SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE

 

 

March 31, 2005                                                                                                   Hearing Room 343

7:00 A.M.                                                                                                                     Tapes 66 - 67

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair

Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair

Sen. Roger Beyer

Sen. Ginny Burdick

Sen. Frank Shields

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Matt Shields, Committee Administrator

Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

SB 890 – Public Hearing

SB 125 – Work Session

SB 737 – Work Session

SB 861 – Public Hearing

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 66, A

005

Chair Ringo

Calls meeting to order at 7:11 a.m. and opens public hearing on SB 890.

SB 890 – PUBLIC HEARING

008

Sen. Bruce Starr

Represents Senate District 15. Testifies in support of SB 890.

095

Sen. Shields

Discusses tax credits for purchases. Observes that SB 890 would provide a tax credit for the research and development phase. Wonders at what point in the process of research and development the tax credit would be applied.

108

Sen. B. Starr

Responds.

115

Sen. Beyer

Asks about alternate fuels.

121

Sen. B. Starr

Responds.

122

Sen. Beyer

Makes comment about language “for costs incurred” in SB 890.

127

Chair Ringo

Mentions hearing on Friday, March 25, 2005. Discusses use of fuels. Believes SB 890 is a move in the right direction.

136

Mike Grainey

Oregon Department of Energy. Testifies in support of SB 890. States that the governor’s office wants to see SB 890 moved to the Revenue committee.

155

Sen. Shields

Remarks on witness’ testimony.

169

Chair Ringo

Makes comments.

171

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing on SB 890 and opens work session on SB 125.

SB 125 – WORK SESSION

 

Matt Shields

Committee Administrator. Submits SB 125-2 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT A).

183

Chair Ringo

Discusses SB 125.

187

Bill Fisher

Former Senator, and resident, Roseburg. Discusses the -2 amendments. Discusses specific language of the -2 amendments.

212

Roy Elicker

Deputy Director, Fish and Wildlife Programs, Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. Testifies in support of SB 125 with the -2 amendments.

216

Chair Ringo

Verifies that witness wants the -2 amendments moved.

217

Elicker

Replies yes.

220

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 125-2 amendments dated 03/16/05.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

221

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

222

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves SB 125 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

224

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor.

225

Chair Ringo

Closes work session on SB 125 and opens work session on SB 737.

SB 737 – WORK SESSION

 

Matt Shields

Committee Administrator. Submits SB 737-1 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT B).

228

Chair Ringo

Explains that SB 737 was re-referred to the committee.

230

Mike Grainey

Oregon Department of Energy. Explains SB 737. Details concerns of language in SB 737. Explains the -1 amendments.

250

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 737-1 amendments dated 03/28/05.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

254

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

255

Sen. Atkinson

MOTION:  Moves SB 737 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Burdick

259

Chair Ringo

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor.

260

Chair Ringo

Makes comments. Closes work session on SB 737 and opens public hearing on SB 861.

SB 861 – PUBLIC HEARING

 

Matt Shields

Committee Administrator. Submits SB 861-1 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT C).

270

Sen. Doug Whitsett

Represents Senate District 28. Testifies in support of SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D).

288

Chair Ringo

Asks if Sen. Whitsett is familiar with mentioned practice of force feeding of geese.

290

Sen. Whitsett

Replies.

293

Ted E. Keizer

Legislative Assistant, Sen. Joanne Verger’s office. Introduces himself. Submits written testimony on behalf of Sen. Joanne Verger (EXHIBIT E). Asks permission to show a six minute video.

304

Chair Ringo

Gives permission.

305

Keizer

Starts six minute video showing the force feeding of birds.

325

Chair Ringo

Asks where this video was taken.

326

Keizer

Explains.

330

Chair Ringo

Verifies location.

331

Keizer

Explains.

335

Keizer

Continues video on force feeding of birds.

TAPE 67, A

011

Chair Ringo

Asks if witness has talked to the Oregon Restaurant Association regarding SB 861.

012

Keizer

Responds. States that the Oregon Grocer’s Association is not opposed to SB 861.

030

Craig Sparks

North American Wildlife Alliance. Testifies in support of SB 861. Comments on video. Submits informational packet (EXHIBIT F).

060

Chair Ringo

Discusses foie gras. Verifies that the practice of force feeding is in order to make the livers of geese larger.

063

Sparks

Replies yes.

064

Chair Ringo

States that foie gras could still be served in restaurants, but it would have to be made out of normal sized livers.

065

Sparks

Replies yes and discusses the market for foie gras.

070

Connie Theil

Citizen. Testifies in support of SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G).

078

Sparks

Mentions that California recently banned the process of force feeding. States that there is pending legislation in New York as well.

081

Chair Ringo

Asks if the ban relates to the sale or production of foie gras.

083

Sparks

Believes both. States that the ban does not take effect until 2012 and explains.

084

Chair Ringo

Thanks witnesses for testimony.

087

Guillermo Gonzalez

Resident, Sonoma, California and foie gras producer. Testifies in opposition to SB 861. States that the video shown does not represent his farm or foie gras production as a whole.

150

Gonzalez

Continues testimony in opposition to SB 861.

192

Chair Ringo

Asks if witness has a video of his operation.

195

Gonzalez

Replies yes and states that it is a non-professional video.

196

Chair Ringo

Asks if witness has the video with him.

197

Gonzalez

Replies no, but offers to provide it to the committee.

200

Chair Ringo

Agrees that decisions need to be made on facts and not misinformation. States that he found the video disturbing.

202

Gonzalez

States that it is.

203

Chair Ringo

Says that it is important to be humane to animals. Asks witness if he force feeds the geese in the way depicted in the video.

206

Gonzalez

States that he was not able to observe the video. States that intubation is used to feed the birds.

207

Chair Ringo

Asks if intubation means to put a tube down the bird’s throat.

208

Gonzalez

Replies yes. Continues explanation of the process of feeding.

221

Gonzalez

States that they do not use individual cages. Discusses foie gras operation.

242

Sen. Shields

Discusses inaccuracies in videos. Discusses tours. Asks how the accuracy of either video could be verified.

254

Gonzalez

Responds.

275

Sara Eickhoff

Resident, Multnomah County. Submits and reads written testimony in support of SB 861 (EXHIBIT H).

309

Diane Luck

Resident, Multnomah County. Comments on Mr. Gonzalez’ testimony. Testifies in support of SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I).

338

Matt Rossell

Northwest Outreach Coordinator, In Defense of Animals. States that In Defense of Animas did not initiate SB 861. Makes comments on Mr. Gonzalez’ testimony. Testifies in support of SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J).

TAPE 66, B

022

Geoff Latham

President, Nicky USA Inc. Testifies in opposition to SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K).

056

Chair Ringo

Asks about witness’ business.

057

Latham

Explains.

062

Chair Ringo

Asks for clarification of business.

063

Latham

Explains.

066

Latham

Continues testimony in opposition to SB 861.

080

Thomas Hurley

Chef owner, Portland. States that his restaurant has been targeted.

087

Chair Ringo

Asks what the name of the restaurant is.

088

Hurley

Replies Hurley’s.

089

Hurley

Testifies in opposition to SB 861.

116

Chair Ringo

Makes comments on witness’ testimony.

120

Hurley

Makes comments.

137

Pascal Sauton

Restaurant owner and chef, Portland. Testifies in opposition to SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L).

195

Chair Ringo

Asks if witness thinks that people would still come to his restaurant if he no longer served foie gras.

201

Sauton

Replies.

205

Chair Ringo

Verifies that witness said he sold 200 orders of foie gras in the month of December.

206

Sauton

Confirms this.

207

Chair Ringo

Asks what the name of the restaurant is.

208

Sauton

Replies.

209

Hurley

States that there are other dishes, but there are people who come to the restaurant just for foie gras.

217

Sauton

Concludes testimony in opposition to SB 861.

236

Connie Durkee

Lighthouse Farm Sanctuary. Submits and reads written testimony on behalf of Wayne Geiger in support of SB 861 (EXHIBIT M).

266

Piper Dixon

Resident, Multnomah County. Testifies in support of SB 861.

290

Sydney Most

Citizen. Testifies in support of SB 861.

325

Ellie McKay

Resident, Multnomah County. Testifies in support of SB 861.

336

Nancy McKay

Resident, Multnomah County. Testifies in support of SB 861.

340

Kelly Peterson

Humane Society of the United States. Testifies in support of SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT N).

348

Marcia Keith

Oregon Veterinary Medical Association. Testifies in support of SB 861. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT O).

The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony:

 

Katie Fast

Oregon Farm Bureau. Submits written testimony in opposition to SB 861 (EXHIBIT P).

353

Chair Ringo

Closes public hearing on SB 861 and adjourns meeting at 8:31 a.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A.     SB 125, -2 amendments, Staff, 1 p

B.     SB 737, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p

C.     SB 861, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p

D.    SB 861, written testimony, Sen. Doug Whitsett, 1 p

E.     SB 861, written testimony of Joanne Verger, Ted Keizer, 1 p

F.      SB 861, informational packet, Craig Sparks, 5 pp

G.    SB 861, written testimony, Connie Theil, 1 p

H.    SB 861, written testimony, Sara Eickhoff, 1 p

I.       SB 861, written testimony, Diane Luck, 1 p

J.      SB 861, written testimony, Matt Rossell, 1 p

K.    SB 861, written testimony, Geoff Latham, 1 p

L.     SB 861, written testimony, Pascal Sauton, 2 pp

M.  SB 861, written testimony of Wayne Geiger, Connie Durkee, 1 p

N.    SB 861, written testimony, Kelly Peterson, 3 pp

O.    SB 861, written testimony, Marcia Keith, 2 pp

P.      SB 861, written testimony, Katie Fast, 1 p