SENATE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE

 

 

March 28, 2005                                                                                                       Hearing Room D

6:00 P.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes  63 - 64

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Vicki Walker, Chair

Sen. Charles Starr, Vice-Chair

Sen. Ryan Deckert

Sen. Jeff Kruse

Sen. Bill Morrisette

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Marjorie Taylor, Committee Administrator

Dawn Tuso, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

SB 769 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 63, A

005

Chair Walker

Calls meeting to order at 6:10 p.m. and opens a public hearing on SB 769.

SB 769 – PUBLIC HEARING

025

Sen. Peter Courtney

Represents Senate District 11. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A).

047

Chair Walker

Asks what happened with SB 10 from the 72nd Legislative Session.

049

Sen. Courtney

Explains.

055

Marjorie Taylor

Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 769. Mentions testimony submitted for the record from Joe DiNicola (EXHIBIT B).  

070

David McDonald

Director of Enrollment and Student Services, Oregon University System. Testifies on SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C).

114

Chair Walker

Asks if the Legislative Fiscal Office is preparing a revised fiscal statement.

116

McDonald

Replies that the Legislative Fiscal Office is working on the statement.

120

Javier Cervantes

Oregon State University. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony on behalf of Edward Ray from Oregon State University (EXHIBIT D).

150

Scott Lu

Co-Chair, Oregon Students of Color Coalition. Testifies on SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E).

184

Chair Walker

Asks question regarding requirement for student to become a citizen or legal resident alien.

187

Lu

Replies yes.

188

Chair Walker

Expresses concern regarding whether or not there is a timeline for the student to become a resident or legal resident alien.  

192

Lu

Replies that he does not have the information but would be happy to return the information to the committee.

195

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if community colleges would charge in-state tuition.

199

Lu

Explains.

202

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if the student would have to pay out-of-state tuition if they transferred from a community college to a university.

205

Lu

Replies yes.

210

Sen. Kruse

Asks what happens if the student is emancipated.

212

Lu

Replies that he is unsure of the answer.

233

Elizabeth Van Staaveren

Citizen. Testifies on SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT F).

238

Jim Elvin

Citizen. Testifies on SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G).

243

Jim Ludwick

Citizen. Testifies on SB 769. Submits informational packet (EXHIBIT H).

334

Chair Walker

Asks question regarding testimony. Asks if the information is enclosed in the submitted material.

337

Ludwick

Replies yes and explains.  Continues testimony on SB 769.

TAPE 64, A

001

Ludwick

Continues testimony on SB 769.

006

Chair Walker

Reads paragraph from submitted material. Comments on paragraph.

014

Ludwick

Responds to comment.

030

Phillip Kennedy-Wong

Ecumenical Ministries of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 769.

070

Chair Walker

Says that SB 769 anticipates that a timeline will be put in place.

075

Kennedy-Wong

Responds to comment.

081

Cassandra Villanvera

Resident, Portland. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I).

105

Anthony Granados

Oregon Catholic Conference. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J).

138

Peter Dane

Citizen. Testifies on SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K). Asks for a copy of the fiscal impact statement for SB 769.

144

Chair Walker

Explains that the statement is not prepared yet but that he is welcome to have a copy as soon as it is prepared.

147

Dane

Continues testimony on SB 769.

168

Chair Walker

Says that she was not aware that students at Chemawa School are not eligible for in-state tuition.

172

Richard Hickey

Resident, Salem. Testifies in opposition to SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L).

223

Chair Walker

Says that a great deal of the English language money comes from federal dollars.

225

Hickey

Comments that “the Federal Government gets their money from all of us.“

228

Doug Smith

Citizen. Testifies on SB 769.

243

Sen. Deckert

Asks, “how do I in any way deny that student or that individual their God given right to excel and to fulfill their lives by increasing their tuition.”

264

Smith

Responds to  Sen. Deckert’s question.

274

Hickey

Responds to  Sen. Deckert’s question.

294

Chair Walker

Reports that she has asked the committee administrator to research whether or not tuition rates were raised in the thirteen states that passed the legislation and whether the increase was related to the legislation.

303

Sen. Deckert

Talks about the national disinvestment in higher education.

317

Dane

Responds to Sen. Deckert’s comment.

335

Sen. C. Starr

Comments that additional money would be received if the legislation was passed.

350

Smith

Asks where the money would come from.

351

Sen. C. Starr

Replies that it would come from the in-state tuition.

363

Smith

Comments on the $10,000 difference.

374

Sen. C. Starr

Replies that there would not be a loss if the individuals did not enroll.

386

Smith

Responds.

390

Sen. C. Starr

Replies that there would not be an additional cost.

392

Dane

Responds to comments.

412

Eduardo Angulo

Chairman, Salem-Keizer Coalition for Equality. Testifies in support of SB 769.

TAPE 63, B

001

Angulo

Continues testimony on SB 769.

029

Natividad Silva

Testifies in support of SB 769.

056

Chair Walker

Asks if she has a social security card and if she pays taxes.

058

Silva

Replies that she pays taxes.

061

Amy Torres

Student, Western Oregon University. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT M).

083

Chair Walker

Comments on testimony. Asks how long Torres has lived in Oregon.

094

Torres

Replies that she was born in Oregon.

098

Chair Walker

Asks if Torres has resident status.

099

Torres

Replies yes.

100

Chair Walker

Asks Angulo to comment on the English as a Second Language (ESL) program money.

101

Angulo

Explains.

114

Sen. Kruse

Asks the committee administrator for information on the number of students budgeted for annually.

130

David Hamilton

Citizen. Testifies in opposition to SB 769.

148

Henry Hammond

Citizen. Testifies in opposition to SB 769.

181

Chair Walker

Disputes comment that there is a waiting list to get into Oregon universities.

185

Sen. Deckert

Says that there are a few universities that are declining enrollment.

191

Hammond

Asks if Oregon is at its highest level of enrollment.

192

Sen. Deckert

Says that there are still many Oregon universities that would welcome new enrollment.

196

Mike Forrest

Citizen. Testifies in opposition to SB 769.

238

Rosa

Student. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT N).

267

Yensy Raya

Student, Western Oregon University. Testifies in support of SB 769.

311

Sen. Morrisette

Asks about the process of becoming a legal resident.

315

Raya

Talks about the process of becoming a legal resident.

332

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if it is state or federal residency.

335

Raya

Replies that it was federal residency.

345

Alice Perry

American Friends Service Committee, Project Voice. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT O).

TAPE 64, B

003

Ludwig Hitz

Citizen. Testifies in opposition to SB 769.

019

Howard Grimms

Citizen. Testifies in opposition to SB 769.

033

Sue Hitz

Citizen. Testifies in opposition to SB 769.

080

Silvio Poot

High School Student. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT P).

152

Antonio Torres

Student, Western Oregon University. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Q).

178

Jose de Jesus Sandoval-Arellano

Teacher, South Salem High School. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT R).

225

Jazmin Arias

Student, Chemeketa Community College. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT S).

292

Miguel Figueroa

High School Student. Testifies in support of SB 769. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT T).

348

Oscar Morrales

Testifies in support of SB 769.

 

Wendy Veliz Buck

Chair, Oregon Council for Hispanic Advancement (OCHA). Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT U).

405

Chair Walker

Closes public hearing and adjourns meeting at 8:05 p.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. SB 769, written testimony, Sen. Peter Courtney, 2 pp
  2. SB 769, written testimony, Joe DiNicola, 1 p
  3. SB 769, written testimony, David Mc Donald, 3 pp
  4. SB 769, written testimony, Edward Ray, 2 pp
  5. SB 769, written testimony, Scott Lu, 2 pp
  6. SB 769, written testimony, Elizabeth Van Staaveren, 2 pp
  7. SB 769, written testimony, Jim Elvin, 1 p
  8. SB 769, informational packet, Jim Ludwick, 10 pp
  9. SB 769, written testimony, Cassandra Villanueva, 1 p
  10. SB 769, written testimony, Anthony Granados, 1 p
  11. SB 769, written testimony, Peter Dane, 3 pp
  12. SB 769, written testimony, Richard Hickey, 2 pp
  13. SB 769, written testimony, Amy Torres, 1 pp
  14. SB 769, written testimony, Rosa, 1 p
  15. SB 769, written testimony, Alice Perry, 2 pp
  16. SB 769, written testimony, Silvio Poot, 1 p
  17. SB 769, written testimony, Antonio Torres, 1 p
  18. SB 769, written testimony, Jose de Jesus Sandoval-Arellano, 1 p
  19. SB 769, written testimony, Jazmin Arias, 2 p
  20. SB 769, written testimony, Miguel Figueroa, 1 p
  21. SB 769, written testimony, Wendy Veliz Buck, 1 p