SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE
March 29, 2005 Hearing Room 343
7:00 A.M. Tapes 61 - 62
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Frank Shields
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair
Sen. Ginny Burdick
STAFF PRESENT: Matt Shields, Committee Administrator
Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 91 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 92 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 346 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 740 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
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TAPE 61, A |
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005 |
Chair Ringo |
Calls meeting to order at 7:05 a.m. Makes opening comments. Opens public hearing on SB 91. |
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SB 91 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Matt Shields |
Committee Administrator. Submits SB 91-1 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT A). |
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018 |
Jeannette Holman |
Assistant Director, Department of State Lands. Submits and reads written testimony in support of SB 91 (EXHIBIT B). |
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046 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks about kinds of activities. |
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047 |
Holman |
Gives details. |
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059 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if weddings are the main activity that witness needs to charge for. |
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060 |
Holman |
Replies no and lists activities. |
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063 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks about possibility of day retreats. |
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065 |
Holman |
States that is a possibility that has been discussed. |
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066 |
Sen. Shields |
Makes comment. |
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068 |
Holman |
Explains that there is not currently a fee schedule. Mentions SB 91-1 amendments and explains. |
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078 |
Sen. Shields |
Makes comment. |
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082 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks about change in section 2 of SB 91. |
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083 |
Holman |
Explains change that occurred in 1997. |
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090 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that SB 91 changes that. |
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091 |
Holman |
Explains that SB 91 does not change the funding source. |
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093 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that SB 91 puts the funds in the Common School Fund (CSF) instead of the General Fund. |
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096 |
Holman |
Discusses clarification of statutes. |
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103 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if Sen. Beyer is satisfied with that. |
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104 |
Sen. Beyer |
Replies no. Asks witness for statutory references. |
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110 |
Holman |
Gives explanation of funds and states that it was never changed in the statutes. |
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115 |
Sen. Beyer |
Understands. Verifies that the money comes from the CSF and goes into an account in the General Fund. |
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116 |
Holman |
Replies that it may. |
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118 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks where the interest on that account is credited. |
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119 |
Holman |
Replies the CSF account. |
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120 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that he knows where the CSF money goes. Asks where the interest currently goes. |
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122 |
Holman |
Replies that currently it is an expenditure limitation out of the CSF. States that it never gets switched over to the General Fund account. |
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126 |
Sen. Beyer |
Verifies that it does not currently generate interest. |
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127 |
Holman |
Replies that it does not and explains. |
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129 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that there is no interest changing accounts. |
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131 |
Holman |
Responds. |
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133 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that he understands now. |
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138 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if there are any other witnesses on SB 91. Closes public hearing on SB 91 and opens work session on SB 91. |
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SB 91 – WORK SESSION |
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139 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 91-1 amendments dated 03/21/05. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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142 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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145 |
Chair Ringo |
States that SB 91 has a referral to Ways and Means. |
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146 |
Sen. Beyer |
States that there is no fiscal impact. |
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147 |
Matt Shields |
Committee Administrator. Comments on fiscal impact. |
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154 |
Chair Ringo |
Wants to send SB 91 to the floor. |
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155 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves SB 91 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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158 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor. |
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160 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 91 and opens public hearing on SB 92. |
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SB 92 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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163 |
Jeannette Holman |
Assistant Director, Department of State Lands. Testifies in support of SB 92. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C). |
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187 |
Danny Krossman |
Confederated Tribes of Coos, Siuslaw and Lower Umpqua. Testifies in support of SB 92. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D) and maps of the South Slough territory (EXHIBIT E). |
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200 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes public hearing on SB 92 and opens work session on SB 92. |
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SB 92 – WORK SESSION |
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202 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves SB 92 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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205 |
Sen. Beyer |
Makes comment. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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210 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor. |
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216 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 92 and opens public hearing on SB 346. |
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SB 346 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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218 |
Chair Ringo |
States that the -1 amendments need to be adopted. Closes public hearing on SB 346 and opens work session on SB 346. |
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SB 346 – WORK SESSION |
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Matt Shields |
Committee Administrator. Submits SB 346-1 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT F). |
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220 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 346-1 amendments dated 02/03/05. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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223 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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225 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves SB 346 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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228 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BEYER will lead discussion on the floor. |
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230 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 346 and opens public hearing on SB 740. |
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SB 740 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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235 |
Rep. Jackie Dingfelder |
Represents House District 45. Mentions visual aid which is an old TV that no longer works. Explains and gives background information on SB 740. Submits fact sheet on SB 740 (EXHIBIT G) and a report from the Oregon Advisory Committee on Electronic Product Stewardship (EXHIBIT H). States that SB 740 needs some amendments and they are being worked on. |
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353 |
Rep. Peter Buckley |
Represents House District 5. Testifies in support of SB 740. |
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385 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Submits written testimony on behalf of Greg Sampson, Vice President of Electronics Recovery for Earth Protection Services Inc. in support of SB 740 (EXHIBIT I). |
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390 |
Sen. Beyer |
Verifies that Rep. Dingfelder said that if a federal program goes into effect then SB 740 will be repealed. Says that he is trying to find where that language is in SB 740. |
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395 |
Rep. Dingfelder |
Responds. |
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TAPE 62, A |
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015 |
Craig Lorch |
Total Reclaim. Testifies in support of SB 740. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J). |
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042 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if witness has a percentage of either volume or weight. |
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044 |
Lorch |
Says that he does not know how much is sold. |
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045 |
Chair Ringo |
Clarifies that he is asking how much of the total waste is e-waste. |
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046 |
Lorch |
Replies that it is one to two percent of the waste stream in Washington. Gives example. Discusses SB 740. |
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069 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks if witness is saying that a program could save Oregon money. |
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071 |
Lorch |
Responds. |
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076 |
Sen. Shields |
States that it still comes out of everyone’s pockets if the landfills are being filled more quickly. Suggests that it would save money not to fill the landfills up so quickly. Asks question about business opportunities to help poor people have more access to computers. |
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098 |
Lorch |
Responds. |
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110 |
Wayne Rifer |
Rifer Environmental. Testifies in support of SB 740. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K). |
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192 |
Sen. Shields |
Asks about the idea of a deposit. |
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199 |
Rifer |
Confirms that the deposit concept has been discussed. |
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212 |
Dennis Brown |
Vice President, State Government Relations, Equipment Leasing Association. Testifies on SB 740. |
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219 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks where witness is from. |
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220 |
Brown |
Replies Washington D.C. |
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221 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if witness flew to Oregon from Washington D.C. to testify. |
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222 |
Brown |
Replies yes. Continues testifying on SB 740. Submits written testimony (EXHIIBT L). |
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300 |
Chair Ringo |
Acknowledges witness’ concern with SB 740. Asks if all of witness’ objections can be addressed. |
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304 |
Brown |
Replies no and discusses uniformity and consistency among multiple states. Says this already being done in other regions. |
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307 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that this is being done in the northeast. |
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308 |
Brown |
Confirms this. |
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310 |
Chair Ringo |
Discusses distance between states. Asks if witness wants to see Oregon collaborate with Washington. |
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316 |
Brown |
States that California should be involved also. |
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321 |
Jerry Jordan |
Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, US Bancorp Equipment Finance. Gives background information on company and how SB 740 would affect them. States that a program on a national level would make more sense. |
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363 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if both witnesses understand that the program has to be administered carefully. |
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364 |
Jordan |
Replies yes. |
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365 |
Brown |
Replies yes. |
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366 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if witnesses agree that e-waste is a significant problem that needs to be addressed. |
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369 |
Brown |
States that is why they do not voice outright opposition to SB 740. |
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373 |
Jordan |
Replies yes and explains. |
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378 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if the problem is the volume of the waste or the toxic chemicals. |
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383 |
Brown |
Replies neither and explains. |
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389 |
Chair Ringo |
Clarifies that he didn’t mean the problem with the California program. |
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390 |
Brown |
States that SB 740 is based on the California program. |
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391 |
Chair Ringo |
Understands, but asks what is witness’ specific problem with e-waste. Asks if it is the volume of the waste or the toxic chemicals. |
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392 |
Jordan |
Replies all of the above. |
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408 |
Jim Craven |
Government Affairs Manager, American Electronics Association. Submits and highlights written testimony in opposition to SB 740 (EXHIBIT M). Discusses task force. |
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TAPE 61, B |
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001 |
Craven |
Continues highlighting testimony (EXHIBIT M). |
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045 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if witness supports these concepts on a national scale. |
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046 |
Craven |
Supports the continuation of people trying to structure a national framework. |
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047 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that might include a recycling program which would involve some fees. |
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048 |
Craven |
Replies yes. |
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049 |
Chair Ringo |
Says that the idea that e-waste is such a small component of solid waste is not consistent with constructing a national solution. |
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051 |
Craven |
Clarifies that he did not say it wasn’t a problem. States that resource conservation is always preferable to throwing something away. |
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065 |
Craven |
Continues highlighting testimony (EXHIBIT M). |
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120 |
Julie Brandis |
Associated Oregon Industries. Testifies in opposition to SB 740. |
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180 |
Doug Smith |
Sony Electronics. Testifies in support of SB 740. |
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202 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks what raw materials can be taken out of an old television. |
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203 |
Smith |
Gives details. Continues testimony in support of SB 740. |
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273 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks where three million pounds of e-waste is being collected. |
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274 |
Smith |
Replies in California. |
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275 |
Chair Ringo |
Thanks witness for his testimony and states that he found it very persuasive. |
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276 |
Lorraine Kerwood |
Executive Director, Computer Reuse and Recycling Center. Testifies in support of SB 740. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT N). |
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353 |
Matt Blevins |
Legislative Affairs Director, Oregon Environmental Council (OEC). States that the OEC supports SB 740 and introduces Heidi Sickert. |
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356 |
Heidi Sickert |
OEC. Testifies in support of SB 740. |
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TAPE 62, B |
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005 |
Paul Cosgrove |
Hewlett Packard (HP). Gives background information on HP recycling. |
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010 |
Marcy Eastham |
Northwest Government Affairs Manager, HP. Submits and reads written testimony in opposition to SB 740 (EXHIBIT O). |
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025 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if the California program is popular among consumers. |
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028 |
Larry King |
HP, Roseville, California. States that the consumers don’t know about the program. States that participation rate with retailers is very low. |
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031 |
Eastham |
Continues highlighting testimony (EXHIBIT O). |
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046 |
King |
Testifies in opposition to SB 740. |
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065 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks question about incentive. |
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070 |
King |
Responds. Continues testimony. |
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090 |
Chair Ringo |
Makes comment. |
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091 |
Cosgrove |
Responds. |
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100 |
Sen. Beyer |
Mentions previous witness who testified that the California program was collecting three million pounds per month. Asks if that is correct. |
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105 |
King |
Replies that no reporting has been done yet. |
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109 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if witnesses accept that e-waste is an important public policy issue that needs to be addressed. |
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110 |
King |
Replies yes. |
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111 |
Eastham |
Replies yes and believes that manufacturers have a solution. |
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115 |
Chair Ringo |
Makes comment regarding bottle bill. |
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116 |
Eastham |
Responds that, with the bottle bill, people get their deposit back. |
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118 |
Chair Ringo |
Replies that is true. |
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120 |
Rick Winterhalter |
Association of Oregon Recyclers. Testifies in support of SB 740. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT P). |
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150 |
Oso Martin |
Founder and Outreach Coordinator, Free Geek. Gives background information on Free Geek. |
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153 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that Martin recovered 50 percent of the material. |
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154 |
Martin |
Explains. |
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157 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks Martin how many employees work for him. |
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158 |
Martin |
Responds. Continues giving background information on Free Geek and recycling. Expresses support for SB 740 and states that he is confident that the concerns will be worked out. |
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190 |
Dale Swanson |
Panasonic Matsushita Electric. Testifies in support of SB 740. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Q) |
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213 |
Randy Tucker |
Metro. Testifies in support of SB 740. |
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230 |
Bob Danko |
Department of Environmental Quality. Testifies on SB 740 and explains neutral position. |
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235 |
Tucker |
Offers to provide written testimony. |
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237 |
Bailey Paine |
Recycling Coordinator, Marion County Public Works. Testifies on costs for Marion County and submits written testimony that shows costs for the 2005 fiscal year (EXHIBIT R). |
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277 |
Pete Ray Chism |
Citizen. Testifies in support of SB 740. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT S). |
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312 |
Mike Dewey |
Waste Management, Inc. Testifies in support of SB 740. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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Frank Dick |
Environmental Manager, Sharp Microelectronics of the Americas. Submits written testimony in support of SB 740 (EXHIBIT T). |
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Bruce Walker |
Solid Waste and Recycling Program Manager, City of Portland. Submits written testimony in support of SB 740 (EXHIBIT U). |
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Marc A. Pearl |
Executive Director, Consumer Electronics Retailers Coalition. Submits written testimony in opposition to SB 740 (EXHIBIT V). |
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320 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes public hearing on SB 740 and adjourns meeting at 8:50 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 91, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p
B. SB 91, written testimony, Jeannette Holman, 2 pp
C. SB 92, written testimony, Jeannette Holman, 2 pp
D. SB 92, written testimony, Danny Krossman, 1 p
E. SB 92, maps, Danny Krossman, 2 pp
F. SB 346, -1 amendments, Staff, 37 pp
G. SB 740, fact sheet, Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, 2 pp
H. SB 740, report, Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, 101 pp
I. SB 740, written testimony of Greg Sampson, Rep. Jackie Dingfelder, 1 p
J. SB 740, written testimony, Craig Lorch, 2 pp
K. SB 740, written testimony, Wayne Rifer, 2 pp
L. SB 740, written testimony, Dennis Brown, 9 pp
M. SB 740, written testimony, Jim Craven, 4 pp
N. SB 740, written testimony, Lorraine Kerwood, 1 p
O. SB 740, written testimony, Marcy Eastham, 6 pp
P. SB 740, written testimony, Rick Winterhalter, 1 p
Q. SB 740, written testimony, Dale Swanson, 2 pp
R. SB 740, written testimony, Bailey Paine, 1 p
S. SB 740, written testimony, Pete Ray Chism, 2 pp
T. SB 740, written testimony, Frank Dick, 1 p
U. SB 740, written testimony, Bruce Walker, 2 pp
V. SB 740, written testimony, Marc A. Pearl, 2 pp