SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE
March 01, 2005 Hearing Room C
3:10 P.M. Tapes 23 - 24
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Floyd Prozanski, Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: Anna Braun, Committee Administrator
Karen Scoffield, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 596 – Public Hearing
SB 426 – Public Hearing
SB 576 – Public Hearing
SB 142 – Public Hearing and Work Session SB 148 – Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 23, A |
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005 |
Chair Prozanski |
Calls the meeting to order at 3:20 p.m. Opens public hearing on SB 596. |
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SB 596 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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015 |
Sen. Morse |
Senate District 8. Discusses the Wage Security Fund and the intent of SB 596. Testifies in support of SB 596. |
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050 |
Chair Prozanski |
Recesses public hearing on SB 596 and opens public hearing on SB 426. |
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SB 426 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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060 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Gives an overview of SB 426. |
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070 |
Mary Botkin |
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME). Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 426 (EXHIBIT A). |
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105 |
Chair Prozanski |
Mentions the authorization card in EXHIBIT A and requests that the line requesting the social security number be taken off. |
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110 |
Botkin |
Remarks that they plan to do this as well as take off other items to help avoid identity theft. |
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115 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires if Botkin would condone electing political officials by collecting signed intent cards by fifty (50) percent of the population. |
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117 |
Botkin |
Responds. |
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120 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires what the difference would be. |
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123 |
Botkin |
Discusses response. |
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128 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires if Botkin would reject the idea of a free election where a ballot is signed in privacy. |
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130 |
Botkin |
Answers that this is voting to form a union, not to elect a public official. |
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133 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Responds that he is making an analogy to point out that if a private election if appropriate for political elections, it should be the same for union elections. |
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135 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments on Botkin’s testimony and inquires if SB 426 mandates what is now permissive in current law. |
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140 |
Botkin |
Answers, yes. |
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145 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires if the bill is necessary to mandate current law. |
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147 |
Braun |
Answers, yes that it makes a “may” a “shall.” |
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150 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires if SB 426 was amended to reverse it’s purpose, would it disband the union. |
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151 |
Botkin |
Answers, no. Discusses that one of their problems is that taxpayer’s money is spent by employers to fight union organizing. |
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165 |
Richard Schwarz |
Executive Director, American Federation of Teachers – Oregon. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 426 (EXHIBIT B). |
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280 |
Joe Schaeffer |
Service Employees International Union (SEIU). Testifies in support of SB 426. |
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325 |
Tricia Smith |
Government Relations Specialist, Oregon School Employees Association (OSEA). Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 426 (EXHIBIT C). |
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410 |
Matt Swanson |
Organizing Coordinator, Oregon American Federation of Labor Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO). Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 426 (EXHIBIT D). |
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TAPE 24, A |
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025 |
George Barry |
Labor Relations Administrator, City of Salem, Oregon. Discusses and submits written testimony in opposition to SB 426 (EXHIBIT E). |
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050 |
Ron Wilson |
Executive Director, Oregon School Board Association. Discusses and submits written testimony in opposition to SB 426 (EXHIBIT F). |
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100 |
Wilson |
Discusses bargaining units. Summarizes and concludes. |
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145 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires if Wilson feels that employees could be influenced by pro union peer pressure without a free secret ballot election. |
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150 |
Wilson |
Answers, yes. Comments that it is a definite possibility. |
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152 |
Chair Prozanski |
Inquires regarding no. 1 in Wilson’s testimony regarding local control. |
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160 |
Wilson |
Discusses response. |
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180 |
Chair Prozanski |
Remarks that he does not see from his perspective where they would gain or lose local control under this process, but maybe it is a difference of opinion. |
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183 |
Wilson |
Comments that perhaps it is a difference of opinion. Remarks that the ability to help construct who is in or out of the bargaining unit is a critical element of local control as far as they are concerned. |
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195 |
Tom O’Connor |
Canby Utility Board, Clackamas, County, Oregon. Testifies in opposition to SB 426. |
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230 |
John Powell |
Oregon State Sheriff’s Association. Comments that he has similar concerns to O’Connor in opposition to SB 426. |
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240 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes public hearing on SB 426 and reopens public hearing on SB 596. |
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SB 596 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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250 |
Dan Gardner |
Commissioner, Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI). Testifies in support of SB 596. Discusses the monetary status of the Wage Security Fund and the need for SB 596. |
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300 |
Marcia Ohlemiller |
Legal Policy Advisor, BOLI. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 596 (EXHIBIT G). Provides background to SB 596 and discusses current law. Discusses the ability of SB 596 to elevate the status of Wage Security Fund liens. |
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370 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires why labor liens should have priority over items such as goods and construction service liens. |
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375 |
Gardner |
Answers that labor liens are for employees who actually did the work and are the most affected. |
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385 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Comments that people that provided other material goods would feel differently. |
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390 |
Gardner |
Responds that material providers typically have other clients, whereas the employee works solely for that company and have no other source of income. |
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398 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Remarks that Gardner makes a valid point. |
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400 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes public hearing on 596 and opens public hearing on SB 576. |
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SB 576 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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420 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 576. |
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TAPE 23, B |
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010 |
Annette Talbott |
Deputy Commissioner, Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI). Submits written testimony on behalf of Dan Gardner in support of SB 576 (EXHIBIT H). Testifies in support of SB 576. |
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065 |
Martin Taylor |
Oregon Nurses Association. Testifies in support of SB 576. |
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095 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments that the language of SB 576 is not clear. |
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105 |
Talbott |
Comments that they want everyone to practice in their scope. Remarks that an amendment could easily be written. |
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110 |
Sen. Beyer |
Provides a suggestion of where to amend the language of SB 576. |
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120 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies Sen. Beyer’s concerns. |
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121 |
Sen. Beyer |
Responds. |
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130 |
Taylor |
Remarks that nurses often act under a delegated authority. |
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140 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Comments on the need to amend SB 576 to clarify that a registered nurse does not have the ability to diagnose and prescribe medication. |
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145 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks for clarification and for the amendment to be drafted. |
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160 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires regarding who signs paperwork regarding hospitalization. |
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165 |
Chair Prozanski |
Responds to Sen. Beyer’s question. |
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170 |
Talbott |
Remarks that in the case of hospitalization they still rely on the primary care provider because they need to know the nature of the condition of the patient. |
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175 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes public hearing on SB 576 and opens public hearing on SB 142. |
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SB 142 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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192 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 142. Introduces the -1 amendments to SB 142 (EXHIBIT I). |
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200 |
Dan Gardner |
Commissioner, Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI). Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 142 (EXHIBIT J). |
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225 |
Shani Fuller |
Manager, Policy, Rules and Legislative Section, Oregon Child Support Program - Department of Justice. Discusses and submits written testimony in neutrality to SB 142 (EXHIBIT K). |
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260 |
Sen. Burdick |
Inquires what employers do with money that is left over after paying wages. |
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265 |
Fuller |
Responds. |
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270 |
Sen. Burdick |
Asks if it is a crime if the money is kept. |
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275 |
Annette Talbott |
Deputy Commissioner, BOLI. Responds to Sen. Burdick’s comment. Corrects the statute in the second paragraph of EXHIBIT J. Changes the statute to ORS 25.424. |
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300 |
Sen. Burdick |
Discusses need of penalties for employers using the money for their own use. |
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303 |
Gardner |
Comments that due to budgeting this may be a lower priority for the District Attorney, whereas BOLI could remedy the situation faster by sending a letter. |
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312 |
Sen. Burdick |
Agrees. |
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315 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires regarding the civil penalty for violation. |
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318 |
Talbott |
Answers that it is only being proposed for this particular type of unlawful deduction. |
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322 |
Sen. Beyer |
Inquires why it is needed for this one and not the others. |
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325 |
Gardner |
Responds that they need it because it is really happening and they need the authority to assess a higher penalty to get the employer into compliance. |
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345 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments on previous testimony. |
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355 |
Chair Prozanski |
Responds to Beyer’s comments. |
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365 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments on disagreement of making one unlawful deduction to payroll more important than other deductions. |
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375 |
Gardner |
Remarks that it is a violation of a court order for an individual to not pay child support and other deductions are not a violation. |
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385 |
Matt Minahan |
Dads America. Testifies in support of SB 142. Discusses penalties associated with non payment of child support. |
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TAPE 24, B |
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010 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Inquires why a misappropriation of court ordered withholding would not constitute a contempt of court. |
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014 |
Chair Prozanski |
States understanding. |
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017 |
Sen. Ringo |
States opinion that it is contempt of court, but he doesn’t know how helpful it would be to an individual in this case. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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David A. Schuck |
Attorney, Bailey, Pinney & Associates, LLC. Submits written testimony in support of SB 142, recommending amendment (EXHIBIT L). |
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030 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes public hearing and open works session on SB 142. |
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SB 142 – WORK SESSION |
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032 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Discusses -1 amendments. |
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043 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 142-1 amendments dated 02/18/05. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Prozanski |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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047 |
Chair Prozanski |
Remarks that the committee is waiting on a final fiscal impact statement and will not move further on SB 142 at this time. Closes work session on SB 142 and opens work session on SB 148. |
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SB 148 – WORK SESSION |
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060 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Gives an overview of SB 148. Discusses previous testimony on SB 148. |
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070 |
Sen. Burdick |
Inquires if a fiscal impact statement has been issued. |
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073 |
Chair Prozanski |
Inquires regarding fiscal impact statement. |
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080 |
Braun |
Answers that a fiscal impact statement has been issued and there is no fiscal impact to SB 148. |
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085 |
Sen. Ringo |
MOTION: Moves SB 148 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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Sen. Ringo |
VOTE: 3-2-0 AYE: 3 - Burdick, Ringo, Prozanski NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett |
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Chair Prozanski |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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100 |
Chair Prozanski |
Discusses upcoming meetings. Closes work session on SB 148. Adjourns meeting at 4:55 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY