SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE
January 17, 2005 Hearing Room D
3:00 P.M. Tapes 1 – 3
(Corrected 4-21-05)
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Vicki Walker, Chair
Sen. C. Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ryan Deckert
Sen. Bill Morrisette
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Jeff Kruse
STAFF PRESENT: Marjorie Taylor, Committee Administrator
Dawn Tuso, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Adoption of Committee Rules – Organizational Meeting
Department of Education Overview - Informational Meeting
State Board of Education –Informational Meeting
Quality Education Commission – Informational Meeting
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 1, A |
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005 |
Chair Walker |
Calls meeting to order at 3:10 p.m. Opens an organizational meeting. |
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ADOPTION OF COMMITTEE RULES - ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING |
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017 |
Sen. C. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT the proposed Committee Rules dated 1/17/05 (EXHIBIT A). |
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020 |
Chair Walker |
Announces a change in the rules, requiring 48 hours public notice before holding a committee meeting. |
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025 |
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VOTE: 3-0- 2 EXCUSED: 2 - Sen. Deckert, Sen. Kruse |
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Chair Walker |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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030 |
Chair Walker |
Introduces members of the committee. |
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035 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Introduces himself. |
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040 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Discusses his interest in education issues. |
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045 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Introduces himself. |
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050 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Discusses his long term involvement and interest in education. |
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060 |
Chair Walker |
Introduces the Committee Assistant, Dawn Tuso and the Committee Administrator, Marjorie Taylor. |
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065 |
Chair Walker |
Discusses the committee work plan.
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090 |
Chair Walker |
Closes Organizational meeting. Opens Informational meeting on the Department of Education Overview. Introduces guests from the Oregon Department of Education, Susan Castillo, Pat Burk, and Vickie Fleming. |
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DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OVERVIEW - INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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Susan Castillo |
Superintendent of Public Instruction for the State of Oregon. Introduces herself and submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B). |
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100 |
Castillo |
Discusses submitted materials (EXHIBIT C).
Six Priorities for the Oregon Department of Education:
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165 |
Castillo |
Welcomes the committee’s suggestion in improving the accountability of schools. Introduces two members of her team at the Oregon Department of Education, Vickie Fleming and Pat Burk. |
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170 |
Vickie Fleming |
Deputy Superintendent for the Oregon Department of Education. Presents overview of department structure and programs. |
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185 |
Fleming |
States that the Department exists to answer three questions:
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195 |
Fleming |
Discusses the focus on re-organizing the Oregon Department of Education. Shares that the statutory responsibility of the department is to oversee a system of standard public schools K-12 for Oregon’s 198 school districts and 20 education service districts. States that the department’s operational general fund budget is approximately $36 million. Reports that the department’s number of FTE has reduced by about 30 people and the operational budget has been reduced by about 18%. Says that it is the department’s mission to provide leadership for an effective, accountable, and comprehensive education enterprise in Oregon. Mentions Susan Castillo’s set of goals. Discusses the No Child Left Behind Act. States that the expectations behind student achievement continue to grow. |
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235 |
Fleming |
Continues to discuss the re-organization of the department.
Introduces and explains the five offices that operate the department:
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330 |
Fleming |
Introduces three other actions:
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350 |
Fleming |
Mentions Education Service Districts. Remarks that it is difficult to provide all of the direct technical assistance that schools and districts express a need for and to accommodate all of the accountability functions resulting from the introduction of the No Child Left Behind Act. |
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375 |
Fleming |
Summarizes the presentation. |
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385 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Comments about the integrated data system mentioned by Vickie Fleming. |
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405 |
Fleming |
Responds to Sen. C. Starr’s comment. |
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420 |
Pat Burk |
Chief Policy Officer for the Department of Education. Introduces himself and discusses increased focus on accountability. |
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440 |
Burk |
Gives background information regarding the history of accountability in Oregon:
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TAPE 2, A |
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055 |
Burk |
States that in May of 1990, Oregon passed Ballot Measure 5, resulting in significant changes:
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075 |
Burk |
Discusses the creation of the State Assessment System and the State Report Card. Explains the rating system. Speaks about House Bill 3565, or the Oregon Education Act for the 21st Century, which was passed in July of 1991. Noted that the focus on providing schools shifted:
Explains that, in 1995, there was dissatisfaction with the specificity of those outcomes and that the concern was that more precise information was needed. Instructs that House Bill 2991 was introduced, redirecting the department to redo those standards. Introduces and recites the content standards in six areas:
Shares that the established performance measures for standards led to the creation of the State Assessment System 1996. Mentions the State Report Card which was introduced in 1997 and adds that this change directed the department to establish measures for school performance, to report them publicly, and to rank all of the schools in the state on a 5 point scale. |
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090 |
Burk |
Addresses the No Child Left Behind Act which was introduced in 2002. Explains how the No Child Left Behind Act compares and contrasts with Oregon’s system, the State Report Card. |
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125 |
Burk |
Continues to discuss the differences in the two systems. |
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140 |
Burk |
Summarizes the relationship between the two systems. |
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150 |
Burk |
Refers to the Oregon Accountability System for Education-Redesign & Process Timeline (EXHIBIT D).
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190 |
Burk |
Continues to discuss the system and timeline. |
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200 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Refers to the 10th grade Math Report Card and asks whether or not any adjustments have been made in regards to the appropriate grade to test students. |
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210 |
Burk |
Explains that there have not been any specific adjustments but that they have studied the question extensively. Expresses concern over a possible structural problem in that two years of mathematics may not be an adequate amount of instruction for students to be able to perform to the state’s standard. |
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230 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Comments on requirements for Math, Science, and English. Asks about increased requirements. |
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250 |
Burk |
Explains that it is a complicated procedure, including staffing levels and current graduation requirements. States that Oregon is in the bottom 3rd of the U.S. in terms of the number of units of Math and Science required for graduation. Compares the number of credits required to the number of courses taken. |
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285 |
Castillo |
Adds that there are a number of districts that have increased their requirements. |
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295 |
Chair Walker |
Notes that she appreciates that the department has streamlined their administration. Asks about the definition of the term classroom and how we can achieve the goal of bringing more dollars to the classroom. |
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315 |
Burk |
Discusses the Quality Education Model. Mentions the DBI- Database Initiative introduced approximately six years ago. Compares district expenditures. Explains what the expenditures should include. |
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355 |
Chair Walker |
Talks about the Secretary of State’s audit. Suggests a lack of consistency between districts and flaws in the ways each district is reporting this information. |
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390 |
Castillo |
Asserts that the department welcomes the audit. Recognizes that there is still work that needs to be done to improve the database system in Oregon. Offers to return information to the committee on the department’s work plan. |
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430 |
Chair Walker |
Discusses data collection and the important role it plays in measuring educational success. |
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TAPE 1, B |
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001 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about the internal audit. |
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005 |
Fleming |
Explains the work of the internal auditor at the Oregon Department of Education. Informs that the audit is available online at the Oregon Department of Education’s website. |
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010 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if the auditor is an outside auditor. |
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013 |
Fleming |
Explains that the auditor is employed by the Oregon Department of Education but that he is not part of the management team. |
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014 |
Chair Walker |
Closes segment. Opens segment on the State Board of Education Overview. |
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STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION OVERVIEW - INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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015 |
Chair Walker |
Introduces Steve Bogart, Emilio Hernandez, and Randy Harnisch. |
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030 |
Chair Walker |
Welcomes Steve Bogart, Chair of the State Board of Education, on conference call by phone, to the meeting. Asks Steve Bogart to give an introduction and overview of board activities. |
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040 |
Steve Bogart |
Gives a brief introduction. States that the board oversees the public education system in the state. Reports that they are working on the implementation of education reform. Stresses that they are trying to be responsive to changing needs. Recognizes that the organizational and financial limitations on the system are a huge challenge. Introduces and discusses the Principles and Goals handout (EXHIBIT E). Explains, as stated on the handout, the goal of the board is that each student demonstrates the knowledge and skills necessary to transition successfully to their next steps: Advanced learning, work, and citizenship. Introduces six outcomes:
Discusses specific actions or strategies that the board wishes to take:
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Bogart |
Shares that the board is comprised of people from various careers and stations in life across the state. Refers to the handout on the Members of the Oregon State Board of Education (EXHIBIT F). Asks for Emilio Hernandez to introduce the board. |
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100 |
Emilio Hernandez |
Vice Chair of the Oregon State Board of Education. Introduces himself. Announces two vacancies on board and introduces current members. |
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105 |
Chair Walker |
Asks about vacancies on the board. |
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110 |
Randy Harnisch |
Staff to the Department of Education. Responds to Chair Walker’s question regarding the vacancies on the board. |
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115 |
Chair Walker |
Asks for clarification regarding how long there have been vacancies on the board. |
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120 |
Hernandez |
Clarifies and continues his introduction of members and advisors. |
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125 |
Chair Walker |
Asks Steve Bogart if he would like to add anything to Emilio Hernandez’s introduction. |
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130 |
Bogart |
States that he does not have anything to add. |
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135 |
Chair Walker |
Asks Emilio Hernandez if he has anything to add. |
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140 |
Hernandez |
Discusses that the State Board of Education is also working on the re-organization of the department. Mentions a meeting that Susan Castillo organized earlier this year that focused on the achievement gap. Introduces a few topics:
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165 |
Hernandez |
Discusses the English as a Second Language barrier. |
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175 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if the DOE has diversified their department staff. |
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185 |
Hernandez |
Explains the Superintendent’s efforts. |
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195 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about the division of power between the Board of Education and the Department of Education. |
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210 |
Bogart |
Commends Susan Castillo for her efforts in changing the approach. Discusses the natural friction between the two but recognizes the positive working relationship between the board and the department. |
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230 |
Hernandez |
Adds that there has been a cooperative attitude between the board and the department and that the division of power is minimal at this point. |
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245 |
Randy Harnisch |
Executive Officer for the State Board of Education. Introduces himself. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G). Explains how the Department of Education fits into the framework and notes that it is demonstrated on the flow chartsubmitted (EXHIBIT H). |
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275 |
Harnisch |
Discusses checks and balances. |
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290 |
Harnisch |
States that the goal is to see that every child in Oregon be able to achieve to the highest level. |
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295 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Asks whether or not there is still continued discussion regarding the minimum standard for graduation. |
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305 |
Harnisch |
Directs Sen. C. Starr’s attention to a bulleted statement on the document (EXHIBIT E) stating: Clarify the standards required for a high school diploma. Replies to Sen. C. Starr’s question that yes, it is an ongoing discussion with the board. |
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315 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if the board is meeting their statutory guidelines. |
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330 |
Bogart |
Explains that they have struggled to meet the minimum requirements but that they have taken steps to eliminate the problem in the future. |
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345 |
Chair Walker |
Expresses disappointment that the guidelines have not been met but that she is glad to hear that the board is taking the issue seriously. States that she would like to receive a report on the ways in which the board plans to ensure that they meet the statutory guidelines in the future. |
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365 |
Bogart |
Agrees to submit a report of the meeting to the committee. |
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370 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if there are any additional questions. |
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375 |
Harnisch |
Replies that there is nothing further to add to the presentation. |
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380 |
Chair Walker |
Welcomes the opportunity for further discussion with the board of education during the process. |
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385 |
Hernandez |
Adds that the members of the Board of Education are available to help and are happy to meet with the committee in the future. |
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415 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks for an update on rural schools that are at risk. |
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TAPE 2, B |
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005 |
Chair Walker |
Thanks members of the Board of Education for presenting. |
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010 |
Bogart |
Offers gratitude for the opportunity to present. |
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015 |
Chair Walker |
Closes segment. Opens segment on the Quality Education Commission. Introduces Ken Thrasher, Pat Burk, and Brian Reeder from the Quality Education Commission. |
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THE QUALITY EDUCATION COMMISSION - INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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020 |
Ken Thrasher |
Chair of the Quality Education Commission. Introduces himself, Pat Burk, and Brian Reeder, of the Quality Education Commission. |
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022 |
Pat Burk |
Chief Policy Officer for the Department of Education. Introduces himself. |
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024 |
Brian Reeder |
Director of the Policy, Research, and Analysis Section at the Department of Education. Introduces himself. |
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025 |
Thrasher |
Introduces a brief summary of the Quality of Education Commission report (EXHIBIT I). Adds that the full report is available online at their website. Discusses the report in detail. |
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050 |
Thrasher |
Gives an overview of the Quality Education Commission. Discusses the challenge of the achievement gap. Talks about the role of the commission. Advocates for a seamless education system pre k-20. Discusses what we have to do to meet the requirements of the No Child Left Behind Act. |
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105 |
Thrasher |
Reports the commission’s focus:
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130 |
Thrasher |
Continues to discuss the commission’s focus on accountability and governance. Suggests that we need to develop a state economic model. |
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170 |
Thrasher |
Discusses earnings and social service spending by educational attainment submitted for the record (EXHIBIT J). |
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175 |
Thrasher |
Discusses efficiency. Explains adequacy. Continues to discuss adequacy. Notes the challenge of adequate funding. Describes the Quality Education Model. Reviews the funding and demographic trends. Stresses the implications of more funding cuts. Mentions examples of how additional dollars can be effectively spent. |
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295 |
Thrasher |
States that the commission’s recommendations are to:
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305 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Comments that teachers should be prepared to teach reading effectively. Asks why there isn’t more emphasis on preparing teachers and also asks what we should be doing. |
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320 |
Thrasher |
Agrees that it is a very important issue and that many young people entering college now have to take some form of remedial training to deal with the lack of training in their earlier years. |
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325 |
Burk |
Agrees that it is an issue and informs the committee of the expansion of the focus of the reading first grant taskforce to include all grade levels. Mentions that there have been conversations regarding the issue with the Teacher Standards and Practices Commission on the specific issue as well. Discusses teachers who are licensed at the secondary level without training at the appropriate literacy level. Remarks that there is funding for demonstration sites where high schools are taking on the question of high school literacy. |
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390 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Comments that the Quality Education Model highlights issues across the whole spectrum but that it seems to fail to address urban schools that with current funding are actually getting the job done. Asks how that might relate as far as reform within the system to get more bang for the dollars that we are spending. |
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410 |
Burk |
Offers to provide information regarding the State Action for Education Leadership Program, which focuses on high school literacy as one of its targets. Reports that, last year they held the first ever Closing the Achievement Gap Summit in the state where some Oregon schools were identified as closing the achievement gap. |
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TAPE 3, A |
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003 |
Chair Walker |
Offers Brian Reeder an opportunity to present. |
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005 |
Brian Reeder |
Department of Education. Introduces himself. States that he is present primarily to answer questions. |
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010 |
Burk |
Suggests that the Quality Education Model is more useful as a diagnostic tool rather than a justification for a certain number. Informs the committee of software applications that are available to assist in better understanding the information provided in the model. |
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020 |
Chair Walker |
Comments that she would like to see the software. |
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025 |
Chair Walker |
Offers gratitude to all of the presenters. |
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030 |
Thrasher |
Mentions that Brian Reeder is a great resource and for the committee to please use him. |
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040 |
Chair Walker |
Closes the informational meeting. Adjourns the meeting at 5:10 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY