SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE
February 14, 2005 Hearing Room D
3:00 P.M. Tapes 22-23
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Vicki Walker, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ryan Deckert
Sen. Jeff Kruse
Sen. Bill Morrisette
STAFF PRESENT: Marjorie Taylor, Committee Administrator
Dawn Tuso, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Introduction of Committee Measures – Work Session
Head Start Presentation – Informational Meeting
SB 414 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 22, A |
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005 |
Chair Walker |
Calls meeting to order at 3:08 p.m. |
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015 |
Chair Walker |
Announces that today is the last day to introduce bills. Appoints a work group for the ESD consolidation, SB 415. States that the work group is to report back to the committee on March 28th, 2005. Asks Sen. Kruse to serve on the committee. States that Sen. Ringo will also be on the work group as well as a number of different parties. Says that it will be an open meeting so everyone is welcome to attend. Reports that Rep. Flores has been asked to appoint a member to serve on the work group as well. Wants a discussion about the 95/5 split and the governance process. Reports that Marjorie Taylor will serve as the administrator for the work group. |
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035 |
Chair Walker |
Opens work session on LC 846, LC 1944, LC 2116, LC 2024, LC 2025, LC 2784, LC 2449, and LC 2762. |
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INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE MEASURES - WORK SESSION |
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037 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of LC 846 (EXHIBIT A), LC 1944 (EXHIBIT B), LC 2116 (EXHIBIT C), LC 2024 (EXHIBIT D), LC 2025 (EXHIBIT E), LC 2784 (EXHIBIT F), and LC 2449 (EXHIBIT G). States that Sen. Morrisette just presented LC 2762 to committee for introduction (EXHIBIT H). |
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053 |
Sen. C. Starr |
MOTION: Moves LC's: 846, 1944, 2116, 2024, 2025, 2784, 2449, 2762 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills. |
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065 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Mentions that LC 2762 is from the Governor’s office and the Superintendent of Public Education’s office. |
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068 |
Chair Walker |
States that LC 2116 is a bill she is offering forward on child abuse reporting within school districts. |
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075 |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Deckert |
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Chair Walker |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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NOTE: LC 846 printed as SB 769 LC 1944 printed as SB 768 LC 2024 printed as SB 767 LC 2025 printed as SB 766 LC 2116 printed as SB 749 LC 2449 printed as SB 748 LC 2784 printed as SB 747 LC 2762 printed as SB 765 |
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080 |
Chair Walker |
Closes work session and opens informational meeting on Head Start. |
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HEAD START – INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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086 |
Susan Castillo |
Oregon Superintendent of Public Instruction. Expresses enthusiastic support of Head Start programs. Talks about the importance of Head Start. |
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150 |
Annie Soto |
Executive Director, Lane County Head Start and President, Oregon Head Start Association. Submits brochure on Oregon Head Start (EXHIBIT I). Shares outcome information about Oregon children, three to five years of age, from the last program year. Reports at the beginning of the program year, 15% of children could understand words in children’s books, read on their own, use a variety of writing tools, and use simple sentences to communicate. Reports at the end of the year, over 60% of the children had mastered those skills. Discusses math abilities of the children. Talks about social and emotional abilities of children. States that there is an 18% funding cut in Oregon right now. |
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190 |
Soto |
Talks about the parent or caregivers’ involvement in a child’s education. States that both the parents and children are enthusiastic. |
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210 |
Donna Schnitker |
Director, Harney Head Start. Offers background information about Head Start. Talks about benefits of Head Start. Discusses the monitoring process of the program. Talks about accountability. |
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250 |
Chair Walker |
Asks Castillo if she has 1,797 performance standards that she has to review. |
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252 |
Castillo |
Responds that she is unsure of the exact count but that they do have a large number of performance standards. States that the No Child Left Behind Act has influenced the number of performance standards. |
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270 |
Chair Walker |
Asks how federal dollars are leveraged and what contribution is required of the state. |
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273 |
Soto |
Replies that there is no formal contribution level. Discusses funding avenues. |
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287 |
Chair Walker |
Asks what percentage of children are being served now compared to the number that would be served after the Governor’s proposed 18% budget cut. |
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292 |
Soto |
Replies about 950 less students statewide. |
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300 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if a case can be made for not making budget cuts this biennium. |
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312 |
Schnitker |
Responds. |
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320 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Discusses the current budget crunch and philosophy of immediate return. |
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327 |
Soto |
Stresses that Head Start effectively prevents crisis within families. |
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352 |
Castillo |
Comments that “the children only have this time right now that they are preschool age, so we effect them right now in their lives and we can set them on a course for success or not. That is the policy decision we are faced with in this legislative session.“ |
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365 |
Chair Walker |
Comments on Head Start being an asset. Asks if it is true that Head Start prepares children for school. |
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375 |
Schnitker |
Replies yes. Talks about preparing children for kindergarten. |
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405 |
Gary Withers |
President, Children’s Institute. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J). Introduces the institute and discusses research done on children being ready for school and discusses link to poverty. |
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TAPE 23, A |
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005 |
Withers |
States that third grade is a huge benchmark. Talks about the development of the brain. |
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030 |
Withers |
Discusses safety and quality in childcare. |
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060 |
Withers |
Talks about economists and their findings. Discusses investing in early childhood. Talks about the Perry Preschool study. |
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070 |
Withers |
Discusses consequences if there is not an investment in early childhood education. |
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085 |
Chair Walker |
Expresses interest in the studies. Asks if the information is available online. |
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090 |
Swati Adarkar |
Replies yes. |
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095 |
Withers |
States that the chair of the board of the High Scope Education Research Foundation is Matt Hennessey, who is also the CEO of QuickTrack in Portland as well as a member of a group called Ready For School. |
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105 |
Adarkar |
Comments on how to adequately fund k-12. Reports that research shows that starting in kindergarten is too late. |
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111 |
Chair Walker |
Comments on research study reporting that the issue of childhood obesity starts at pre-k. |
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115 |
Adarkar |
Comments that the results of prevention programs are not seen until many years after they have taken place. Points out that the corrections budget is growing. |
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125 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks for clarification regarding Dr. Perry. |
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127 |
Adarkar |
States that one is the Perry Pre-School and that the other is Dr. Bruce Perry, who has done research on how abuse effects the brain. |
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129 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks for further clarification regarding Dr. Perry. |
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131 |
Adarkar |
Replies. |
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133 |
Sen. Morrisette |
States that the research Dr. Perry presents focuses on how the brain is effected by the simple neglect of a child. |
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145 |
Chair Walker |
Asks for comment on how other states fund their pre-k programs. |
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146 |
Adarkar |
Responds that there are a variety of strategies. Discusses a few initiatives. |
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155 |
Withers |
Reports that creative revenue strategies are being developed. |
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160 |
Sen. Deckert |
Comments on the fiscal structure and federal government. Recognizes increasing reliance on the federal government. |
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190 |
Withers |
States that Minnesota is pursuing an endowment idea that may be beneficial to look at. |
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195 |
Sen. Deckert |
Remarks on creative ways of raising funds separate from the state general fund. |
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200 |
Withers |
Comments on future research outlining the true economic impact as a result of failing to invest in early childhood. |
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210 |
Nancy Latini |
Assistant Superintendent, Office of Student Learning and Partnerships, Department of Education (DOE). Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K). Talks about student outcomes. |
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230 |
Latini |
Discusses survey results. |
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250 |
Latini |
Talks about content standards. |
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260 |
Chair Walker |
Asks when the report is coming out. |
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262 |
Latini |
Replies in two weeks. |
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270 |
Chair Walker |
Closes informational meeting and opens public hearing on SB 414. SB 414 is submitted by staff for the record (EXHIBIT L). |
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SB 414 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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283 |
Rep. Mark Hass |
Represents House District 27. Submits informational packet including written testimony and research and benefits of extended day kindergarten (EXHIBIT M). Testifies in support of SB 414. |
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342 |
Sen. Ringo |
Represents Senate District 17. Testifies in support of SB 414. |
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365 |
Sen. Ringo |
Talks about changing the funding formula. |
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382 |
Sen. Ringo |
States that 30 states have full day kindergarten. |
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390 |
Chair Walker |
Asks where the money is going to come from if SB 415 does not go through and funds are not freed up. |
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392 |
Sen. Ringo |
Replies that if the funding formula is changed, money would be pulled from the funding of other grades. |
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408 |
Rep. Mark Hass |
Believes that there will be ESD consolidation savings. States that SB 414 is optional for school districts. |
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TAPE 22, B |
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Sen. Kruse |
Expresses concerns regarding funding issue and school space availability for extended kindergarten. States that he would like to know the cost of SB 414. |
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010 |
Rep. Mark Hass |
States that the cost will be about $40 million if all school districts sign up for extended day kindergarten. |
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015 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks how many children he would project to attend the full day kindergarten. |
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023 |
Rep. Mark Hass |
Responds. |
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040 |
Sue Robertson |
Executive Administrator, Beaverton School District. Testifies in support of SB 414. Discusses why the Beaverton School District supports SB 414. Talks about proficiency and the connection between quality and quantity of instruction. States that standards and expectations today are much higher than they have been in the past. Talks about vocabulary size in kindergarten effecting reading comprehension in later elementary years. Mentions the achievement gap. Gives analogy of students with ladders. States that the more time a student spends in kindergarten, the better the student performs in first grade. |
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095 |
Robertson |
Talks about Beaverton’s Title 1 schools. States that spending resources now will save us later. Mentions Beaverton’s aggressive goal that every student will increase academic achievement over the next five years. Talks about closing the achievement gap. Discusses working parents preferring full day kindergarten. Talks about capacity and the struggle to find space. Believes that it is cost effective. Asks that kindergarten not be thought of as a luxury. |
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178 |
Sen. Deckert |
Reports that Mrs. Robertson’s husband, Reed Robertson, was his eighth grade Science teacher. |
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188 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Asks if phonemic awareness and phonics are being taught explicitly by direct instruction. |
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192 |
Robertson |
States that phonemic awareness, fluency, comprehension, vocabulary, and phonics are taught. |
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195 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Asks if they are taught under the whole language approach. |
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197 |
Robertson |
Replies that they are taught by direct instruction and whole language instruction. |
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205 |
Arlene L. Roblan |
Principal, Madison Elementary School. Testifies in support of SB 414. Submits and reads written testimony (EXHIBIT N). |
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255 |
Chair Walker |
Comments that both of the Roblan’s have been principals. |
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260 |
Rep. Arnie Roblan |
Represents House District 9. Reports that it has been a wonderful calling for both of them. |
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270 |
Arlene Roblan |
Comments that it is not too late to reach children by the time they get to kindergarten. Stresses that Title 1 funding is needed for many programs, not just extended day kindergarten. |
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300 |
Chair Walker |
States that some Beaverton Title 1 schools are providing extended day Kindergarten. Asks if that is a choice that Coos Bay has made. |
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305 |
Arlene Roblan |
Replies that Coos Bay schools have not decided to use Title 1 money to provide extended day kindergarten yet. |
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310 |
Chair Walker |
Thinks it would be great if some of their Title 1 funding could be used to offer extended day kindergarten. |
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311 |
Arlene Roblan |
States that she will look into it. |
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313 |
Chair Walker |
Expresses surprise by the number of homeless families at Madison Elementary School. Asks how many children attend the school. |
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317 |
Arlene Roblan |
Replies 380 students and that there are 60 homeless families. |
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325 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if there has been an increase in homeless families since the economy has been pretty bad. |
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323 |
Arlene Roblan |
Replies yes, especially on the south coast. |
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330 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks how many children on the south coast choose not to attend kindergarten because it is not mandatory. |
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340 |
Arlene Roblan |
Estimates that everyone who knows about kindergarten attends. |
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345 |
Sen. Morrisette |
States that there has been concern that children are not taking advantage of the availability of kindergarten. Says that every superintendent he has spoken with has confirmed that they would be able to handle the student increase without much problem. |
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353 |
Arlene Roblan |
Agrees that the increase could be accommodated. |
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355 |
Sen. Deckert |
Asks if she would be comfortable with using more money from the current budget on kindergarten if additional money is not produced for the program. |
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365 |
Arlene Roblan |
Replies that it would be difficult because they have already been cutting funding for many years. |
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373 |
Rep. Arnie Roblan |
States that when you are in a district with declining enrollment and it is coupled with declining resources from the state, it is difficult to make those kinds of decisions. |
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410 |
Jada Pearson |
Beaverton Education Association. Expresses support for SB 414. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT O). |
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415 |
Susan Lewis |
Beaverton Education Association. Expresses support for SB 414. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT P). |
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TAPE 23, B |
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015 |
Pearson |
Testifies in support of SB 414. Expresses support for extending the kindergarten instruction time beyond 2.5 hours per day. Discusses reasons why it would be beneficial. Stresses importance of extending the length of instruction time but that full day kindergarten would be too much for students and teachers. |
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060 |
Lewis |
Testifies in support of SB 414. Mentions Topeka Public Schools full day kindergarten impact study done. |
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100 |
Sen. Kruse |
Requests information on the comparison of curriculum between half day and full day kindergarten. |
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105 |
Pearson |
Discusses what the Beaverton School District has done with their Title 1 funding for extended day kindergarten. |
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112 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Stresses that fun has to be built into kindergarten. |
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115 |
Pearson |
States that some of the students were overwhelmed but that teachers tried to make the material fun. |
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127 |
Lewis |
Comments that there are social and emotional goals for children in addition to academic expectations. |
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145 |
Marcia Kelley |
American Association of University Women of Oregon (AAUW). Testifies on SB 414. Talks about funding options for extended day kindergarten. States that AAUW is one of the associations that has been advocating for kindergarten the longest in the state of Oregon. |
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180 |
Chair Walker |
Shares appreciation for the tenacity of AAUW. |
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185 |
Kelley |
Reports that it is the 100th year anniversary of AAUW in Oregon. |
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193 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if SB 414 has a subsequent referral to Revenue. |
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195 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Replies yes. |
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198 |
Chair Walker |
States that there is not a work session scheduled for SB 414. Asks Sen. Deckert if he is getting funding formula bills. |
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200 |
Sen. Deckert |
Replies yes. |
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203 |
Chair Walker |
States that SB 414 will be on the agenda for a work session next week and that she hopes to move it to Revenue. |
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211 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Mentions that he and Sen. Deckert are both on the Revenue committee. |
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213 |
Sen. Kruse |
States that it would probably be okay in their hands. |
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214 |
Chair Walker |
Comments that SB 415 will probably go to Revenue as well. |
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216 |
Sen. Kruse |
States that SB 415 will not be sent to Revenue next week. |
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218 |
Chair Walker |
Responds that the work group has until March 28th to report back to the committee on SB 415. |
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220 |
Chair Walker |
Closes public hearing and adjourns meeting at 4:51 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY