SENATE COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT & LAND USE
April 05, 2005 Hearing Room 343
7:00 A.M. Tapes 71 - 72
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Charlie Ringo, Chair
Sen. Jason Atkinson, Vice-Chair
Sen. Roger Beyer
Sen. Frank Shields
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Ginny Burdick
STAFF PRESENT: Matt Shields, Committee Administrator
Katie Lowry, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 569 – Public Hearing
SB 353 – Work Session
HB 2438 – Public Hearing
SB 96 – Work Session
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 71, A |
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005 |
Chair Ringo |
Calls meeting to order at 7:07 a.m. and opens public hearing on SB 569. |
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SB 569 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Matt Shields |
Committee Administrator. Submits SB 569-1 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT A). |
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013 |
Sen. Floyd Prozanski |
Represents Senate District 4. Introduces Bob Horning. Testifies in support of SB 569. Discusses potential opposition to SB 569 and says that he wants to try and reach a solution. |
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042 |
Sen. Bruce Starr |
Represents Senate District 15. Testifies in support of SB 569. |
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050 |
Bob Horning |
Horning’s Fishing and Picnic Hideout. Submits written testimony in support of SB 569 (EXHIBIT B). Asks permission to read his written testimony. |
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052 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks witness to summarize the problem. |
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055 |
Horning |
Summarizes problem and gives background information on SB 569. |
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095 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Discusses health codes and frequency of events. |
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112 |
Horning |
Discusses his facility. |
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125 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Makes comments. Asks Sen. Prozanski if witness would potentially be violating this law if he were to have a church youth group on his site on Sunday afternoons. Asks if there is a protection because it is a church youth group. |
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134 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Responds. |
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140 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Responds. |
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168 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks about -1 amendments. Asks if other amendments are being worked on. |
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172 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Responds. |
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185 |
Sen. Beyer |
Makes suggestions for an amendment. |
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188 |
Sen. Atkinson |
Makes comment. |
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193 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Responds. |
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200 |
Horning |
States that the limitation on the frequency of the events is the main issue. |
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208 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that removal of the three month limitation would be helpful. |
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209 |
Horning |
Replies yes. |
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214 |
Laurel Cookman |
Willamette Gables Riverside Estate. Accompanied by husband Scott Cookman. Testifies in support of SB 569. |
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275 |
Cookman |
Gives economic analysis of events. |
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297 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks how many weddings are held at witness’ facility. |
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298 |
Cookman |
Replies one a quarter and explains in detail. |
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308 |
Chair Ringo |
Appreciates witness’ testimony. |
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310 |
Cookman |
States that they have not had any problems with law enforcement. |
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325 |
John Powell |
Oregon State Sheriff’s Association. Discusses potential problems with SB 569. |
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373 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that SB 569 would change the number specified for a mass gathering from 3,000 to 4,500. |
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382 |
Powell |
Clarifies definition of mass gathering and the effect of SB 569. Gives example. |
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397 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks about frequency of events. |
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400 |
Powell |
Responds. |
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TAPE 72, A |
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002 |
Sen. Beyer |
Makes comments. Asks how the law for mass gatherings is being interpreted to regulate a wedding of 200 people on a Saturday afternoon. |
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008 |
Powell |
Responds. |
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012 |
Gail Shibley |
Administrator, Public Health Systems, Department of Human Services (DHS). Discusses problem. Gives background information on mass gatherings. States that the DHS cannot support SB 569 and gives specific reasons why. |
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069 |
Chair Ringo |
Asks if the DHS has a problem with removing the limitation on the frequency of events. |
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070 |
Shibley |
Responds. |
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074 |
Art Schlack |
Association of Oregon Counties. Expresses concerns about SB 569. Refers to specific language of SB 569. |
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112 |
Sen. Beyer |
Ask question about language. |
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114 |
Schlack |
Responds. |
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119 |
Schlack |
Continues testimony on SB 569. Expresses concerns about loss of local control. Provides an illustration. |
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150 |
Chair Ringo |
Makes comments. |
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155 |
Sen. Beyer |
Asks question about holding a political rally more often than once every three months. |
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158 |
Chair Ringo |
Responds. |
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160 |
Sen. Prozanski |
Responds. |
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170 |
Sen. Shields |
Makes comments. |
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180 |
Chair Ringo |
Recesses public hearing on SB 569 and opens work session on SB 353. |
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SB 353 – WORK SESSION |
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Matt Shields |
Committee Administrator. Submits SB 353-1 amendments (EXHIBIT C) and SB 353-2 amendments for the record (EXHIBIT D). |
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195 |
Harlan Levy |
Senior Staff Attorney, Oregon Association of Realtors. Testifies in support of SB 353 with the -2 amendments. |
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200 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 353-2 amendments dated 04/04/05. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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205 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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210 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves SB 353 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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215 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor. |
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The following prepared testimony is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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Marge Kafoury |
Director, Office of Government Affairs, City of Portland. Submits written testimony on SB 353 (EXHIBIT E). |
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218 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 353 and opens public hearing on HB 2438. |
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HB 2438 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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220 |
Harlan Levy |
Senior Staff Attorney, Oregon Association of Realtors. Submits and highlights written testimony in support of HB 2438 (EXHIBIT F). |
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The following is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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Bob Rindy |
Department of Land Conservation and Development. Submits written testimony in support of HB 2438 (EXHIBIT G). |
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250 |
Chair Ringo |
Says he will hold HB 2438. Closes public hearing on HB 2438 and opens work session on SB 96. |
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SB 96 – WORK SESSION |
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255 |
Bob Rindy |
Department of Land Conservation and Development. Testifies in support of SB 96. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT H). |
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268 |
Chair Ringo |
Says that Sen. Burdick expressed some concerns at an earlier hearing on SB 96. Asks if Mr. Rindy has talked with Sen. Burdick regarding these concerns. |
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270 |
Rindy |
Says that he has submitted some testimony which addresses the questions raised. |
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271 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that witness does not have any amendments to offer to the committee. |
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272 |
Rindy |
Confirms this. |
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273 |
Chair Ringo |
Verifies that the original bill should be passed. |
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274 |
Rindy |
Explains. |
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275 |
Harlan Levy |
Senior Staff Attorney, Oregon Association of Realtors. Testifies in support of SB 96. |
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280 |
Sen. Beyer |
MOTION: Moves SB 96 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Atkinson, Burdick |
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283 |
Chair Ringo |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. RINGO will lead discussion on the floor. |
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285 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes work session on SB 96 and re-opens public hearing on SB 569. |
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SB 569 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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290 |
Matt Jaqua |
Conference of Local Environmental Health Supervisors. Discusses concerns and testifies on SB 569. |
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327 |
Chair Ringo |
Closes public hearing on SB 569 and adjourns meeting at 7:57 a.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 569, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p
B. SB 569, written testimony, Bob Horning, 5 pp
C. SB 353, -1 amendments, Staff, 1 p
D. SB 353, -2 amendments, Staff, 1 p
E. SB 353, written testimony, Marge Kafoury, 1 p
F. HB 2438, written testimony, Harlan Levy, 2 pp
G. HB 2438, written testimony, Bob Rindy, 1 p
H. SB 96, written testimony, Bob Rindy, 1 p