SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE
March 09, 2005 Hearing Room B
3:00 P.M. Tapes 39 - 40
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Frank Shields
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick
STAFF PRESENT: Matt Shields, Committee Administrator
Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
Oregon’s Ocean – Informational Meeting
SB 354 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 39, A |
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005 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Calls meeting to order at 3:04 p.m. Opens informational meeting on Oregon’s Ocean. |
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OREGON’S OCEAN – INFORMATIONAL MEETING |
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010 |
Carolyn Waldron |
Director, Oregon Ocean. Submits informational packet on Oregon’s Ocean (EXHIBIT A). Introduces video presentation. |
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090-400 |
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Video presentation: “Common Ground: Oregon’s Ocean” (EXHIBIT B). |
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TAPE 40, A |
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001 |
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Continuation of video presentation: “Common Ground: Oregon’s Ocean” (EXHIBIT B). |
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080 |
Waldron |
States three panelists were invited today. Introduces panelists. |
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100 |
Terry Thompson |
Lincoln County Commission. States that they are here to answer questions. |
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105 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Asks Mark Hixon if sites for marine reserves are mapped and identified along the Oregon coast. |
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115 |
Dr. Mark Hixon |
Professor, Oregon State University. States that there has been no identification of marine reserves yet. Discusses mapping of sea floor habitats. Submits a fact sheet (EXHIBIT C). |
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120 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Asks what else needs to be done to identify areas for marine reserves. |
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123 |
Hixon |
Explains what would need to be done. States that the question is what the goals of the reserves are. Gives examples of goals. |
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133 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Asks question about federal funding in relation to mapping. |
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135 |
Hixon |
Discusses funding. |
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140 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks Mr. Thompson about his position on marine reserves. |
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145 |
Thompson |
Discusses position on marine reserves. |
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156 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks if these reserves would be inside state or federal territory. |
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160 |
Thompson |
Discusses what could be considered by the state legislature. |
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165 |
Hixon |
Says that it makes sense to have reserves integrated between state and federal waters. Explains why. |
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175 |
Thompson |
Discusses research necessary. |
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190 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Asks Mr. Hixon about difference between protecting a single species and a habitat. |
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200 |
Hixon |
Discusses intent of marine reserves. Discusses maintenance of marine reserves. |
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215 |
Sen. Shields |
Discusses personal experience regarding the Gulf of Mexico. Asks about creating marine reserves inside state territory only. Asks what can be learned from the marine reserves created off the New England and Florida coasts. |
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240 |
Thompson |
Discusses what has been learned from other marine reserves. |
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257 |
Sen. Shields |
States that a lot of common-sense old fishermen are involved in the process. |
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265 |
Rep. Carolyn Tomei |
Represents House District 41. Asks if there are any marine reserves in Oregon. |
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270 |
Hixon |
States that there is officially one in Oregon. Explains. |
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275 |
Rep. Tomei |
Asks how the marine reserves in Puget Sound and on the East Coast are funded. |
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277 |
Hixon |
Explains funding. Addresses Sen. Shield’s previous question about what has been learned from other reserves. |
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300 |
Rep. Tomei |
Verifies that marine reserves might be needed in several different places. |
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305 |
Hixon |
Confirms this. |
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306 |
Rep. Tomei |
Refers to bottom-trolling mentioned in the video. Asks if bottom-trolling is allowed all over the state. |
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308 |
Thompson |
Discusses bottom-trolling. |
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333 |
Rep. Tomei |
Verifies that bottom-trolling is not allowed close to the Oregon shore. |
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335 |
Thompson |
Clarifies. |
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347 |
Paul Engelmeyer |
National Audubon Society. Discusses Goal 19. Discusses protecting marine biodiversity. |
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377 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Mentions issue of duck habitat that was brought up in the video. Asks witness to make comment about bird species on the coast. |
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384 |
Engelmeyer |
Explains. |
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400 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Asks Mr. Hixon how far apart marine reserves are spaced. |
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405 |
Hixon |
Discusses location of marine reserves. |
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TAPE 39, B |
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Thompson |
Discusses location of marine reserves. |
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020 |
Hixon |
Refers to existing studies of marine reserves. |
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035 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Closes informational meeting and opens public hearing on SB 354. |
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SB 354 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Sen. David Nelson |
Represents Senate District 29. Introduces Ross Seyfried. |
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060 |
Ross Seyfried |
Resident, Union County. Presents photographs from CD (EXHIBIT D). |
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078 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Asks if witness took the photographs presented. |
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080 |
Seyfried |
Replies yes. |
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081 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Says that they are beautiful. |
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082 |
Seyfried |
Testifies in support of SB 354. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E). |
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135 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about specific details in Section 3 of SB 354. Asks about 5,000 acres. |
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145 |
Seyfried |
Explains. |
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152 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks approximately how many ranches would be in 5,000 acres or larger in Union County. |
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155 |
Seyfried |
States that he does not know that information. Gives additional details. |
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162 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about Union County. |
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165 |
Sen. Nelson |
States that it is La Grande. |
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167 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks question about Section 4 of SB 354. |
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170 |
Seyfried |
Explains. |
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188 |
Sen. Beyer |
Verifies that the number of antler and antler-less tags have to be equal. |
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190 |
Seyfried |
Replies not necessarily. Explains. |
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200 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Asks witness to stay around in case there are more questions. |
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205 |
John Lamoreau |
Union County Commissioner. Testifies in support of SB 354. Discusses similar program in Colorado. |
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245 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks how many parcels in Union County would be 5,000 acres or larger. |
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246 |
Lamoreau |
Guesses about 20. |
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250 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks if there could be more than 20 if the aggregation principle discussed earlier was applied. |
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251 |
Lamoreau |
Replies yes. Explains. |
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260 |
Roy Elicker |
Deputy Director, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW). States that there are 16 parcels in Union County that are 5,000 acres or larger. Discusses SB 354. |
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320 |
Ron Anglin |
Wildlife Division Administrator, ODFW. Submits and highlights written testimony (EXHIBIT F). |
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415 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks what other states have done about animals wandering off to adjacent properties and creating damage. |
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420 |
Anglin |
States that Colorado did not address this issue. |
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445 |
Anglin |
Continues highlighting written testimony (EXHIBIT F). |
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TAPE 40, B |
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001 |
Anglin |
Continues highlighting written testimony (EXHIBIT F). |
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033 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks if Mr. Elicker has talked to Sen. Nelson about SB 354. |
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035 |
Elicker |
Replies no, not directly. |
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036 |
Sen. Shields |
Suggests that Mr. Elicker talk to Sen. Nelson about the ODFW’s concerns. |
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045 |
Elicker |
States that the ODFW will work with Union County on a pilot program. Expresses uncertainty that this will be a good program for the state of Oregon. |
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048 |
Sen. Shields |
Explains that this is the reason a pilot program is implemented. |
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050 |
Elicker |
Agrees. Expresses willingness to return to the committee with recommendations. |
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055 |
Sen. Shields |
States that he has a meeting and so he needs to excuse himself. |
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056 |
Sen. Beyer |
Agrees with Sen. Shield’s comments. Discusses potential concerns with program. Wonders if there is still some money that has not been spent for access and habitat. |
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066 |
Elicker |
Responds yes and explains. |
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071 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that he was asking for an update on access and habitat. Wonders why the money isn’t being used to get more access. |
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074 |
Anglin |
States that there is money available within the program. Describes efforts by the ODFW to expand access. |
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090 |
Sen. Beyer |
Discusses potential issues with SB 354. States that he would like to see these issues worked out. |
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105 |
Al Elkins |
Oregon Hunters Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 354. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G). States that he has talked with Sen. Nelson generally about opposition but not specifically. |
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135 |
Sen. Beyer |
Sees SB 354 as an opportunity to open up lands to the public. Discusses Sherman County. |
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155 |
Vice-Chair Atkinson |
Verifies that Sen. Nelson will help work out these issues. Closes public hearing on SB 354 and adjourns meeting at 4:42 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. Oregon’s Ocean, informational packet, Carolyn Waldron, 61 pp
B. Oregon’s Ocean, videotape, Carolyn Waldron, videotape
C. Oregon’s Ocean, fact sheet, Mark Hixon, 4 pp
D. SB 354, pictures, Ross Seyfried, CD
E. SB 354, written testimony, Ross Seyfried, 2 pp
F. SB 354, written testimony, Ron Anglin, 2 pp
G. SB 354, written testimony, Al Elkins, 2 pp