SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE
April 05, 2005 Hearing Room C
3:10 P.M. Tapes 49 - 50
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Floyd Prozanski, Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick
Sen. Charlie Ringo
Sen. Doug Whitsett
STAFF PRESENT: Anna Braun, Committee Administrator
Karen Scoffield, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 644 – Public Hearing
SB 670 – Public Hearing
SB 1001 – Public Hearing
SB 311 – Work Session
SB 321 – Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 49, A |
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005 |
Chair Prozanski |
Calls the meeting to order at 3:18 p.m. Notes that the committee is meeting as a subcommittee. Opens public hearing on SB 644. |
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SB 644 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Rep. Diane Rosenbaum |
House District 42. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 644 (EXHIBIT A). States that SB 644 is co-sponsored by herself and Sen. Vicki Walker. |
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041 |
Rep. Rosenbaum |
Summarizes and concludes testimony. |
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090 |
Chair Prozanski |
Notes the presence of a quorum. |
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100 |
Joe Schaeffer |
Service Employees International Union (SEIU), Local 503. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 644 (EXHIBIT B). |
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115 |
Annette Talbott |
Deputy Labor Commissioner, Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI). Submits written testimony on behalf of Dan Gardner, Commissioner, BOLI, in support of SB 644 (EXHIBIT C). |
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145 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks Talbott for an accurate reflection of the anecdotes that were provided. |
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153 |
Talbott |
Responds. |
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161 |
Sen. Beyer |
Comments on Talbott’s response. |
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163 |
Talbott |
Responds. |
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166 |
Sen. Beyer |
Verifies that BOLI has not received complaints from employees. |
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168 |
Talbott |
States that they would not take a complaint from an employee in this instance because it is not currently unlawful. |
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170 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if BOLI has received calls from employees stating that this has happened to them. |
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174 |
Talbott |
Responds. |
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178 |
Sen. Beyer |
Clarifies that Talbott does not have a number of the calls they receive. |
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180 |
Talbott |
Responds. |
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182 |
Sen. Beyer |
Provides an example and asks if it would count as family leave. |
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185 |
Talbott |
Responds that the Oregon Family Leave Act (OFLA) requires a serious health condition. |
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190 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if the leave can be used for the worker or for a family member. |
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192 |
Talbott |
Responds that it includes a serious health condition for the individual and a family member. |
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194 |
Schaeffer |
Remarks that OFLA only applies once an employee has been gone for a certain number of days. |
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200 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies that individuals who use OFLA have to have their health care provider sign off on their return to work. |
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205 |
Schaeffer |
Responds that he does not know. |
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207 |
Talbott |
Remarks that employers can ask for medical certification to make sure that an employee is able to return to work. |
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219 |
Lisa Trussell |
Associated Oregon Industries (AOI). Testifies in opposition to SB 644. |
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260 |
J.L. Wilson |
National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB). Testifies in opposition to SB 644. |
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285 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Comments on the restrictions to employers. |
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292 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks witnesses if they are aware of situations described by Rep. Rosenbaum. |
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300 |
Wilson |
Responds. |
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302 |
Trussell |
Responds. |
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304 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks Sen. Vicki Walker if she has any comments on SB 644. |
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306 |
Sen. Vicki Walker |
Senate District 7. States that she does not need to comment as Rep. Rosenbaum represented her. |
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308 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes public hearing on SB 644 and opens public hearing on SB 670. |
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SB 670 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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319 |
Sen. Vicki Walker |
Senate District 7. Testifies in support of SB 670. Discusses and submits an informational packet in support of SB 670 (EXHIBIT D). |
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TAPE 50, A |
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010 |
Sen. Walker |
Concludes testimony. |
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020 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Relates concern with change in the law allowing the Director of DCBS to prescribe treatment standards. |
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025 |
Sen. Walker |
Responds. |
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035 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Remarks that he does not agree with the current statute. |
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037 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks Sen. Walker if page 1, line 28 of SB 670 does result in a rule process. |
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040 |
Sen. Walker |
Remarks that it is directing the Director to do this because they are not doing it currently. |
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045 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies his question. |
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047 |
Sen. Walker |
Responds. |
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050 |
Chair Prozanski |
States understanding. |
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051 |
Sen. Walker |
Responds. |
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060 |
Drew Hagedorn |
Oregon Health Systems. Defers to Ramona St. George. |
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065 |
Ramona St. George |
President & CEO, Oregon Health Systems. States that Oregon Health Systems is the only MCO that is certified on a statewide basis to provide services to insurers and injured workers. Testifies in opposition to SB 670. |
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120 |
St. George |
Continues testimony. |
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145 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks the percentage of the Oregon Health Systems’ patients that are paid through workers’ compensation. |
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149 |
St. George |
Answers that 100% of their patients are workers’ compensation patients. |
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151 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks how long the previous rule discussed by St. George was in effect before it was addressed. |
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155 |
St. George |
Responds. |
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168 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies St. George’s position. |
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171 |
St. George |
Responds. |
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180 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks who information is given to to decide on disability benefits. |
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190 |
St. George |
Answers that the information is shared between the employer and the insurer. |
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200 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks the type of position of those providing the analysis. |
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204 |
St. George |
Answers that they are primarily a claims adjuster for the insurance company. |
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208 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks if the patient has access to their contract. |
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215 |
St. George |
Remarks that patients do not have access to their entire contract because they contain trade secrets. |
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223 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks if patients have to go through DCBS to obtain a copy of the contract. |
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225 |
St. George |
Responds. |
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230 |
Chris Davie |
State Accident Insurance Fund (SAIF) Corporation . Testifies regarding SB 670. States that ORS 656.260 discusses the confidentiality of MCO contracts. |
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273 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks if the restriction includes a prescription for physical therapy. |
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275 |
Davie |
Responds that it speaks generally to advocacy for the worker. |
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280 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Clarifies that it would not restrict a physician from prescribing physical therapy to finish rehabilitation. |
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282 |
Davie |
Answers, no. |
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284 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks SAIF’s opinion of page 1 of SB 670 requiring the Director of DCBS to prescribe by rule the different components that were discussed. |
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290 |
Davie |
Responds that they do not have a problem with it. |
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294 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies that the proposed change on page 3, line 7 of SB 670 is something that SAIF is in support of. |
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302 |
Davie |
Answers, yes. |
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320 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks Shilts DCBS’ ability to carry out what is proposed in SB 670. |
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333 |
John Shilts |
Administrator, Workers Compensation Division – Department of Consumer and Business Services (DCBS). Responds to Chair Prozanski’s question. |
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413 |
Chair Prozanski |
Asks Sen. Walker if she has any questions for DCBS. |
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415 |
Sen. Walker |
Comments that she has called Legislative Counsel to come and explain line 28 of SB 670 because she thinks there has been some misunderstanding of what it does. |
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417 |
Shilts |
Agrees that there is need for clarification. |
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420 |
Walker |
Discusses understanding of the language. |
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425 |
Chair Prozanski |
Discusses interpretation. |
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440 |
Walker |
Responds. |
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445 |
Shilts |
Discusses the interpretation of SB 670 by DCBS. |
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TAPE 49, B |
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025 |
Chair Prozanski |
States understanding of Sen. Walker’s intent. |
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030 |
Walker |
Responds. |
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034 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if MLAC has reviewed SB 670. |
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035 |
Shilts |
Answers that MLAC has not yet reviewed SB 670. |
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037 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks if MLAC is going to review SB 670. |
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039 |
Shilts |
States understanding that MLAC plans to review SB 670 on April 14, 2005. |
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040 |
Sen. Whitsett |
Asks the qualifications of the Director of DCBS to be able to prescribe treatment standards. |
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042 |
Shilts |
Responds. |
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060 |
Charlie Cheek |
Attorney, Legislative Counsel. Asks that the items in question be articulated. |
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065 |
Chair Prozanski |
Refers to line 28, page 1 of SB 670 and discusses items in question. |
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075 |
Cheek |
Responds. |
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080 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies Cheek’s response and the intent of SB 670. |
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085 |
Cheek |
Responds. |
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087 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes public hearing on SB 670 and opens public hearing on SB 1001. |
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SB 1001 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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100 |
Marshall Coba |
Oregon Society of Physician Assistants. Submits letters in support of SB 1001 (EXHIBIT E) and submits a fact sheet entitled “Oregon Physician Assistant Facts” regarding SB 1001 (EXHIBIT F). Testifies with a neutral position on SB 1001. |
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110 |
Ted Ruback |
Past President, Oregon Society of Physician Assistants. Discusses and submits written testimony in support of SB 1001 (EXHIBIT G). |
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128 |
Pat Kennedy – Moore |
Immediate Past President, Oregon Society of Physician Assistants. Testifies in support of SB 1001. |
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160 |
Ben Johnson |
Board Member, Oregon Society of Physicians Assistants. Testifies in support of SB 1001. |
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180 |
John Shilts |
Administrator, Workers Compensation Division, Department of Consumer and Business Services (DCBS). Discusses and submits written testimony regarding SB 1001 (EXHIBIT H). |
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240 |
Shilts |
Concludes testimony. |
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265 |
Lisa Trussell |
Associated Oregon Industries (AOI). Testifies in opposition to SB 1001. States that the Management Labor Advisory Committee (MLAC) does not support SB 1001. |
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275 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes public hearing on SB 1001 and opens work session on SB 311. |
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SB 311 – WORK SESSION |
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280 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 311. Introduces the -5 amendments to SB 311 (EXHIBIT I). |
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295 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 311-5 amendments dated 4/4/05. |
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298 |
Chair Prozanski |
Clarifies that the -5 amendments to SB 311 represent the parties that were part of the workgroup. Recognizes the nods from the members of the workgroup in the audience. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Prozanski |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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305 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves SB 311 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Prozanski |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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310 |
Sen. Ringo |
Comments that this is a significant issue and that it needs more work. |
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The following is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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John Shilts |
Administrator, Workers Compensation Division, Department of Consumer and Business Services (DCBS). Submits written testimony regarding SB 311 and the -5 amendments (EXHIBIT J). |
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330 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes work session on SB 311 and opens work session on SB 321. |
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SB 321 – WORK SESSION |
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331 |
Anna Braun |
Committee Administrator. Provides an overview of SB 321. Discusses the fiscal and revenue impacts of SB 321. |
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345 |
Sen. Burdick |
MOTION: Moves SB 321 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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349 |
Sen. Beyer |
Clarifies that ballot measure 30 was the local mandate ballot. |
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350 |
Braun |
Answers, yes. |
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352 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that he will not support SB 321. |
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370 |
Sen. Whitsett |
States that he will not support SB 321. |
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VOTE: 3-2-0 AYE: 3 - Burdick, Ringo, Prozanski NAY: 2 - Beyer, Whitsett |
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Chair Prozanski |
The motion CARRIES. SEN. PROZANSKI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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380 |
Chair Prozanski |
Closes work session on SB 321. Discusses the agenda for the next committee meeting. States that the carrier on SB 311 has been changed to Sen. Ringo. Adjourns the meeting at 4:40 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY