SENATE COMMITTEE ON GENERAL GOVERNMENT

 

 

March 11, 2005                                                                                             Downtown Fire Station                                   

10:30 A.M.                                                                                                            Corvallis, Oregon

                                                                                                                                      Tapes 33 - 36

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Frank Shields, Chair

Sen. Gary George, Vice-Chair

Sen. Joanne Verger

Sen. Vicki Walker

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Sen. Bruce Starr

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Judith Callens, Committee Administrator

Gary Roulier, Committee Assistant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:        

SB 2 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 3 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 4 – Public Hearing

SB 5 – Public Hearing

SB 557 – Public Hearing

SB 79 – Public Hearing and Work Session

SB 562 – Public Hearing

SB 817 – Public Hearing

 

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 33, A

010

Chair Shields

Calls the meeting to order at 10:44 a.m. Introduces the Mayor of Corvallis.

028

Chair Shields

Opens a public hearing on SB 2, SB 3, SB 4 and SB 5.

SB 2, SB 3, SB 4, SB 5 – PUBLIC HEARING

037

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of the bills. Presents the -1 amendments to SB 2 (EXHIBIT A) and SB 3 (EXHIBIT B).

086

Sen. Peter Courtney

Senate District 11. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT C) and suggested legislation on XI-M bonds (EXHIBIT D).

131

Sen. Courtney

Summarizes the expected damage from a severe-magnitude earthquake involving the Cascadia mountain range subduction zone.

180

Sen. Courtney

Reviews expected losses at Oregon State University in the event of a large earthquake.

231

Sen. Courtney

Outlines the building studies that will be necessary to prioritize the work.

285

Chair Shields

Talks about a recent committee meeting regarding budget cuts to the Department of Geology and Mineral Industries (DOGAMI).

316

Chair Verger

Asks if there has been any discussion on considering a combination of grants and loans.

324

Sen. Courtney

Responds that he is not sure if loans were discussed.

330

Sen. Verger

Comments that buildings that would not fit into the first prioritization schedule should have access to a low interest loan program.

350

Sen. Courtney

Notes that the cost of retrofitting some buildings could be prohibitive. Reviews the retrofitting of a building at Western Oregon University.

400

Sen. Walker

Reviews a recent Oregonian article regarding tsunamis and the difficulty coastal condominium associations have in purchasing earthquake insurance.

TAPE 34, A

006

Sen. Courtney

Outlines school construction in Waldport where the school is being located on high ground.

037

Sen. Walker

Summarizes a workshop on tsunami preparedness.

084

Vicki McConnell

State Geologist, DOGAMI. Presents written testimony in support of  SB 3 (EXHIBIT E).

129

McConnell

Reviews the procedures for conducting seismic rehabilitation.

179

McConnell

Outlines the statewide needs assessment.

212

Sen. George

Asks if it is possible to move the monies earmarked for bonding into some preliminary research.

222

McConnell

Replies it is her understanding that is not possible.

242

Sen. George

Asks if any of the bonding bills could be amended to do the research.

250

McConnell

Answers she is not aware if that can be done and adds an explanation of how grant eligibility would be determined.

288

Sen. George

Asks for a review on how much work has been done to date.

293

McConnell

Responds with a summary of work to date.

319

Yumei Wang

Seismic Safety Policy Advisory Commission (OSSPAC). Submits written testimony in support of Senate Bills 2, 3, 4, (EXHIBIT F). Submits written testimony from Jim Doane, OSSPAC Chair and from Carol Hasenberg, Portland State University (EXHIBIT G).

368

Wang

Outlines her recent experience studying the tsunami in Thailand.

402

Diane Merten

Oregon Seismic Safety Policy Advisory Commission (OSSPAC). Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT H) and testifies in support of SB 2, SB 3, SB 4 and SB 5.

TAPE 33, B

010

Merten

Reviews past earthquakes involving the Cascadia subduction zone.

022

Merten

Presents written testimony by Thomas Manning in support of SB 2,   SB 3 and SB 557 (EXHIBIT I).

039

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 2, SB 3, SB 4 and SB 5, and opens a public hearing on SB 557.

SB 557 – PUBLIC HEARING

047

Sen. Bill Morrisette

Senate District 6. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT J) and testifies in support of SB 557.

090

Sen. Morrisette

Summarizes tsunami evacuation timeframes for various communities on the coast.

145

Sen. Walker

Notes there is a lack of tsunami warnings in the state parks.

160

Sen. Morrisette

Replies that warnings are posted along the highway; parks may be above the danger zones.

189

Sen. George

States that the key to these measures is to get funding.

213

Sen. Morrisette

Comments on the importance of standardizing the warning systems.

238

Terry Thompson

Commissioner, Lincoln County. Testifies in support of SB 557.

265

Thompson

Outlines the effect of underwater landslides.

278

Jim Holly

Emergency Services, Lincoln County. Testifies in support of SB 557.

331

Sen. Verger

Stresses that people are accustom to emergency procedure warnings on aircraft and would not be frightened by tsunamis warnings.

372

Sen. Morrisette

Notes that relief efforts would have to come from the sea as the roads would be impassable.

TAPE 34, B

008

Thompson

Talks about the under-funding of emergency services and the attempts to organize the offshore fishing fleet to respond to a tsunami emergency.

016

Kenneth Murphy

Director, Oregon Emergency Management. Presents written testimony (EXHIBIT K) and testifies in support of SB 557.

063

Chair Shields

Asks about the offshore fleet and how quickly they could respond to an emergency.

075

Thompson

Relates efforts to organize the fleet to respond and efforts to establish effective communications.

115

Holly

Outlines present communication capabilities.

126

Thompson

Comments on the need to have contracts in place with boat owners.

135

Chair Shields

Notes that all of the bills deal with mitigation of the disaster. Re-opens the public hearing on SB 2, SB 3, SB 4 and SB 5.

SB 2, SB 3, SB 4, SB 5, SB 557 – PUBLIC HEARING

152

Thompson

Comments that in the recent tsunami children were not able to respond.

189

James Bela

Portland resident. Testifies in support of tsunami education and         SB 557.

238

Bela

Outlines evacuation routes on the Oregon coast.

255

Frankie Petrick

Fire Chief, Yachats Fire District. Testifies in support of SB 557.

312

Sen. Verger

Asks about the possibility of a loan program for building rehabilitation.

316

Petrick

Responds that a local option tax is being looked at and the possibility of a loan would be important to them.

341

Sen. Verger

Restates the importance of having the availability of low interest rate loans.

353

Sen. George

Asks about the use of containers on high ground supplied with water and canned goods.

374

Petrick

Replies that each community has responded differently. Adds that one concern is about perishable goods.

414

Sen. George

Stresses the importance of training for emergencies.

TAPE 35, A

002

Petrick

Relates the training for children in her district.

012

Bela

Submits an information packet consisting of written testimony, maps and flowcharts (EXHIBIT L). Testifies in opposition to Senate Bills SB 2, SB 3, SB 4 and SB 5.  

049

Bela

Emphasizes the importance of foresight in emergency planning.

092

Bela

Points out that statewide building codes are inadequate for earthquake protection.

146

Bela

Outlines the lack of attention to earthquake issues.

183

Sen. George

Asks where is our preparedness is on a scale of one to ten.

192

Bela

Replies that the timeframe is too lengthy.

202

Chair Shields

Recesses the meeting at 12:46 p.m.

203

Chair Shields

Reconvenes the meeting at 1:07 p.m.

235

Greg Jeffrey

Finance Manager, Department of Administrative Services (DAS). Testifies in support of SB 4.

280

Jeffrey

Discusses proposed amendments to SB 4.

290

Cynthia Byrnes

Department of Justice. Testifies in support of SB 4 and summarizes the proposed changes contained within the amendments.

336

Brynes

Summarizes technical changes to how the bonds are issued.

377

Brynes

Notes there is language within the Oregon Constitution which would allow a loan program.

TAPE 36, A

006

Laura Lockwood

State Treasurer’s Office. Testifies in support of SB 4.

021

Bob Simonton

Director of Capital Construction, Oregon University System. Testifies in support of SB 4.

053

Sen. George

Notes the University System needs to let the legislature know how these pieces of the system fit together.

063

Simonton

Responds with an explanation on Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) funding matches.

085

Vicki McConnell

State Geologist. Submits written testimony in support of SB 557 (EXHIBIT M). Explains the phenomenon of teletsunamis.

100

Marshall Coba

American Council of Engineering Companies of Oregon. Submits written testimony in support of SB 3, SB 4 and SB 5 (EXHIBIT N).

135

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 2, SB 3, SB 4, SB 5 and SB 557 and opens a work session on SB 2.

SB 2 – WORK SESSION

145

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 2-1 amendments dated 3/9/05.

 

 

VOTE:  3-0-2

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  2 - B. Starr, Walker

 

Chair Shields

The motion CARRIES.

158

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves SB 2 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

 

 

VOTE:  3-0-2

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  2 - B. Starr, Walker

 

Chair Shields

The motion CARRIES.

163

Chair Shields

Closes the work session on SB 2 and opens a public hearing on SB 79.

SB 79 – PUBLIC HEARING

165

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of the bill.

180

Vicki McConnell

State Geologist. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Q) and testifies in support of SB 79.

213

James Bela

Portland resident. Testifies in opposition to SB 79. Remarks that the surveys in question are rapid visual screenings which are not reliable.

255

Bela

Examines new building construction standards on earthquake resistance.

310

McConnell

Agrees that these screenings are the first step in an involved process.

334

Sen. Verger

Asks Mr. Bela what authority should determine the criteria.

336

Bela

Answers a structural engineer; reviews the possible total costs involved.

371

Sen. Verger

Comments that structural engineers are not part of the equation and would want structural engineers as part of the process.

387

Bela

Notes that recent measures spell that out.

394

McConnell

Adds that the state-wide needs assessment is just part of the initial steps.

TAPE 35, B

006

Sen. Verger

Stresses that the public requires clarity on these issues.

011

Sen. George

Asks if the purpose is to perform a pre-qualification.

019

McConnell

Answers that is correct and was the intent of the legislation.

029

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 79 and opens a work session on SB 79.

SB 79 – WORK SESSION

031

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves SB 79 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

AYE:     In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - B. Starr

 

Chair Shields

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. GEORGE will lead discussion on the floor.

092

Chair Shields

Closes the work session on SB 79 and opens a work session on SB 3.

SB 3 – WORK SESSION

050

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 3-1 amendments dated 3/9/05.

 

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - B. Starr

 

Chair Shields

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

054

Sen. George

MOTION:  Moves SB 3 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

058

Sen. Verger

Notes her concern that the Committee on Ways and Means considers loans.

084

 

VOTE:  4-0-1

AYE:            In a roll call vote, all members present vote Aye.

EXCUSED:  1 - B. Starr

 

Chair Shields

The motion CARRIES.

097

Chair Shields

Closes the work session on SB 3 and opens a public hearing on SB 562.

SB 562 – PUBLIC HEARING

127

Joe Pope

Association of Washington School Principals. Testifies in support of SB 562.

144

Jim Finnell

Chief Executive Officer, Prepared Response. Presents an informational packet containing a White Paper on First Responder Public Building Information System, HB 1218 (State of Washington 2003), correspondence and news articles,(EXHIBIT P). Testifies in support of SB 562.

194

Finnell

Summarizes State of Washington programs to map high schools to inform first responders.

216

Kenneth Murphy

Oregon Emergency Management. Submits written testimony expressing concerns with the scope of the projects contained within the legislation (EXHIBIT Q).

267

Pope

Reviews the costs to local entities.

289

Chair Shields

Notes that the League of Oregon Cities does not see a need for the legislation.

302

Finnell

Answers that the mapping has been very beneficial in Washington.

336

Chair Shields

Notes that Senator Brown has asked the committee to wait on some amendments.

340

Sen. Walker

Comments that the intent is good but perhaps the scope of the bill is too large.

365

Finnell

Adds that they have had discussions with Oregon First Responders and adds that there would be value in seeing the entire mapping program.

370

Sen. Kate Brown

Submits written testimony in support of SB 562 (EXHIBIT R).

402

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 562 and opens a public hearing on   SB 817.

SB 817 – PUBLIC HEARING

TAPE 36, B

003

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Explains the provisions of the bill.

014

Ryan Tribbett

Legislative Assistant, Senator Rick Metsger. Testifies in support of        SB 817.

040

Kenneth Murphy

Director, Oregon Emergency Management. Testifies in support of     SB 817.

082

Murphy

Reviews outdated infrastructures.

124

Sen. Verger

Reviews communication issues with past emergencies. Expresses that mishaps would have been prevented if communications were automated.

144

Murphy

Explains the emergency communications system.

165

Sen. George

Talks about the importance of digital communication.

190

Murphy

Agrees and stresses that the ability to communicate is vital.

224

James Bela

Portland resident. Testifies in support of SB 817.

273

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 817 and adjourns the meeting at 2:11 p.m.

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

  1. SB 2, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
  2. SB 3, -1 amendments, staff, 2 pp
  3. SB 2, SB 3, SB 4, SB 5, written testimony, Senator Peter Courtney, 2 pp
  4. Seismic Rehabilitation, proposed amendments, Senator Peter Courtney,

5 pp

E. SB 3, written testimony, Vicki S. McConnell, 1 p

F. SB 2, SB 3, SB 4, SB 5, written testimony, Yumei Wang, 3 pp

G. SB 2, SB 3, SB 4, SB 5, written testimony of Jim Doane and Carol Hasenberg, Yumei Wang, 4 pp

H. SB 2, SB 3, SB 4, SB 5, written testimony, Diane Merten, 2 pp

I. SB 2, SB 3, SB 557, written testimony of Thomas E. Manning, Diane Merten, 1 p

J. SB 557, prepared testimony, Senator Bill Morrisette, 1 p

K. SB 557, prepared testimony, Kenneth D. Murphy, 1 p

L. SB 557, informational materials (2001), James Bela, 25 pp

M. SB 557, written testimony, Vicki S. McConnell, 1 p

N. SB 3, SB 4, SB 5, written testimony, Marshall Coba, 1 p

O. SB 79, prepared testimony, Vicki S. McConnell, 1 p

P. SB 562, first responders information, informational materials, Jim Finnell, 15 pp

Q. SB 562, written testimony, Kenneth D. Murphy, 1 p

R. SB 562, prepared testimony, Senator Kate Brown, 1 p