SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE
January 26, 2005 Hearing Room D
3:00 P.M. Tapes 9 – 11
(Corrected 4-21-05)
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Vicki Walker, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Jeff Kruse
Sen. Bill Morrisette
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Ryan Deckert
STAFF PRESENT: Marjorie Taylor, Committee Administrator
Dawn Tuso, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Introduction of Committee Measures – Work Session
Oregon Small Schools Initiative – Informational Meeting Youth Suicide Prevention – Informational Meeting
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE 9, A |
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Chair Walker |
Calls meeting to order at 3:07 p.m. |
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Chair Walker |
Opens a work session on LC 985 and LC 1292. |
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INTRODUCTION OF MEASURES - WORK SESSION |
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Chair Walker |
Introduces LC 985 (EXHIBIT A) andLC 1292 (EXHIBIT B) as committee bills. Gives overview of the bills. LC 985:
LC 1292:
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035 |
Chair Walker |
Announces that the committee will not be meeting on Wednesday February 9th. Announces that the committee will be having an out of office meeting at the Douglas ESD Office in Roseburg on February 11th. |
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045 |
Sen. Kruse |
Expresses that LC 985 might need a workgroup. States that a lot of players need to be involved in order to move forward with it. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
States that he will not support LC 985. Contends that he is opposed to it. States that he would like to have the workgroup before the bill is introduced. |
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Chair Walker |
States that she wants to get the LC drafts on the table so that they can start a discussion. States that LC 985 relates to Education Service Districts and that the bill does not have to remain in its present form. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
States that, as a courtesy, he will support LC 985 as a committee bill but that he will oppose it all the way. |
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Sen. C. Starr |
MOTION: Moves LC's: 985, 1292 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills. |
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Chair Walker |
Asks if there is any objection. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Comments that the LC drafts are not finished products. Reports a personal interest in a workgroup product for LC 985. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Ryan Deckert |
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Chair Walker |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Comments on LC 1292. States that he is interested in a half-day kindergarten. |
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Chair Walker |
Responds. |
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Sen. C. Starr |
Comments on the issue of kindergarten. States that the children who most need pre-school and kindergarten are the ones who are least likely to voluntarily show up. States that requiring kindergarten for a child who is being properly trained at home is a waste of public funds. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Responds. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Comments that moving toward a full-day kindergarten at the same time as proposing cuts to the Head Start program could be problematic. |
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Chair Walker |
Opens informational meeting on the Oregon Small Schools Initiative Overview. Introduces Karen Phillips, Director. |
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OREGON SMALL SCHOOLS INITIATIVE - INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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Karen Phillips |
Director, Oregon Small Schools Initiative. Introduces herself. Introduces the Oregon Small Schools Initiative program. Submits and gives overview of the initiative (EXHIBIT C). Discusses mission:
Discusses goals:
Discusses schools that work: · International High School · Urban Academy |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks where the urban academies are located. |
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Phillips |
Replies that they are in New York City. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
States interest in the development of the idea of an Urban Academy. |
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Phillips |
States that the Urban Academy is a public school, not a charter school. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Asks if the Urban Academy is a small school inside a big school. |
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Phillips |
Replies, yes. |
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Phillips |
Discusses the value of small schools:
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Sen. Morrisette |
Comments that it would be interesting to hear about the experiences of Jefferson High School and Marshall High School since they have re-structured this year. |
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Phillips |
Encourages the committee to look at any of the three large high schools in Oregon that have re-structured:
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Phillips |
Discusses poverty and achievement and school size:
States that small in itself is not enough. States that small creates the conditions for better learning. Explains in detail:
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Phillips |
Discusses high-achieving schools: Attributes:
Teaching and Learning Practices:
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TAPE 10, A |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about parental involvement in relation to admittance to one of the schools. |
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Phillips |
Answers that parental involvement is important. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if parental involvement is a condition of admittance. |
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Phillips |
Answers, no. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Asks if parental involvement is something that happens naturally once a child is in the program. |
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Phillips |
Replies that parental involvement has intentionally grown because of the school and the program. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Discusses common belief that there is more parental involvement in affluent communities and less in poor communities. States that the findings from the small schools model seem to be contrary to that belief. |
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Phillips |
Replies. |
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Phillips |
Continues to give presentation. Discusses research implications. More attributes in place leads to:
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Phillips |
Discusses small school models.
Explains in detail. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks what term they use for teacher. |
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Phillips |
Answers, teacher advisor. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
States that the advisor is a good term to use. |
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Sen. C. Starr |
Asks question regarding the International School. |
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Phillips |
Replies, yes. Clarifies. |
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Phillips |
Introduces strategies:
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Phillips |
Mentions eight current schools that are working with the Oregon Small Schools Initiative:
Talks about Liberty High School in Hillsboro. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks whether or not Springfield has selected a school to take part in the program. |
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Phillips |
States that they will be working with 12 new schools that have not been created yet. States that Springfield is one of them. Explains. |
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Phillips |
Reports that by September of this year, there will be 24 schools in Oregon working with the initiative. |
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Phillips |
Describes the criteria for participation:
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Phillips |
Gives an overview of the number of schools in Oregon currently. |
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Phillips |
Mentions program benefits for the schools:
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Sen. Morrisette |
Recommends looking at the Ontario School District. States that he visited a charter school there and was impressed with the work that they are doing. |
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Phillips |
Continues to address the program benefits:
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Phillips |
Talks about two schools that have made the change:
Explains in detail. |
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Phillips |
Discusses the challenges:
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Phillips |
Discusses Oregonian’s belief split. Most important priority:
Standards are set:
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Sen. C. Starr |
States that our graduation requirements are too low. |
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Phillips |
Agrees that our requirements are too low. Explains. |
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Phillips |
Discusses Diploma requirements:
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Chair Walker |
Asks if the number of credits required have ever been higher. |
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Phillips |
Replies that Oregon has never had a higher number of requirements. States that they used to be lower. Explains. |
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Chair Walker |
Asks where Oregon is nationally in terms of graduation requirements. |
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Phillips |
Answers, Oregon is low to mid. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Mentions foreign language requirements. States that it is not easy to add more curriculum to a high school. |
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Phillips |
Responds. |
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TAPE 9, B |
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Sen. C. Starr |
Comments that many high schools in Oregon have set higher graduation requirements. States that we should have at least three credits in Math and Science and four in language arts as a minimum. |
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Phillips |
Agrees. Explains in detail. |
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Phillips |
Continues to discuss graduation requirements. |
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Chair Walker |
Asks if a student must apply to one of the small schools and if so, what the process is. |
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Phillips |
Replies, yes. Explains process. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Suggests looking at rural parts of the state. |
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Phillips |
Responds. |
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Chair Walker |
Closes segment. Opens segment on Youth Suicide Prevention. Stands at ease while setting up presentation equipment. |
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YOUTH SUICIDE PREVENTION - INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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Chair Walker |
Introduces Lisa Millet. |
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Lisa Millet |
Manager, Injury and Violence Prevention, DHS. Introduces herself. Discusses school-based suicide prevention in Oregon. Submits informational packet (EXHIBIT D). Gives overview of presentation:
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Millet |
Discusses:
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Sen. Kruse |
Asks if there are statistics that tie suicide attempts with drug use either with the youth or with the family. |
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Millet |
Replies that they think as many as 25 % have been using when they attempt. |
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Sen. Kruse |
States that family drug history would probably be relatively prevalent in looking at youth suicide attempts. |
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Millet |
Agrees and explains in detail. Discusses risk factors. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Mentions a bill that addresses universities and their struggle with suicide. Asks if they are working with universities on the issue of suicide. |
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Millet |
Discusses efforts. |
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Millet |
Continues to discuss presentation:
History of suicide prevention efforts in Oregon:
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Millet |
Prevention Plan
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Millet |
School based efforts:
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Millet |
SAFE:TEEN
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TAPE 10, B |
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Millet |
SAFE:TEEN at a glance:
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about the safe school hotline. |
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Millet |
Replies, yes. Explains. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Asks for clarification in regards to training all students. |
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Millet |
Clarifies. |
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Millet |
Shares a short video on teen suicide. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks how long the complete video tape is. |
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Millet |
Answers. |
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Chair Walker |
Recognizes Donna Noonan, Suicide Prevention Coordinator for Oregon. |
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Donna Noonan |
Suicide Prevention Coordinator for Oregon. Introduces herself. |
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Millet |
Continues to discuss SAFE:TEEN implementation:
SAFE:TEEN Outcomes:
Mentions resources in Oregon. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
States that he would like to see the complete video. |
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Millet |
Responds that she will make the video available. |
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Tom Eversol |
Public Health Administrator, Benton County. Introduces himself. |
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Mitch Anderson |
Mental Health Director, Benton County Health Department. Introduces himself. |
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Michael Cunningham |
Willamette ESD. Introduces himself. |
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Eversol |
Discusses services offered. |
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Anderson |
Introduces the ASSIST program. Mentions that it is a strength based model. |
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Chair Walker |
Asks how many members of the ASSIST team work with an individual family. |
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Anderson |
Replies that it depends on the situation. |
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Anderson |
Continues to discuss the ASSIST program. Discusses the emergency room’s involvement with the program. |
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Chair Walker |
Asks if it is a new program. |
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Anderson |
Replies, yes it is a pilot project that is just starting. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Asks how information can be passed from the emergency room staff to the ASSIST program staff without breaching confidentiality. |
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Anderson |
Explains that the emergency room staff would get the consent of the family. |
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Anderson |
Continues to discuss the program. |
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Sen. Kruse |
States that the ASSIST Program model seems similar to that of wrap around services. |
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Chair Walker |
Asks if the ASSIST program was the soul purpose of the Bond Measure. |
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Anderson |
Responds. |
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Michael Cunningham |
Willamette ESD. Introduces himself and submits informational packet (EXHIBIT E). Discusses:
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TAPE 11, A |
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Cunningham |
Discusses data from Salem-Keizer School District. |
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Sen. Kruse |
Expresses interest in seeing the screen that is used for the assessment. |
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Cunningham |
Replies that he could provide the full screen. |
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Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if the schools in his district could provide the service for themselves. Asks if he believes that it is an essential service. |
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Cunningham |
Responds, yes it is an essential service. |
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Sen. C. Starr |
Inquires about a statistic discrepancy. |
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Cunningham |
Explains. |
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Chair Walker |
Closes informational meeting. Adjourns meeting at 5:10 p.m. |
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EXHIBIT SUMMARY