SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE

 

 

March 09, 2005                                                                                                       Hearing Room B

3:00 P.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes  39 - 40

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Frank Shields

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair

Sen. Ginny Burdick

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Matt Shields, Committee Administrator

Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

Oregon’s Ocean – Informational Meeting

SB 354 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 39, A

005

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Calls meeting to order at 3:04 p.m. Opens informational meeting on Oregon’s Ocean.

OREGON’S OCEAN – INFORMATIONAL MEETING

010

Carolyn Waldron

Director, Oregon Ocean. Submits informational packet on Oregon’s Ocean (EXHIBIT A). Introduces video presentation.

090-400

 

Video presentation: “Common Ground: Oregon’s Ocean” (EXHIBIT B).

TAPE 40, A

001

 

Continuation of video presentation: “Common Ground: Oregon’s Ocean” (EXHIBIT B).

080

Waldron

States three panelists were invited today. Introduces panelists.

100

Terry Thompson

Lincoln County Commission. States that they are here to answer questions.

105

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Asks Mark Hixon if sites for marine reserves are mapped and identified along the Oregon coast.

115

Dr. Mark Hixon

Professor, Oregon State University. States that there has been no identification of marine reserves yet. Discusses mapping of sea floor habitats. Submits a fact sheet (EXHIBIT C).

120

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Asks what else needs to be done to identify areas for marine reserves.

123

Hixon

Explains what would need to be done. States that the question is what the goals of the reserves are. Gives examples of goals.

133

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Asks question about federal funding in relation to mapping.

135

Hixon

Discusses funding.

140

Sen. Shields

Asks Mr. Thompson about his position on marine reserves.

145

Thompson

Discusses position on marine reserves.

156

Sen. Shields

Asks if these reserves would be inside state or federal territory.

160

Thompson

Discusses what could be considered by the state legislature.

165

Hixon

Says that it makes sense to have reserves integrated between state and federal waters. Explains why.

175

Thompson

Discusses research necessary.

190

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Asks Mr. Hixon about difference between protecting a single species and a habitat.

200

Hixon

Discusses intent of marine reserves. Discusses maintenance of marine reserves.

215

Sen. Shields

Discusses personal experience regarding the Gulf of Mexico. Asks about creating marine reserves inside state territory only. Asks what can be learned from the marine reserves created off the New England and Florida coasts.

240

Thompson

Discusses what has been learned from other marine reserves.

257

Sen. Shields

States that a lot of common-sense old fishermen are involved in the process.

265

Rep. Carolyn Tomei

Represents House District 41. Asks if there are any marine reserves in Oregon.

270

Hixon

States that there is officially one in Oregon. Explains.

275

Rep. Tomei

Asks how the marine reserves in Puget Sound and on the East Coast are funded.

277

Hixon

Explains funding. Addresses Sen. Shield’s previous question about what has been learned from other reserves.

300

Rep. Tomei

Verifies that marine reserves might be needed in several different places.

305

Hixon

Confirms this.

306

Rep. Tomei

Refers to bottom-trolling mentioned in the video. Asks if bottom-trolling is allowed all over the state.

308

Thompson

Discusses bottom-trolling.

333

Rep. Tomei

Verifies that bottom-trolling is not allowed close to the Oregon shore.

335

Thompson

Clarifies.

347

Paul Engelmeyer

National Audubon Society. Discusses Goal 19. Discusses protecting marine biodiversity.

377

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Mentions issue of duck habitat that was brought up in the video. Asks witness to make comment about bird species on the coast.

384

Engelmeyer

Explains.

400

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Asks Mr. Hixon how far apart marine reserves are spaced.

405

Hixon

Discusses location of marine reserves.

TAPE 39, B

009

Thompson

Discusses location of marine reserves.

020

Hixon

Refers to existing studies of marine reserves.

035

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Closes informational meeting and opens public hearing on SB 354.

SB 354 – PUBLIC HEARING

040

Sen. David Nelson

Represents Senate District 29. Introduces Ross Seyfried.

060

Ross Seyfried

Resident, Union County. Presents photographs from CD (EXHIBIT D).

078

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Asks if witness took the photographs presented.

080

Seyfried

Replies yes.

081

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Says that they are beautiful.

082

Seyfried

Testifies in support of SB 354. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT E).

135

Sen. Beyer

 Asks about specific details in Section 3 of SB 354. Asks about 5,000 acres.

145

Seyfried

Explains.

152

Sen. Beyer

Asks approximately how many ranches would be in 5,000 acres or larger in Union County.

155

Seyfried

States that he does not know that information. Gives additional details.

162

Sen. Beyer

Asks about Union County.

165

Sen. Nelson

States that it is La Grande.

167

Sen. Beyer

Asks question about Section 4 of SB 354.

170

Seyfried

Explains.

188

Sen. Beyer

Verifies that the number of antler and antler-less tags have to be equal.

190

Seyfried

Replies not necessarily. Explains.

200

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Asks witness to stay around in case there are more questions.

205

John Lamoreau

Union County Commissioner. Testifies in support of SB 354. Discusses similar program in Colorado.

245

Sen. Beyer

Asks how many parcels in Union County would be 5,000 acres or larger.

246

Lamoreau

Guesses about 20.

250

Sen. Shields

Asks if there could be more than 20 if the aggregation principle discussed earlier was applied.

251

Lamoreau

Replies yes. Explains.

260

Roy Elicker

Deputy Director, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife (ODFW). States that there are 16 parcels in Union County that are 5,000 acres or larger. Discusses SB 354.

320

Ron Anglin

Wildlife Division Administrator, ODFW. Submits and highlights written testimony (EXHIBIT F).

415

Sen. Shields

Asks what other states have done about animals wandering off to adjacent properties and creating damage.

420

Anglin

States that Colorado did not address this issue.

445

Anglin

Continues highlighting written testimony (EXHIBIT F).

TAPE 40, B

001

Anglin

Continues highlighting written testimony (EXHIBIT F).

033

Sen. Shields

Asks if Mr. Elicker has talked to Sen. Nelson about SB 354.

035

Elicker

Replies no, not directly.

036

Sen. Shields

Suggests that Mr. Elicker talk to Sen. Nelson about the ODFW’s concerns.

045

Elicker

States that the ODFW will work with Union County on a pilot program. Expresses uncertainty that this will be a good program for the state of Oregon.

048

Sen. Shields

Explains that this is the reason a pilot program is implemented.

050

Elicker

Agrees. Expresses willingness to return to the committee with recommendations.

055

Sen. Shields

States that he has a meeting and so he needs to excuse himself.

056

Sen. Beyer

Agrees with Sen. Shield’s comments. Discusses potential concerns with program. Wonders if there is still some money that has not been spent for access and habitat.

066

Elicker

Responds yes and explains.

071

Sen. Beyer

States that he was asking for an update on access and habitat. Wonders why the money isn’t being used to get more access.

074

Anglin

States that there is money available within the program. Describes efforts by the ODFW to expand access.

090

Sen. Beyer

Discusses potential issues with SB 354. States that he would like to see these issues worked out.

105

Al Elkins

Oregon Hunters Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 354. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G). States that he has talked with Sen. Nelson generally about opposition but not specifically.

135

Sen. Beyer

Sees SB 354 as an opportunity to open up lands to the public. Discusses Sherman County.

155

Vice-Chair Atkinson

Verifies that Sen. Nelson will help work out these issues. Closes public hearing on SB 354 and adjourns meeting at 4:42 p.m.

 

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A.     Oregon’s Ocean, informational packet, Carolyn Waldron, 61 pp

B.     Oregon’s Ocean, videotape, Carolyn Waldron, videotape

C.     Oregon’s Ocean, fact sheet, Mark Hixon, 4 pp

D.    SB 354, pictures, Ross Seyfried, CD

E.     SB 354, written testimony, Ross Seyfried, 2 pp

F.      SB 354, written testimony, Ron Anglin, 2 pp

G.    SB 354, written testimony, Al Elkins, 2 pp