SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE
March 07, 2005 Hearing Room B
3:00 P.M. Tapes 37 - 38
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Ginny Burdick
Sen. Frank Shields
STAFF PRESENT: Matt Shields, Committee Administrator
Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Bear Butte & Booth Fires – Presentation
SB 358 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 735 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 736 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 737 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 834 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 37, A |
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005 |
Chair Ringo |
Calls meeting to order at 3:03 p.m. Announces that the committee will depart from the agenda to allow a presentation on the B & B Fires. |
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BEAR BUTTE & BOOTH FIRES – PRESENTATION |
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020 |
Joe Keating |
Oregon Wildlife Federation. Gives presentation on the Bear Butte & Booth (B & B) Fires. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT A) and a CD containing additional written testimony (EXHIBIT B). |
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070 |
Rus Taylor |
Chief Investigator, B & B Report. Gives presentation on the B & B Fire. |
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125 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about witness’ credentials. |
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130 |
Keating |
States that they are environmentalists. Discusses flaws in investigations previously done. Discusses Central Oregon Arson Task Force and conflict of interest. |
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160 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that he doesn’t believe these are facts. Believes that the investigation was not flawed. |
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170 |
Keating |
Responds. |
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205 |
Sen. Beyer |
Refers to visual aids. Verifies that witness said circles on visual aid are 99 percent accurate and not 100 percent accurate. |
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207 |
Keating |
Confirms this. |
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209 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks how witness can say that it is a fact that it could not be lightning. |
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211 |
Keating |
Discusses one percent and wording of probable arson. |
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220 |
Sen. Beyer |
Responds. |
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225 |
Keating |
Makes additional comments on the fire. |
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235 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes presentation on the B & B Fires and opens public hearing on SB 358. |
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SB 358 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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240 |
Rep. Steve March |
Represents House District 36. States that he co-sponsored SB 538 along with Sen. Ferrioli. Introduces SB 358. |
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270 |
Ed Glad |
Pacific Northwest Regional Council of Carpenters. Testifies in support of SB 358. |
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300 |
Jennifer Hampel |
Coordinator, Coquille Watershed Association. Testifies in support of SB 358. |
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330 |
James Johnson |
Executive Director, Cascadia Wildlands Project. Testifies in support of SB 358. |
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360 |
Denny Scott |
Carpenter’s Union and Western Council of Industrial Workers. Submits definition sheet for SB 358 (EXHIBIT C). Testifies in support of SB 358. |
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415 |
Sen. Ted Ferrioli |
Represents Senate District 30. States that the testimony he has heard reflects pretty accurately the intent of SB 358. Gives background information for SB 358. Testifies in support of SB 358. |
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TAPE 38, A |
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040 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Says that he is ready to move SB 358. |
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045 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks about fiscal impact. Sates that it has a subsequent referral to the Ways and Means Committee. |
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047 |
Bill Kluting |
Western Council of Industrial Workers. Discusses fiscal impact. |
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057 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if witness wants SB 358 referred to the Ways and Means Committee or to the Senate floor. |
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058 |
Kluting |
Explains. States that he wants it sent to the Senate floor. |
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060 |
Sen. Shields |
Discusses fiscal impact. |
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073 |
Chair Ringo |
States that the committee can pass SB 358 directly to the Senate floor. |
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080 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes public hearing on SB 358 and opens work session on SB 358. |
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SB 358 – WORK SESSION |
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081 |
Sen. Atkinson |
MOTION: Moves SB 358 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Burdick |
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085 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. FERRIOLI will lead discussion on the floor. |
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090 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 358 and opens public hearing on SB 735. |
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SB 735 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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100 |
Mike Grainey |
Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 735. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D). |
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130 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks question about language regarding loans. |
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135 |
Grainey |
Gives details. |
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143 |
Chair Ringo |
Discusses purpose of original language. |
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145 |
Grainey |
Responds. |
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160 |
Tom O’Connor |
Director, Oregon Municipal Electric Utilities Association. Testifies in support of SB 735. |
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173 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks witness to explain Section 2 of SB 735. |
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183 |
Grainey |
Discusses changes. |
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196 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 735. |
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SB 735 – WORK SESSION |
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200 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves SB 735 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Burdick |
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Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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203 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 735 and opens public hearing on SB 736. |
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SB 736 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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207 |
Matt Shields |
Committee Administrator. Introduces SB 735. |
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210 |
Mike Grainey |
Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 736. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E). |
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238 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 736. |
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SB 736 – WORK SESSION |
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240 |
Sen. Atkinson |
MOTION: Moves SB 736 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Burdick |
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Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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250 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 736 and opens public hearing on SB 737. |
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SB 737 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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255 |
Mike Grainey |
Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 737. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT F). |
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280 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks what SB 737 will allow. |
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282 |
Grainey |
Discusses what SB 737 will allow. |
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290 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks clarification question. |
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292 |
Grainey |
Explains. |
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303 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if anyone besides the military department has expressed interest. |
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305 |
Grainey |
Responds. |
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310 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if universities would be able to put up solar panels without SB 737. |
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311 |
Grainey |
Explains. |
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315 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks question regarding process for funding projects. |
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325 |
Grainey |
Explains. |
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335 |
Tom O’Connor |
Director, Oregon Municipal Electric Utilities Association. Testifies in support of SB 737. |
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342 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes public hearing and opens work session on SB 737. |
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SB 737 – WORK SESSION |
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345 |
Sen. Atkinson |
MOTION: Moves SB 737 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Burdick |
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Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. ATKINSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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355 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 737 and opens public hearing on SB 834. |
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SB 834 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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360 |
Mike Grainey |
Oregon Department of Energy (ODE). Gives background information on SB 834. Explains why the ODE does not have a position on SB 834. |
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TAPE 37, B |
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002 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks about lottery bonds. |
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005 |
Grainey |
Explains. |
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011 |
Alice Bibler |
Association of Oregon Counties. Testifies in support of SB 834. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G). |
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040 |
Paul Woodin |
Western Windpower. Discusses renewable energy projects in Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 834. |
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055 |
Gary Thompson |
Sherman County Judge. Testifies in support of SB 834. |
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070 |
Tom O’Connor |
Director, Oregon Municipal Electric Utilities Association. Testifies in support of SB 834. |
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079 |
Chair Ringo |
States that he wants to hold SB 834 for now. Closes public hearing on SB 834 and adjourns meeting at 4:07 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. B & B Fires, written testimony, Joe Keating, 7 pp
B. B & B Fires, written testimony, Joe Keating, CD
C. SB 358, definition sheet, Denny Scott, 1 p
D. SB 735, written testimony, Mike Grainey, 2 pp
E. SB 736, written testimony, Mike Grainey, 2 pp
F. SB 737, written testimony, Mike Grainey, 1 p
G. SB 834, written testimony, Alice Bibler, 1 p