SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE
March 02, 2005 Hearing Room D
3:00 P.M. Tapes 38 - 40
Corrected 10/19/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Vicki Walker, Chair
Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ryan Deckert
Sen. Jeff Kruse
Sen. Bill Morrisette
STAFF PRESENT: Marjorie Taylor, Committee Administrator
Dawn Tuso, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Common School Fund - Informational Meeting
SB 383 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 325 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 467 – Public Hearing and Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 38, A |
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005 |
Chair Walker |
Calls meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. Mentions thesis on the History of the Irreducible School Fund in Oregon, written by Norman Ray Hawk in 1949. |
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023 |
Chair Walker |
Opens informational meeting on the common school fund. |
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INFORMATIONAL MEETING – COMMON SCHOOL FUND |
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024 |
Ann Hanus |
Director, Department of State Lands (DSL). Submits informational packet including a PowerPoint handout, a 2004 report on the in-lieu lands for schools in some western states, and brochure (EXHIBIT A). Discusses:
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120 |
Chair Walker |
Mentions situation where 30 politicians and one US senator went to jail over a fraud scheme. |
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124 |
Hanus |
Replies yes. |
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134 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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147 |
Chair Walker |
Talks about scenario where land was offered for no money down. |
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151 |
Hanus |
Replies that it is true. |
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159 |
Chair Walker |
Says that Oregon did not do a good job at managing the land. |
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164 |
Hanus |
Replies yes. Explains situation. |
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185 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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289 |
Chair Walker |
Asks what permit fees and fines they receive. |
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290 |
Hanus |
Explains that the permit fees are primarily from the removal fill program. |
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295 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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308 |
Chair Walker |
Mentions the wave energy project in Reedsport. Asks if they will receive money from that project. |
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310 |
Hanus |
Replies yes. |
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313 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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339 |
Chair Walker |
Asks about Arizona making money off of a resort that they built on some land. |
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340 |
Hanus |
Replies yes and explains. Talks about leasing out land for commercial development. |
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366 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if we have water rights in Oregon. |
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368 |
Hanus |
Replies yes. |
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370 |
Sen. Kruse |
Says that Arizona purchases most of their water. |
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377 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Clarifies that there is a large subterranean reservoir that is being drawn on in Arizona. Asks who has the water rights to the reservoir. |
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384 |
Hanus |
Replies that she does not know who has the water rights. |
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385 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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395 |
Chair Walker |
Asks where the bulk of the lands are located. |
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397 |
Hanus |
Replies the range lands in southeastern Oregon. |
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400 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if the lands are leased out to ranchers. |
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402 |
Hanus |
Replies yes. Says they may be leased out for other purposes as well. |
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410 |
Chair Walker |
Talks about geothermal sites in Oregon. |
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415 |
Hanus |
States that there are some areas in Oregon that could be potentially valuable. |
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418 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about the three-mile limit. Talks about the fishery. Asks about licensing royalties. |
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419 |
Hanus |
Says Oregon does not receive royalties from the fish industry. |
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TAPE 39, A |
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005 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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028 |
Sen. Kruse |
Mentions that ten years ago it could have been a much different scale. |
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033 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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051 |
Chair Walker |
Asks how long property is held before the state takes ownership of it. |
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053 |
Hanus |
Explains. |
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057 |
Chair Walker |
Asks what the oldest money is that is being held on to. |
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058 |
Hanus |
Replies that she is unsure, but that it is pretty old. |
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063 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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070 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks if they are separate in perpetuities. |
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072 |
Hanus |
Responds that they are not part of the in perpetuity. |
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078 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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120 |
Chair Walker |
Asks about a 1992 court ruling where Oregon was owed approximately 5,200 acres of land by the federal government. Asks why it is taking so long to get the land and where they are in the process. |
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128 |
Hanus |
Defers to Steve Purchase to provide information. |
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132 |
Steve Purchase |
Assistant Director, Department of State Lands. Addresses Sen. Walker’s question regarding the court case in Oregon. |
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162 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if Oregon paid interest on what we owed. |
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163 |
Purchase |
Replies no. |
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165 |
Chair Walker |
Asks if DSL is negotiating for land primarily in Deschutes County. |
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168 |
Purchase |
Replies yes and explains in detail. |
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200 |
Chair Walker |
Asks when DSL expects to have the balance of the 3,200 acres resolved. |
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202 |
Purchase |
Replies approximately two years and explains in detail. |
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245 |
Hanus |
Continues discussion on:
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290 |
Chuck Bennett |
Confederation of Oregon School Administrators. Discusses involvement with the CSF. Talks about beneficiary activities. Talks about activity with the DSL budget. |
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375 |
Chair Walker |
Thanks Ann Hanus for her work and involvement. |
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384 |
Bennett |
Expresses excitement about the project. |
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392 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks about natural resources within a three-mile limit on the land. |
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398 |
Bennett |
Explains. |
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410 |
Tricia Smith |
Oregon School Employees Association. Discusses involvement with the CSF. |
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TAPE 38, B |
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010 |
John Marshall |
Oregon School Boards Association. Talks about involvement with the CSF. |
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030 |
Laurie Wimmer Whelan |
Oregon Education Association. Talks about involvement with the CSF. Mentions SB 845. |
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046 |
Chair Walker |
Asks what committee SB 845 is in right now. |
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047 |
Wimmer Whelan |
Replies that it is assigned to the Senate Revenue Committee. |
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048 |
Andi Jordan |
Parent Teacher Association. Talks about support for the CSF. |
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059 |
Chair Walker |
Points out that Ann Hanus initiated contact with Sen. Walker. |
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069 |
Chair Walker |
Closes informational meeting and opens public hearing on SB 383. |
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SB 383 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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075 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 383. Mentions written testimony submitted for the record without public testimony by Diana Gordon from the Oregon Health Science University (EXHIBIT B). |
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082 |
Rep. Betty Komp |
Represents House District 22. Testifies in support of SB 383. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C). |
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104 |
Sen. Deckert |
Represents Senate District. Testifies in support of SB 383. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D). |
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137 |
Kelly Peterson |
Humane Society of United States. Testifies in support of SB 383. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E). |
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168 |
Chair Walker |
Asks how many students do not want to dissect animals. |
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177 |
Peterson |
Replies that she doesn’t have an exact figure to provide. |
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192 |
Sen. Kruse |
Says that he doesn’t think the number is important. |
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193 |
Chair Walker |
Agrees. |
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201 |
Paula Wilson |
Multnomah County Resident. Testifies in support of SB 383. |
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240 |
Dr. Courtney Dillard |
Professor, Willamette University. Testifies in support of SB 383. |
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273 |
Marcia Keith |
Oregon Veterinary Medical Association. Testifies on SB 383. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT F). Expresses concerns with SB 383. |
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333 |
Chair Walker |
Says, by the time a veterinary student enters college, they should know that they are going to have to dissect something. |
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335 |
Keith |
Responds that it would seem so but that there have been times when newly graduated veterinarians have had virtually no experience with dissection. |
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347 |
Chair Walker |
Closes public hearing on SB 383 and opens a work session on SB 383. |
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SB 383 – WORK SESSION |
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350 |
Sen. C. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 383 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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354 |
Sen. Kruse |
Comments that SB 383 offers some flexibility in the K-12 system and feels that it is an appropriate move. |
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365 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Walker |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. DECKERT will lead discussion on the floor. |
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375 |
Chair Walker |
Closes the work session and opens a public hearing on SB 325. |
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SB 325 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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380 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 325. States that there is a subsequent referral to Revenue. |
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392 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Represents Senate District 6. Testifies in support of SB 325. |
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415 |
Bob Cassidy |
Lane County resident. Testifies in support of SB 325. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G). |
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TAPE 39, B |
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005 |
Cassidy |
Continues testimony on SB 325. |
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029 |
Don Bishoff |
Legislative Assistant, Sen. Morrisette’s Office. Testifies on SB 325. |
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032 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Comments that he is enthusiastically supportive of SB 325. Says he would like to see it go to the Revenue committee. |
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048 |
Susan Boyanovsky |
Department of Community Colleges and Workforce Development. Testifies on SB 325. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT H). |
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077 |
Sen. Kruse |
Talks about the budget constraints that community colleges are under. Says that SB 325 offers a method of allowing people who may not otherwise be able to access community college to do so. Asks why she would be neutral to SB 325 when it increases opportunity. |
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083 |
Boyanovsky |
Explains. |
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090 |
Ed Glad |
United Brotherhood of Carpenters. Testifies in opposition to SB 325. Reports that, if the apprenticeship programs are taken out, he would support SB 325. |
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158 |
Chair Walker |
Thinks that SB 325 will be moved to Revenue. |
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164 |
Chair Walker |
Closes public hearing and opens a work session on SB 325. |
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SB 325 – WORK SESSION |
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165 |
Sen. C. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 325 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Revenue. |
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168 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Addresses concerns of Ed Glad. Says that he does not see the connection between the apprenticeship program and the students in general. Says that he does not think it would make a difference to remove the apprenticeship program. |
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180 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Walker |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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184 |
Chair Walker |
Closes work session and opens public hearing on SB 467. |
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SB 467 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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193 |
Marjorie Taylor |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 467. States that there is a subsequent referral to Ways and Means. |
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202 |
Rep. Debi Farr |
Represents House District 14. Testifies in support of SB 467. |
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247 |
Sen. Ryan Deckert |
Represents Senate District 14. Testifies in support of SB 467. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I). |
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280 |
Pat Farr |
Executive Director, Food for Lane County. Testifies in support of SB 467. |
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380 |
Joyce Dougherty |
Oregon Department of Education. Testifies in support of SB 467. Submits written testimony, SB 287 from 2003, and the 2004 SB 287 Report to the Interim Committees on Education (EXHIBIT J). |
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TAPE 40, A |
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005 |
Dougherty |
Continues testimony on SB 467. |
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026 |
Sen. Kruse |
Thanks the Department of Education. |
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030 |
Tina Kotek |
Policy Director, Children First for Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 467. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K). |
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053 |
Ellen Lowe |
Legislative Advocate, Oregon Food Bank. Testifies in support of SB 467. |
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100 |
Norene Goplen |
Lead Convener, Oregon Faith Roundtable Against Hunger. Testifies in support of SB 467. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L). |
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172 |
Phillip Kennedy Wong |
Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 467. Submits list of eligible schools of >50% free and reduced eligibility (EXHIBIT M). |
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210 |
Cynthia Hanna |
Community member. Testifies in support of SB 467. |
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252 |
Chair Walker |
Mentions comment regarding food stamps not increasing during the summer months. |
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258 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Comments that “Cynthia Hanna is a wonderful mother who has worked very hard to provide for her children and advance her own education and opportunity in this world.” |
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273 |
Chair Walker |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 467. |
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SB 467 – WORK SESSION |
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275 |
Sen. C. Starr |
MOTION: Moves SB 467 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Morrisette |
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Chair Walker |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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285 |
Chair Walker |
Closes work session and adjourns meeting at 5:25 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY