SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE

 

 

March 07, 2005                                                                                                       Hearing Room B

3:00 P.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes  37 - 38

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair

Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Ginny Burdick

Sen. Frank Shields

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Matt Shields, Committee Administrator

Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:

                                                Bear Butte & Booth Fires – Presentation

SB 358 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 735 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 736 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 737 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 834 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 37, A

005

Chair Ringo

Calls meeting to order at 3:03 p.m. Announces that the committee will depart from the agenda to allow a presentation on the B & B Fires.

BEAR BUTTE & BOOTH FIRES – PRESENTATION

020

Joe Keating

Oregon Wildlife Federation. Gives presentation on the Bear Butte & Booth (B & B) Fires. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A) and a CD containing additional written testimony (EXHIBIT B).

070

Rus Taylor

Chief Investigator, B & B Report. Gives presentation on the B & B Fire.

125

Sen. Beyer

Asks about witness’ credentials.

130

Keating

States that they are environmentalists. Discusses flaws in investigations previously done. Discusses Central Oregon Arson Task Force and conflict of interest.

160

Sen. Beyer

States that he doesn’t believe these are facts. Believes that the investigation was not flawed.

170

Keating

Responds.

205

Sen. Beyer

Refers to visual aids. Verifies that witness said circles on visual aid are 99 percent accurate and not 100 percent accurate.

207

Keating

Confirms this.

209

Sen. Beyer

Asks how witness can say that it is a fact that it could not be lightning.

211

Keating

Discusses one percent and wording of probable arson.

220

Sen. Beyer

Responds.

225

Keating

Makes additional comments on the fire.

235

Chair Ringo

Closes presentation on the B & B Fires and opens public hearing on SB 358.

SB 358 – PUBLIC HEARING

240

Rep. Steve March

Represents House District 36. States that he co-sponsored SB 538 along with Sen. Ferrioli. Introduces SB 358.

270

Ed Glad

Pacific Northwest Regional Council of Carpenters. Testifies in support of SB 358.

300

Jennifer Hampel

Coordinator, Coquille Watershed Association. Testifies in support of SB 358.

330

James Johnson

Executive Director, Cascadia Wildlands Project. Testifies in support of SB 358.

360

Denny Scott

Carpenter’s Union and Western Council of Industrial Workers. Submits definition sheet for SB 358 (EXHIBIT C). Testifies in support of SB 358.

415

Sen. Ted Ferrioli

Represents Senate District 30. States that the testimony he has heard reflects pretty accurately the intent of SB 358. Gives background information for SB 358. Testifies in support of SB 358.

TAPE 38, A

040

Sen. Atkinson

Says that he is ready to move SB 358.

045

Chair Ringo

 Asks about fiscal impact. Sates that it has a subsequent referral to the Ways and Means Committee.

047

Bill Kluting

Western Council of Industrial Workers. Discusses fiscal impact.

057

Chair Ringo

Asks if witness wants SB 358 referred to the Ways and Means Committee or to the Senate floor.

058

Kluting

Explains. States that he wants it sent to the Senate floor.

060

Sen. Shields

Discusses fiscal impact.

073

Chair Ringo

States that the committee can pass SB 358 directly to the Senate floor.

080

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing on SB 358 and opens work session on SB 358.

SB 358 – WORK SESSION

081

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves SB 358 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

085

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. FERRIOLI will lead discussion on the floor.

090

Chair Ringo

Closes work session on SB 358 and opens public hearing on SB 735.

SB 735 – PUBLIC HEARING

100

Mike Grainey

Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 735. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

130

Chair Ringo

Asks question about language regarding loans.

135

Grainey

Gives details.

143

Chair Ringo

Discusses purpose of original language.

145

Grainey

Responds.

160

Tom O’Connor

Director, Oregon Municipal Electric Utilities Association. Testifies in support of SB 735.

173

Chair Ringo

Asks witness to explain Section 2 of SB 735.

183

Grainey

Discusses changes.

196

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 735.

SB 735 – WORK SESSION

200

Sen. Beyer

MOTION:  Moves SB 735 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

 

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor.

203

Chair Ringo

Closes work session on SB 735 and opens public hearing on SB 736.

SB 736 – PUBLIC HEARING

207

Matt Shields

Committee Administrator. Introduces SB 735.

210

Mike Grainey

Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 736. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E).

238

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 736.

SB 736 – WORK SESSION

240

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves SB 736 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

 

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor.

250

Chair Ringo

Closes work session on SB 736 and opens public hearing on SB 737.

SB 737 – PUBLIC HEARING

255

Mike Grainey

Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 737. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT F).

280

Chair Ringo

Asks what SB 737 will allow.

282

Grainey

Discusses what SB 737 will allow.

290

Chair Ringo

Asks clarification question.

292

Grainey

Explains.

303

Chair Ringo

Asks if anyone besides the military department has expressed interest.

305

Grainey

Responds.

310

Chair Ringo

Asks if universities would be able to put up solar panels without SB 737.

311

Grainey

Explains.

315

Sen. Beyer

Asks question regarding process for funding projects.

325

Grainey

Explains.

335

Tom O’Connor

Director, Oregon Municipal Electric Utilities Association. Testifies in support of SB 737.

342

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 737.

SB 737 – WORK SESSION

345

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves SB 737 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

 

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor.

355

Chair Ringo

Closes work session on SB 737 and opens public hearing on SB 834.

SB 834 – PUBLIC HEARING

360

Mike Grainey

Oregon Department of Energy (ODE). Gives background information on SB 834. Explains why the ODE does not have a position on SB 834.

TAPE 37, B

002

Chair Ringo

Asks about lottery bonds.

005

Grainey

Explains.

011

Alice Bibler

Association of Oregon Counties. Testifies in support of SB 834. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G).

040

Paul Woodin

Western Windpower. Discusses renewable energy projects in Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 834.

055

Gary Thompson

Sherman County Judge. Testifies in support of SB 834.

070

Tom O’Connor

Director, Oregon Municipal Electric Utilities Association. Testifies in support of SB 834.

079

Chair Ringo

States that he wants to hold SB 834 for now. Closes public hearing on SB 834 and adjourns meeting at 4:07 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A.     B & B Fires, written testimony, Joe Keating, 7 pp

B.     B & B Fires, written testimony, Joe Keating, CD

C.     SB 358, definition sheet, Denny Scott, 1 p

D.    SB 735, written testimony, Mike Grainey, 2 pp

E.     SB 736, written testimony, Mike Grainey, 2 pp

F.      SB 737, written testimony, Mike Grainey, 1 p

G.    SB 834, written testimony, Alice Bibler, 1 p