’ Affairs to establish program to provide grants to veterans for temporary housing. |
028 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2861. Opens a work session on HB 2864. |
HB 2864 – WORK SESSION |
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033 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HB 2864, which creates Veterans’ Discharge Stipend Program to provide temporary income to veterans when discharged from active federal service. Submits and summarizes -2 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
069 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Explains the average length of federal active duty. |
089 |
Chair Nelson |
Addresses the importance of preventing conflict between emergency assistance for veterans and for active duty soldiers. |
102 |
Rep. Boquist |
States that amendment was necessary to insert the new definition of veteran into bill. |
112 |
Chair Nelson |
Questions whether it is necessary to have language stipulating that temporary income funds should only be awarded to soldiers discharged under honorable conditions. |
121 |
Rep. Boquist |
Points out those soldiers discharged under dishonorable conditions do not qualify for veteran’s status or benefits. |
133 |
Caldwell |
Affirms that the language is correct and without conflict. |
150 |
Rep. Nelson |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT HB 2864-2 amendments dated 05/04/05. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
155 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 2864 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the committee on Budget. |
181 |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
185 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2864. Opens a work session on HCR 14. |
HCR 14 – WORK SESSION |
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1190 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains HCR 14, which recognizes June 14, 2005, as “Honor Our Oregon National Guard Day.” |
198 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Identifies December 13 as the appropriate date to honor the Oregon National Guard. |
219 |
Rep. Bruun |
Recommends deletion of the specific number of OMD soldiers who have been killed in combat. |
248 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves to AMEND HCR 14 on page 1, in line 8, after "Whereas," insert "gallant," and on page 1, in line 10, after "Whereas," insert "gallant," and on page 1, in line 17, after "designate," insert "December 13 of every year". |
255 |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
256 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves HCR 14 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation. |
277 |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. REP. NELSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
284 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HCR 14. Opens a work session on HB 2677, HB 2700, HB 2843, and HB 3413. |
HB 2677/HB 2700/HB 2843/ HB 3413 –WORK SESSION |
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307 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains the procedure for reconsideration of HB 2677, HB 2700, HB 2843, and HB 3413. |
322 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves to SUSPEND the rules for the purpose of RECONSIDERING HB 2677, HB 2700, HB 2843, and HB 3413. |
330 |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
355 |
Rep. Bruun |
MOTION: Moves to RECONSIDER HB 2677, HB 2700, HB 2843, and HB 3413. |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
382 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 2677 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the committee on Budget. |
397 |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
400 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 2700 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the committee on Budget. |
TAPE 95, A |
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001 |
Rep. Hunt |
Objects to motion. |
008 |
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VOTE: 4-1-2 AYE: 4 - Boquist, Bruun, Komp, Nelson NAY: 1 - Hunt EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
010 |
Rep. Boquist |
MOTION: Moves HB 2843 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the committee on Budget. |
017 |
Chair Nelson |
Recesses the meeting at 9:04 a.m. |
018 |
Chair Nelson |
Reconvenes the meeting at 9:11 a.m. |
019 |
Stembridge |
Confirms that -2 amendments had been adopted. |
032 |
Rep. Hunt |
Objects to motion. |
037 |
Rep. Farr |
Asks for verification of the testimony received from the Oregon Military Department (OMD) and the Oregon Department of Veterans’ Affairs (ODVA). |
040 |
Chair Nelson |
Confirms that OMD and ODVA are in support of HB 2843. |
058 |
Rep. Boquist |
Speaks in support of HB 2843. |
088 |
Chair Nelson |
Cites existing statute relating to the obligation of soldiers to pay business license fees. |
094 |
Rep. Boquist |
States that the goal is for soldiers to return home and have employment. |
108 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, OMD. Summarizes the impact that indefinite deployment has on businesses owned by soldiers. |
146 |
Rep. Hunt |
Identifies several reasons why the broad language of the bill would cause the cost of the program to be fiscally unrealistic for state and local governments. |
163 |
Chair Nelson |
Suggests that the bill can be amended so that a free license is a one time event. |
174 |
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VOTE: 5-1-1 AYE: 5 - Boquist, Bruun, Farr, Komp, Nelson NAY: 1 - Hunt EXCUSED: 1 - Barnhart |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
177 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves HB 3413 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED and BE REFERRED to the committee on Budget. |
191 |
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VOTE: 6-0-1 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 1 - Barnhart |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. |
193 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on HB 2677, HB 2700, HB 2843, and HB 3413. Opens a public hearing on SB 486. |
SB 486 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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200 |
Jim Stembridge |
Committee Administrator. Explains SB 486, which extends tuition waiver program of Oregon Military Department to surviving family members of members of Oregon National Guard killed while on active duty. |
217 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Testifies in support of SB 486. |
260 |
Rep. Boquist |
Clarifies that tuition waiver program is one already administered by OMD and SB 486 is just an extension of the existing program. |
265 |
Rep. Hunt |
Questions whether the education program will continue to be fully funded by the federal government when it is adjusted to 100 percent for Oregon National Guard soldiers. |
270 |
Caldwell |
Clarifies the difference between the education funding under the G.I Bill and State of Oregon. |
314 |
Chair Nelson |
Verifies that tuition waivers can be used for trade schools. |
377 |
Rep. Boquist |
Verifies that the implementation language parallels the federal statute. |
394 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on SB 486. Opens a work session on SB 575A. |
TAPE 94, B |
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SB 575A – WORK SESSION |
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001 |
Senator Richard Devlin |
Senate District 19. Testifies in support of SB 575A. |
060 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks if Oregon Reservists could be included as eligible participants. |
064 |
Sen. Devlin |
Explains how relating clause limits applicability to Oregon National Guard, noting the possibility of having a conforming bill to make all military bills applicable to all soldiers. |
073 |
Rep. Boquist |
Expresses appreciation to Sen. Devlin for efforts on behalf of veterans’. |
077 |
Sen. Devlin |
States why benefits and rights should be applicable to all Oregon soldiers. |
087 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Testifies in support of SB 575A. |
094 |
Mac MacDonald |
Representative, Veterans’ Organizations. Testifies in support of SB 575A. |
105 |
Jack LaBox |
Representative, American Legion. Testifies in support of SB 575A. |
118 |
Harley Ray |
Legislative Chair, American Legion. Testifies in support of SB 575A. |
129 |
David McDonald |
Director of Enrollment and Student Services, Oregon University System. Submits and summarizes written testimony in support of SB 575 A (EXHIBIT B). |
149 |
Bob Duehmig |
Government Relations Representative, Oregon Health Sciences University (OHSU). Submits and summaries written testimony in support of SB 575A (EXHIBIT C). |
155 |
Julie Suchanek |
Legislative Advocate, Oregon Community Colleges Association (OCCA). Submits and summarizes written testimony in support of SB 575A (EXHIBIT D). |
171 |
Rep. Hunt |
MOTION: Moves SB 575A to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
182 |
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VOTE: 5-0-2 AYE: In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye. EXCUSED: 2 - Barnhart, Farr |
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Chair Nelson |
The motion CARRIES. REP. KOMP will lead discussion on the floor. |
188 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the work session on SB 575A. Reopens a public hearing on SB 486. |
SB 486 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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197 |
Mac MacDonald |
Representative, Veterans’ Organizations. Stresses the importance of extending waivers to all widows of members of the Armed Forces. |
216 |
Rep. Farr |
Points out that the waver is specifically for Oregon residents and relates only too educationally institutions in Oregon. |
224 |
Rep. Hunt |
Questions whether it is a reasonable approach to have a confirming bill to extend all benefits passed for Oregon National Guard soldiers and their family to all Oregon soldiers. |
249 |
Chair Nelson |
Explains why a specific service period needs to be set. |
264 |
Colonel Mike Caldwell |
Deputy Director, Oregon Military Department (OMD). Explains why OMD deliberately designed the bill to apply only to Oregon National Guard soldiers. |
293 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks what the OMD oversees. |
295 |
Caldwell |
Explains that OMD is the legal entity that manages the Oregon National Guard. |
300 |
Chair Nelson |
Asks whether there are other state services that would work under the OMD other than the Oregon National Guard. |
319 |
Rep. Boquist |
Identifies the difficulties of including Reservists in program. |
333 |
Paula Brown |
Deputy Director, Oregon Department of Veterans’ Affairs (ODVA). Suggests that Oregon University System administer the educational waiver program for Oregon Reservists. |
345 |
Caldwell |
Explains how OMD is able to validate only the applications of Oregon National Guard soldiers applying for educational assistance from the Oregon Student Assistance Commission. |
366 |
Chair Nelson |
Closes the public hearing on SB 486. Adjourns the meeting at 10:04 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY