SENATE COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT
March 03, 2005 Hearing Room B
3:10 P.M. Tapes 26 - 28
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Frank Shields, Chair
Sen. Bruce Starr
Sen. Joanne Verger
Sen. Vicki Walker
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Gary George, Vice-Chair
STAFF PRESENT: Judith Callens, Committee Administrator
Gary Roulier, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 752 – Public Hearing
SB 507 – Public Hearing
SB 984 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 26, A |
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003 |
Chair Shields |
Opens the meeting at 3:13 p.m. and discusses the agenda. Opens a public hearing on SB 752. |
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SB 752 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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014 |
Judith Callens |
Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of SB 752. |
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030 |
Sen. Walker |
Summarizes the intent of the bill. |
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060 |
Sen. Walker |
Reviews the additional reporting requirements for the State Accident Insurance Fund (SAIF) contained within the bill. |
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090 |
Chair Shields |
Welcomes guests in the audience. |
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107 |
Brenda Rocklin |
Interim President and Chief Executive Office, SAIF Corporation. Testifies in opposition to SB 752. |
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122 |
Chair Shields |
Asks Sen. Walker the differences between SB 752 and SB 310. |
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125 |
Sen. Walker |
Reviews the differences. |
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146 |
Rocklin |
Notes that her experience with submitting the budget with the Oregon Lottery did not seem to present any problems. Adds they would be able to comply with Legislative Fiscal Office (LFO) needs. |
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189 |
Chris Davie |
Communications Director, SAIF Corporation. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT A) and testifies in opposition to SB 752. Reviews SAIF objections to some of the provisions of the bill. |
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218 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks for a description of the differences between an “operational report” and a “financial report.” |
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223 |
Davie |
Summarizes the requirements already contained within the statutes and the differences between the two reports. |
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242 |
Sen. Verger |
Asks for an explanation of SAIF’s budget procedures prior to their current procedures. |
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261 |
Davie |
Notes they will provide that information and continues with a review of their objections to the bill. |
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274 |
Sen. Walker |
Notes the differences between SAIF and other state agencies and summarizes the provisions related to the budget contained within SB 310 (2005). |
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295 |
Rocklin |
Discusses the provisions in SB 310 (2005) with Sen. Walker. |
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323 |
Davie |
Responds to Sen. Verger with an explanation of the current reporting requirements. |
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343 |
Chair Shields |
States that there is a potential for bringing all of the provisions of these bills together. |
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380 |
Chair Shields |
Closes the public hearing on SB 752 and opens a public hearing on SB 507. |
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SB 507 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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390 |
Devon Lyon |
Oregonians for Sound Economic Policy. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT B) and testifies in support of SB 507. |
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TAPE 27, A |
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007 |
Lyon |
Reviews past requests for SAIF documents in 2000 and the intent contained within SB 507. |
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054 |
Lyon |
States that SB 507 would solve the public record concerns expressed over the past few years. |
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083 |
Sen. Walker |
Notes that she agrees with the spirit of public record transparency. |
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090 |
Chair Shields |
Asks Rocklin to respond to the preceding witness. |
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095 |
Rocklin |
Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT C) and testifies in opposition to SB 507. Notes that the transparency desired with regard to public records is contained within the provisions of SB 310 (2005). |
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119 |
Pete Shepherd |
Deputy Attorney General, Department of Justice. Reviews the Attorney General’s role in public records law. |
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141 |
Shepherd |
Continues with a discussion of public records law and the presumption of transparency. |
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184 |
Shepherd |
Reviews how certain requests for public records have been resolved and the relevant case law. |
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194 |
Chair Shields |
Asks if the appellate court considered previous guidelines on public records laws. |
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203 |
Shepherd |
Reviews the actions of the appellate court. |
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230 |
Chair Shields |
Asks what the effect would be if the legislation under consideration was not moved forward. |
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235 |
Shepherd |
Answers that future requests would face a great deal of uncertainty. |
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269 |
Chair Shields |
Asks if it would be correct that the recent appellate court decision would set a precedent. |
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282 |
Shepherd |
Responds that the appellate decision defines one particular circumstance, but is probably not broadly applicable. |
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307 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks why the appellate court decision doesn’t become part of the case history. |
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317 |
Shepherd |
Answers that the appellate court decision does not apply to the general categories concerning public records. |
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337 |
Sen. Verger |
Asks if the court considered SAIF to be similar to other state agencies. |
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347 |
Shepherd |
Responds that the court held SAIF to be different and reviews the findings. |
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361 |
Chair Shields |
Asks how the differences between SAIF and other agencies came into being. |
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375 |
Shepherd |
Reviews the statute. |
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387 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks who sought the appeal to the appellate decision. |
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396 |
Shepherd |
Responds that the Attorney General’s office sought review. |
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399 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks if other state agencies would be impacted by the court’s opinion. |
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401 |
Shepherd |
Answer that his review indicates that the decision is unique to SAIF. |
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420 |
Shepherd |
Summarizes how a body of law is accumulated to deal with public records. |
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TAPE 26, B |
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001 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks about the trade secret exclusion. |
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012 |
Shepherd |
Reviews case law related to trade secrets. |
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037 |
Sen. Walker |
Notes that the decision by the appellate court allowed us to discover many of the problems associated with SAIF. |
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053 |
Chair Shields |
Asks how the attorney general’s office would have felt about the inability to discover problems within SAIF if they had prevailed in the case. |
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060 |
Shepherd |
Responds by reviewing the role of the attorney general and how they normally advise agencies on questions of public records disclosure. |
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103 |
Chair Shields |
Closes the public hearing on SB 507 and opens a public hearing on SB 984. |
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SB 984 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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110 |
Callens |
Explains the provisions of the bill. |
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126 |
Brian Boe |
Vice President of Public Affairs, Liberty Northwest Insurance Corporation. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT D) and testifies in support of SB 984. |
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178 |
Boe |
Reviews the history of workers’ compensation insurance in Oregon. |
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208 |
Boe |
Summarizes the intent of SB 984. |
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249 |
Boe |
Discusses the number of employers in the assigned risk plan. |
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299 |
Boe |
Continues with comments on the advantages of SAIF’s federal income tax exemption. |
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350 |
Boe |
Relates the practice of accommodation accounts. |
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388 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks if one of the risks of passing this legislation is that we would go back to a situation where SAIF is losing money. |
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400 |
Boe |
Answers that he does not believe that would occur and reviews how other states manage workers’ compensation insurance. |
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TAPE 27, B |
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012 |
Chair Shields |
Comments on why the assigned risk pool is so large and the public mission of SAIF. |
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023 |
John Shilts |
Administrator, Workers’ Compensation Division, Department of Consumer and Business Services. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT E) and testifies on their concerns about SB 984. |
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077 |
Shilts |
Continues discussion of technical issues within the bill. |
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082 |
Chair Shields |
Asks who pays for the premium credits. |
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093 |
Shilts |
Responds that the credits are subsidized by all policy holders within the state. |
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104 |
Chair Shields |
Asks how other states handle the assigned risk pool and discusses the credits program with the witness. |
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127 |
Shilts |
Answers that those in the assigned risk pool would pay lower premiums with credits and summarizes how other states handle subsidies. |
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153 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks about SAIF’s ability to remain solvent if SB 984 is passed. |
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177 |
Shilts |
Answers that SAIF would be taking on more risk with less opportunity to mitigate their exposure. |
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182 |
Sen. Walker |
Asks if the reason Oregon has such low rates is that we are efficient in the prevention of accidents. |
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199 |
Shilts |
Answers that the major reason for low rates is the decline of injuries. Discusses the reason for the lower accident rates with Sen. Walker. |
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221 |
Sen. Walker |
Stresses that SAIF is not the reason for the low rates in the state. |
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241 |
Shilts |
Emphasizes the importance of information on the assigned risk pool. |
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255 |
Chair Shields |
Notes the difference between businesses that have high loss records and new businesses. |
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268 |
Davie |
Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT F) and testifies in opposition to SB 984. |
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311 |
Davie |
Reviews legislation related to federal taxation of state workers’ compensation insurance funds. |
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360 |
Chair Shields |
Asks what percentage of new businesses wind up in the assigned risk pool. |
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374 |
Davie |
Does not know how many businesses would be in that pool but adds the information will be made available. |
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392 |
Sen. Verger |
Notes that those businesses not interested in accident prevention should not be subsidized by those who are. |
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TAPE 28, A |
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002 |
Shilts |
Agrees that policy discussions should be held on who subsidizes the assigned risk pool. |
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014 |
Davie |
Summarizes an informal survey of accounts in the assigned risk pool. |
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034 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks about the standard imposed by SB 984 that would not comport with sound insurance principles. |
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039 |
Davie |
Responds that SAIF is required by current statute to perform in accordance with sound insurance principles. |
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050 |
Sen. B. Starr |
Asks if this would affect SAIF’s ability to remain solvent. |
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052 |
Davie |
Answers that taking additional bad risks would force them to charge higher premiums to other accounts. |
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065 |
Sen. Verger |
Comments that companies investing in safety are attempting to not be a burden on their insurance carrier. |
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075 |
Davie |
Agrees that taking on higher risks would penalize those good businesses. |
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084 |
Shilts |
Notes that low workers’ compensation rates give Oregon a competitive advantage. |
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099 |
Chair Shields |
Discusses the committee work plan, closes the public hearing on SB 984 and adjourns the meeting at 5:16 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY