SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE

 

 

March 21, 2005                                                                                                       Hearing Room B

3:00 P.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes  47 - 48

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair

Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Frank Shields

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Sen. Ginny Burdick

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Matt Shields, Committee Administrator

Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

SB 457 -  Public Hearing

SB 542 – Public Hearing

SB 82 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 47, A

005

Chair Ringo

Calls committee to order at 3:04 p.m. and opens public hearing on SB 457.

SB 457 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Matt Shields

Committee Administrator. Submits SB 457-1 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT A).

012

Sen. Monnes Anderson

Represents Senate District 25. Introduces Scott Forrester and states that Mr. Forrester is the reason that SB 457 has been introduced.

015

Scott Forrester

Resident, Gresham. Testifies in support of SB 457.

070

Chair Ringo

States that there are eight other people signed up to testify in opposition to SB 457. Asks if witness wants to anticipate the opposition or if he wants to comment after others have testified.

075

Forrester

Replies that he would like to comment after the other testimony.

080

Paul Reed

East Lane Soil and Water Conservation District (SWCD). Submits and reads written testimony of Ralph Perkins in opposition to SB 457 (EXHIBIT B). Submits brochure on Oregon Soil and Water Conservation Districts (EXHIBIT C).

140

Chair Ringo

Asks witnesses not to repeat the same arguments.

145

Clair Klock

Resident, Corbett. Testifies in opposition to SB 457. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

160

Eann Rains

District Administrator, East Multnomah SWCD. Submits and highlights informational packet in opposition to SB 457 (EXHIBIT E).

170

Chair Ringo

Asks about East Multnomah County.

175

Rains

Responds. Continues highlighting testimony from informational packet (EXHIBIT E).

205

Chair Ringo

States that the committee has her written testimony.

206

Klock

Comments about East Multnomah County.

212

Rains

Describes what is included in submitted informational packet (EXHIBIT E).

222

Reed

Discusses East Lane SWCD.

240

Tom Bedell

Director, Benton SWCD. Submits and reads written testimony in opposition to SB 457 (EXHIBIT F).

265

Chair Ringo

Asks witness to summarize because the committee has his written testimony.

266

Bedell

Summarizes opposition to SB 457.

287

Doug Kroemer

Chairman, Marion SWCD, member of the Soil and Water Conservation Commission, and farmer, St. Paul. Testifies in opposition to SB 457.

311

Chair Ringo

Asks witness if it makes sense to have a different rule for East Multnomah County.

313

Kroemer

Replies no and explains.

320

John McDonald

Resident of Hillsboro, hazelnut grower, Chairman of the Tualatin SWCD, and Executive Director of the Oregon Association of Conservation Districts. Testifies in opposition to SB 457. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G).

365

Katie Fast

Oregon Farm Bureau. Testifies in opposition to SB 457. Discusses East Multnomah County.

410

Rick Gruen

District Manager, Clackamas County SWCD. Expresses opposition to SB 457. Gives background information on Clackamas County and discusses assistance given by the board and staff of SWCDs.

TAPE 48, A

015

Scott Forrester

Responds to previous testimony. Discusses his campaign for Director of the Multnomah County Public Utility Board. Emphasizes that SB 457 is not an attack on SWCDs. Apologizes for not getting in contact with all of those in opposition to SB 457. Makes comment about constitutionality.

035

Chair Ringo

Appreciates witness’ testimony. States that witness does not need to apologize.

040

Sen. Beyer

Points out that witness just said he doesn’t have an opportunity to participate in democracy, but that he just ran for office and lost.

042

Forrester

Responds.

061

Chair Ringo

Invites Scott Forrester to prepare written testimony and give it to the committee.

062

Forrester

States that he thedoes not have a hard copy. Says that he will submit it tomorrow if the record can be kept open.

063

Chair Ringo

Says that if witness gives it to committee staff it will get distributed to the committee members.

064

Forrester

States that if committee staff has the contact information then he will distribute copies to those who testified today.

068

Chair Ringo

Suggests that Mr. Forrester consider amendments to SB 457 if it makes sense to draft the legislation to only address East Multnomah County.

070

Forrester

Discusses reason for addressing East Multnomah County.

075

Chair Ringo

Responds.

076

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing on SB 457 and opens public hearing on SB 542.

SB 542 – PUBLIC HEARING

085

Sen. Avel Gordley

Represents Senate District 23. Submits and reads written testimony in support of SB 542 (EXHIBIT H).

185

Sen. Gordley

Continues reading testimony (EXHIBIT H).

315

Sen. Gordley

Concludes testimony (EXHIBIT H).

325

Chair Ringo

Asks about fiscal impact.

330

Sen. Gordley

Acknowledges budget situation. Asks that this policy be put into statute if nothing else can be done.

345

Sen. Shields

Asks how that can be done.

355

Sen. Gordley

Responds.

360

Robin Morris Collin

Law Professor, Willamette University. Co-principal of grant that financed 1999 effort. Responds to Sen. Shield’s question. Discusses grant received.

390

Sen. Shields

Asks why the emergency board declined to accept a grant in the area of environmental justice.

395

Morris Collin

Responds. States that her response is speculation.

410

Morris Collin

Introduces Robert Collin and Jeri Sundvall.

430

Robert Collin

Senior Scholar, Willamette University Center for Public Policy and Adjunct Law Professor, Willamette University. Discusses his background in environmental justice. Testifies in support of SB 542. Submits report titled “Implementation of Environmental Justice in Oregon Natural Resource and Environmental Agencies (EXHIBIT I).

TAPE 47, B

005

Robert Collin

Continues testimony in support of SB 542.

040

Jeri Sundvall

Director, Environmental Action Group, Resident, Northeast Portland and member of the Klamath Tribe. Testifies in support of SB 542.

105

Chair Ringo

Thanks witnesses for their testimony. Believes SB 542 is very important.

108

Sen. Shields

Thanks witnesses for their testimony.

115

Gail Shibley

Administrator, Office of Public Health Systems, State of Oregon. Testifies on SB 542. States that they must be officially neutral because SB 542 is not in the Governor’s recommended budget.

172

Matt Blevins

Legislative Affairs Director, Oregon Environmental Council. Submits and highlights written testimony in support of SB 542 (EXHIBIT J).

190

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing on SB 542 and recesses committee at 4:11 p.m.

194

Chair Ringo

Calls meeting back to order at 4:21 p.m. Announces that SB 542 will be heard at the meeting on March 22, 2005 at 7:00 a.m. Opens public hearing on SB 82.

SB 82 – PUBLIC HEARING

205

Lane Shetterly

Director, Department of Land Conservation and Development (DLCD). Testifies in support of SB 82. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K).

275

Shetterly

States that SB 82 is incorporated in the Governor’s recommended budget.

295

Shetterly

Submits and explains -1 amendments (EXHIBIT L).

315

Rick Gustafson

Oregon State Board of Agriculture. Testifies in support of SB 82. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT M).

348

Ken Bailey

Oregon State Board of Agriculture. Testifies in support of SB 82.

375

Tom Bedell

Oregon State Board of Agriculture. Testifies in support of SB 82.

395

Bernie Faber

Chair, Oregon State Board of Agriculture. Testifies in support of SB 82.

412

Sen. Beyer

Asks if the witness is asking for an amendment to be drafted.

420

Gustafson

Responds.

TAPE 48, B

014

Sen. Beyer

Verifies that as long as it is made clear that the Board of Agriculture is asked to be included then an amendment is not necessary.

018

Gustafson

Confirms this.

020

Elon Hasson

Legislative Director, 1000 Friends of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 82.

025

Art Schlack

Association of Oregon Counties. Testifies in support of SB 82. Notes that some counties have voiced some concerns. Details concerns.

055

Dr. Noah Toulan

Oregon Chapter, American Planning Association (OAPA). Testifies in support of SB 82.

107

Reeve Hennion

Chairman, Jackson County Planning Commission and member of the Executive Board of the OAPA. Submits written testimony in support of SB 82 (EXHIBIT N). Submits written testimony on behalf of the OAPA in support of SB 82 (EXHIBIT O). Submits brochure from the OAPA titled “Summary of Legislative and Policy Positions” (EXHIBIT P). Testifies in support of SB 82. States that he is here from Jackson County to let the committee know that this is not only a Willamette Valley issue.

135

Chair Ringo

Asks Stephen Kafoury if the -1 amendments were offered by him.

140

Stephen Kafoury

Replies that the -1 amendments were offered by the DLCD.

145

Kafoury

Makes comment regarding the -1 amendments.

155

Liz Frenkel

League of Women Voters of Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 82. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Q).

187

Peggy Lynch

Resident, Benton County. Testifies in support of SB 82.

217

Pat Zimmerman

Resident, Scappoose and Chair, Citizens Involvement Advisory Committee. Testifies in support of SB 82. Asks committee to make sure that the citizens of the state are represented on the Oregon Task Force on Land Use Planning. Gives illustration.

250

Randy Tucker

Legislative Affairs Manager, Metro. Testifies in support of SB 82.

300

John Chandler

Oregon Home Builder’s Association. States that the task force needs to be made up of people who are not invested in land use. States that if he was asked to serve on this committee, he would decline.

340

Shetterly

Agrees with Mr. Chandler.

341

Chair Ringo

Asks if Shetterly wants the committee to adopt the -1 amendments.

342

Shetterly

Replies yes. Explains the -1 amendments.

370

Chair Ringo

Asks about the fiscal impact.

371

Shetterly

Explains the fiscal impact.

385

Chair Ringo

States that SB 82 will be moved out of committee at the meeting on March 22, 2005 at 7:00 a.m.

The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony:

 

Michael Carrier

Natural Resources Policy Director, Governor’s Office. Submits written testimony in support of SB 82 (EXHIBIT R).

395

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing on SB 82 and adjourns meeting at 5:02 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A.     SB 457, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p

B.     SB 457, written testimony of Ralph Perkins, Paul Reed, 2 pp

C.     SB 457, brochure, Paul Reed, 2 pp

D.    SB 457, written testimony, Clair Klock, 1 p

E.     SB 457, informational packet, Eann Rains, 4 pp

F.      SB 457, written testimony, Tom Bedell, 2 pp

G.    SB 457, written testimony, John McDonald, 2 pp

H.    SB 542, written testimony, Sen. Avel Gordley, 6 pp

I.       SB 542, report, Robert Collin, 91 pp

J.      SB 542, written testimony, Matt Blevins, 2 pp

K.    SB 82, written testimony, Lane Shetterly, 2 pp

L.     SB 82, -1 amendments, Lane Shetterly, 1 p

M.  SB 82, written testimony, Rick Gustafson, 2 pp

N.    SB 82, written testimony, Reeve Henion, 2 pp

O.    SB 82, written testimony of the OAPA, Reeve Henion, 2 pp

P.      SB 82, brochure, Reeve Henion, 2 pp

Q.    SB 82, written testimony, Liz Frenkel, 1 p

R.    SB 82, written testimony, Michael Carrier, 1 p