SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE
February 17, 2005 Hearing Room C
3:10 P.M. Tapes 17 - 18
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Floyd Prozanski, Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick
Sen. Doug Whitsett
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Charlie Ringo
STAFF PRESENT: Anna Braun, Committee Administrator
Karen Scoffield, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 118 – Public Hearing
SB 459 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 17, A |
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005 |
Chair Prozanski |
Calls the meeting to order at 3:14 p.m. Opens public hearing on SB 118 and SB 459. |
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SB 118, SB 459 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 118. |
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020 |
Cory Streisinger |
Director, Department of Consumer and Business Services (DCBS). Testifies in support of SB 118. Discusses the many calls received by DCBS concerning homeowners insurance. Tells of the public forums held by DCBS on homeowners insurance. |
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045 |
Joel Ario |
Insurance Administrator, DCBS. Discusses and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A), Homeowner Bill of Rights informational brochure (EXHIBIT B), and Homeowner Bills of Rights conceptual overview (EXHIBIT C) in support of SB 118. |
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075 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks for clarification of exhibits that Ario is referring to. |
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085 |
Ario |
Answers question. Discusses and submits proposed amendments by DCBS to SB 118 (EXHIBIT D). |
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110 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies amendments that are currently written for SB 118. |
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115 |
Ario |
Discusses numbers 1 through 4 of written testimony. |
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180 |
Ario |
Continues and discusses numbers 5 through 7 of written testimony. |
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275 |
Ario |
Discusses numbers 8 and 9 of written testimony. |
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345 |
Ario |
Summarizes and concludes. Discusses number 10 of written testimony. |
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380 |
Chair Prozanski |
Invites Sen. Deckert and his constituent, Kenneth Evansen to the stand. Converses with Sen. Deckert regarding testimony. |
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425 |
Sen. Deckert |
Senate District 14. Introduces constituent, Kenneth Evansen. Discusses and submits and written testimony in support of SB 459 (EXHIBIT E). |
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430 |
Kenneth Evansen |
Citizen, Portland, Oregon. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 459 (EXHIBIT F). Discusses suggestion for mandatory notification process of changes to customer’s insurance policies. |
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TAPE 18, A |
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035 |
Evansen |
Continues to testify to support of SB 459. Discusses personal experience with having an insurance policy cancelled on him. |
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065 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks DCBS a question regarding EXHIBIT D. |
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075 |
Ario |
Answers question. |
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080 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks a question regarding number 4 in Ario’s testimony. |
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090 |
Ario |
Answers question. Refers to page 4 of EXHIBIT A. |
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100 |
Chair Prozanski |
Notes that the item being discussed is on page 14, section 5 line 26(c) of SB 459. |
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105 |
Whitsett |
Discusses a possible scenario and asks Ario a question regarding it. |
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110 |
Ario |
Answers question. |
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135 |
Sam Sorich |
Vice President, Property Casualty Insurers Association of America (PCI). Discusses and submits written testimony in opposition to SB 118 (EXHIBIT G). |
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180 |
Sorich |
Remarks that the bill considers that all insurance companies consider all claims in the same way. |
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270 |
Sorich |
Continues. Discusses previous testimony from Ario. Discusses customer inquiries. |
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290 |
Dan Boone |
Claim Manager, Allstate, Tigard, Oregon. Testifies in opposition to SB 118. Discusses denied claims. |
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375 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks Sorich for clarification about the approximate number of homeowners insurance policies in Oregon. |
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380 |
Sorich |
Estimates that there are 1 million policies. |
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385 |
Whitsett |
Comments regarding the statistics provided by Sorich. Inquires regarding the complaints mentioned by Sorich and if he knows how many of the complaints resulted in some sanction to the insurance company. |
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390 |
Sorich |
Answers the he does not know whether the complaints were justified at all. |
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395 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks Boone about an example he provided of someone traveling with valuables and how they would see an individual as a risk. |
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410 |
Boone |
Answers question. |
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415 |
Chair Prozanski |
Inquires what Allstate would anticipate people do with their valuables when traveling. |
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420 |
Boone |
Answers question. Remarks that Allstate did not deny the claim previously discussed, but asked for proof of the claim and the insured chose not to pursue the claim. |
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425 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks Sorich regarding the number of insurance organizations that are in PCI. |
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430 |
Sorich |
Answers that 300 of PCI’s member companies do business in the state of Oregon and 69 of the member companies write homeowners insurance in Oregon. |
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435 |
Chair Prozanski |
Inquires if other states have provisions limiting look back regarding homeowners insurance. |
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TAPE 17, B |
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030 |
Sorich |
Answers that few companies look back beyond five (5) years. Discusses the importance of having competition in the marketplace and the ability to have a variety of underwriting practices. |
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040 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks if companies provide to the policy holders or prospective policy holders how far they look back. |
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041 |
Sorich |
Answers question. |
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050 |
Linda Gatto |
Citizen, Clackamas County, Oregon. Discusses and submits written testimony with a neutral position to SB 118 (EXHIBIT H). Discusses personal experience with homeowners insurance company. |
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100 |
Linda Schwerzler |
Citizen, Eugene, Oregon. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 118 (EXHIBIT I). Discusses personal experience with homeowners insurance company. |
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170 |
Mickey Tate |
Program Coordinator, Seniors and People with Disabilities Department of Human Services (SPD). Discusses support of SB 118. Discuses the difficulty of the Adult Foster Home community to obtain liability insurance and also homeowners insurance. |
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200 |
Janet Arenz |
Executive Director, Oregon Alliance for Child Advocacy. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 118 (EXHIBIT J). Discusses desire to amend the bill. |
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255 |
Grover Simmons |
Independent Adult Foster Home Association. Submits written testimony without public testimony on behalf of Dixie Ellard (EXHIBIT K) and submits a notice of cancellation of insurance (EXHIBIT L). Discusses support of SB 118. |
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320 |
Steve Dixon |
Oregon State Public Interest Research Group, (OSPIRG). Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 118 (EXHIBIT M). |
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TAPE 18, B |
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010 |
Greg Ledbetter |
Service Employees International Union (SEIU). Discusses support of SB 118. Discusses concerns of members of SEIU regarding homeowners insurance and their desire to support SB 118. |
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065 |
Dixon |
Discusses look back issue. |
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080 |
Whitsett |
Inquires regarding the liability going with the owner and not the house. Discusses damage to homes that can be a problem even after things are fixed. |
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095 |
Dixon |
Responds and discusses parallels of homeowners insurance to the car insurance market. Discusses that the claim staying with the home puts homeowners in a double jeopardy. |
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105 |
Ledbetter |
Discusses mold and mitigation. Discusses concern of the bill dealing with mitigation and how to make sure it has been done. |
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120 |
Sen. Beyer |
Disagrees with Dixon’s relation of the parallels between homeowners insurance and auto insurance. Inquires where Ledbetter’s insurance knowledge comes from. |
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135 |
Ledbetter |
Answers question and discusses experience in insurance. |
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145 |
John Powell |
State Farm and Liberty NW. Testifies in opposition to SB 118 and SB 459. |
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170 |
Jack Munro |
American Insurance Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 118. |
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200 |
Angela Kimball |
Association of Oregon Community Mental Health Programs. Testifies in support of SB 118. Discusses the problems associated with obtaining community housing and placement. Remarks that the inability to gain insurance is causing some of their problems. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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Shirley Fichtner Dempsey |
Owner of an Adult Foster Home, Medford, Oregon. Submits written testimony in support of SB 118 (EXHIBIT N). |
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Linda Hawk |
Foster Care Provider. Submits written testimony in support of SB 118 (EXHIBIT O). |
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Lisa Hargis |
Vice President-Personal Lines, Oregon Mutual Insurance Group. Submits written testimony in opposition to SB 118 (EXHIBIT P). |
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225 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks individuals to take two weeks in a workgroup to resolve items discussed in the hearing. Closes public hearing on SB 118 and SB 459. Adjourns the meeting at 4:54 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY