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Speaker

Comments

TAPE 41, A

005

Chair Shields

Calls the meeting to order at 3:15 p.m. Announces that SB 964 has been moved to Thursday’s meeting and SB 590 has been removed. Opens a work session on SB 156.

SB 156 – WORK SESSION

028

Catherine Pollino

Secretary of State Audits Division. Explains that SB 156 provides a funding mechanism and clarifies that all funding sources that go to school districts can be audited.  Explains that the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT A) clarify that these are performance audits and not financial statement opinion audits. Adds that the amendments establish an advisement committee and has a sunset provision.

058

Sen. Walker

Asks if there are objections to the -1 amendments.

065

Pollino

Responds that the amendments address the concerns they felt could be addressed.

072

Sen. Walker

Asks how much does the audit cost and how is it paid.

073

Pollino

Responds that SB 156 does not require a certain level of audit work and does not have a fiscal impact. Explains there is a program option package which would provide additional resources to the work or the current resources could be used but using current resources would take away from another agency audits.

079

Chair Shields

Comments that this is more of a funding issue.

105

Sen. B. Starr

Reiterates there is not a fiscal impact.

101

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Summarizes the Legislative Fiscal and Revenue impact statements (EXHIBIT B).

114

Sen. B. Starr

Asks if the measure has a referral to the Committee on Ways and Means.

115

Chair Shields

Responds no it does not. Explains that this measure attempts to create a system where no local school district gets caught with an audit.

128

Sen. B. Starr

Asks if there has been consideration given to marring the bill to a policy option package.

130

Pollino

Explains the reason for keeping them separate.

137

Chair Shields

Clarifies that this is like assessments in other departments but this system has not been in the public school system.

151

Pollino

Answers affirmatively.

154

Sen. B. Starr

Comments that one way or the other the money will be coming from limited resources and suggests that the Committee on Ways and Means consider the bill.

162

Sen. Walker

Inquires if school districts have been billed in past audits.

178

Pollino

Responds this happened in Klamath Falls many years ago and created a large problem as an audit cost was not anticipated.

192

Sen. Walker

Asks do ESDs have local CPAs doing the financial audits.

199

Pollino

Answers yes.

200

Sen. Verger

Wonders if the focus should be to help the schools and have the legislature become more efficient.

207

Pollino

Responds that performance audits encompass a wide variety of topics that would allow for looking at best practices.

220

Sen. Walker

MOTION:  Moves to ADOPT SB 156-1 amendments dated 3/16/05.

222

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - George

Chair Shields

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

224

Sen. Walker

MOTION:  Moves B 156 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED AS AMENDED recommendation.

231

Sen. B. Starr

States that he will be a no vote based on the fiscal and revenue impact statements and believes the bill should be referred to the Committee on Ways and Means.

245

Chair Shields

Agrees that money will come from either point A as an assessment or point B as a local school district budget.

253

Sen. Walker

Acknowledges Sen. B. Starr’s concerns and states that transparent and accountable government is a common goal. Supports the bill.

256

VOTE:  3-1-1

AYE:               3 - Verger, Walker, Shields

NAY:               1 - Starr B.

EXCUSED:     1 – George

262

Chair Shields

The motion CARRIES.

SEN. SHIELDS will lead discussion on the floor.

263

Chair Shields

Closes the work session on SB 156 and opens the work session on     SB 706 and invites testimony from Senator Carter and Representative Hansen.

SB 706 – WORK SESSION – INVITED TESTIMONY

269

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Explains what SB 706 does. States that the   -1 and -2 amendments (EXHIBIT C) were worked out Housing and Urban Development (HUD).

287

Sen. Margaret Carter

Senate District 22. States that last session this concept was voted unanimously in the Senate. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of SB 706 (EXHIBIT D).

361

Chair Shields

Asks if there has been any substantial change that would influence the vote outcome of the previous session.

363

Sen. Carter

Responds there was an issue of this bill being a vehicle for other legislation. Expresses that the current administration has looked at this issue very seriously and Oregonians are human rights oriented.

388

Sen. Walker

Inquires if SB 706 is identical to the bill last session.

389

Sen. Carter

Responds that the realtors’ wanted an amendment regarding tax credits.

412

Mark Kirchmeier

Testifies on behalf of Representative Gary Hansen in support of enforcing antidiscrimination laws in housing.

431

Dan Gardner

Commissioner, Bureau of Labor and Industries. Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 706 (EXHIBIT E) plus a copy of the hand engrossed bill (EXHIBIT F).

TAPE 42, A

010

Gardner

States there were three elements to the bill last session: substantially equivalent, a City of Portland tax credit, and facially neutral policies.

030

Annette Talbott

Deputy Labor Commissioner, Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI). States that the -2 amendments include the -1 amendments and is included in the hand engrossed version (EXHIBIT F). Talks about the technical amendment. Refers to the technical amendments on page 11. Reviews the bracketed sections that refer to facially neutral policies.

058

Sen. B. Starr

Asks why is the enforcement on BOLI and not Oregon Housing and Community Services.

064

Gardner

Responds bill is sponsored by Senator Carter, Representatives Hansen and Shields at the request of Housing and Community Services. States that BOLI has the experience and expertise to do discrimination investigations.

071

Amy Klare

Administrator Civil Rights Division. States there will be testimony regarding fair housing being a three legged stool: BOLI in regard to enforcement, Fair Housing in regard to outreach and investigations and the State Housing Council regarding statewide housing plans.

087

Matt Farmer

General Counsel Oregon Association of Realtors. States their interest is in only the provisions explained by BOLI that could be removed without changing the bill making Oregon law consistent with federal law.

126

Farmer

Explains how the evidentiary issue can be a problem.

137

Pegge McGuire

Executive Director, Fair Housing Council of Oregon. Tells of recent instances of discrimination. Submits a brochure and reads prepared testimony in support of SB 706 (EXHIBIT G).

219

Sen. Verger

Comments illegality of discrimination.

238

Jeanne Arana

Community Resources Administrator, Oregon Housing and Community Services (OHCS). Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of SB 706 (EXHIBIT H).

295

Chair Shields

States that SB 706 needs to be finalized. Closes the invited testimony and closes the work session on SB 706. Opens the public hearing on  SB 835.

The following material is submitted for record without public testimony (EXHIBIT I) City of Portland Bureau of Housing and Community Development, William L. White, Director.

SB 835 – PUBLIC HEARING

298

Judith Callens

Committee Administrator. Reviews the provisions of SB 835.

316

Xochitl Esparza

Service Employees International Union, Local 503. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of SB 835 and a copy of the Department of Revenue’s information on personal income tax in Spanish  (EXHIBIT J).

351

Chair Shields

Confirms that the caucus is spread over many governmental departments.

378

Esparza

Responds affirmatively.

373

Juliana Avila

(Esparza translates) Describes a situation where she had to resolve tax issues and no one spoke Spanish.

405

Maria Barba

Resident of Independence. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of SB 835 (EXHIBIT K) and notes that she is representing herself.

TAPE 41, B

023

Sen. Walker

Confirms that the forms are not easy and citizens are being deprived of filing their own tax returns because these documents are not in their own language.

030

Barba

Responds affirmatively.  

050

Susan Browning

Deputy Director, Department of Revenue. Submits (EXHIBIT L) which is an example of what is currently available on the Department of Revenue web site. Expresses concerns and states there is more involved than simply translating the language.

084

Browning

Notes there are other populations that are not Spanish speaking. Notes the implementation of SB 835, in the timeline noted in the bill, is a resource issue.

118

Chair Shields

Asks why would the request to a return and demand to file a return forms be translated before a 40S form.

120

Browning

Responds the intention is to translate the forms as well as the booklet and notices in Spanish.

140

Chair Shields

States it seems backward that there is a demand to file a return but a Spanish speaking person can not access a form in Spanish.

156

Browning

Responds that the multilingual committee suggested that these forms be done first based on where the demand and issues are.

162

Chair Shields

Asks for a response to Ms. Avila’s testimony regarding no one being available who could speak Spanish. Asks if the 11 Spanish speaking people in the office all agents.

183

Browning

Answers no, some are tax auditors, tax payer assistance and collections of delinquent tax dept.

186

Chair Shields

Asks how many of the 11 would be out front to assist those customers who cannot speak English.

189

Browning

Answers there are two in the Salem office, one in Medford and one in Portland.

195

Sen. B. Starr

Asks if they have the authority to this without this bill.

210

Browning

Responds affirmatively.

213

Sen. B. Starr

Asks does the department have a plan to develop these forms in Spanish.

220

Browning

Responds affirmatively.

231

Sen. B. Starr

Asks if the department employs people to speak to other second language speakers.

234

Browning

Responds there is a list of employees that are fluent in other languages. Other languages include Russian, Vietnamese, Laotian, Korean, and Chinese.

241

Chair Shields

Asks of these languages which is the largest population and how does it compare with the Latino population.

245

Browning

Responds Russian although smaller than the Hispanic population is centralized in certain parts of the state.

252

Browning

Responds it has been estimated that the expected number of returns filed by Latino Oregonians ages 15 – 64 speaking Spanish as a primary language is 115,000.

256

Chair Shields

Comments that 9% of Oregonians are Latino.

258

Sen. Walker

Comments that the Latino population is the fastest growing population in Oregon.

266

Chair Shields

Recesses the public hearing on SB 835. Opens the public hearing on SB 889 and SB 929.

SB 889  PUBLIC HEARING

291

Rep. Jackie Dingfelder

House District 45. Submits and reads written testimony in support of SB 889 (EXHIBIT M).

317

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 889 and reopens the public hearing on SB 835.

SB 835 – PUBLIC HEARING

354

Gabriel Silva

Citizen. Comments on the translation services he has provided in various jobs and personal circumstances. Supports SB 835 as a first step in assisting a better understanding of laws and requirements.   

375

Sen. Verger

Asks should every document printed in English be printed in Spanish.

384

Silva

Responds no, but believes critical documents should be.

301

Sen. Verger

Asks is it more of an educational process rather than just a translation of the forms.

405

Silva

Answers critical documents would provide basic information that would generate questions.

446

Chair Shields

Asks is this a pilot project.

456

Browning

Responds that this has already been happening in various state agencies. 

458

Chair Shields

Asks if the Department of Revenue is performing as well as other state agencies.

461

Browning

Responds that there is a lot more that can be done.

TAPE 42, B

021

Sen. Walker

Asks are these efforts that other state agencies are doing mandated by federal or state government.

026

Silva

Answers there are federal laws that require it if federal funds are being received.

056

Sen. Walker

Comments on the availability of language translation in the courts.

062

Joe Schaeffer

Service Employees International Union Local 503 (SEIU). Points out that this is also a work load issue. Supports SB 835.  

080

Sen. Walker

Asks if it is the same individuals that are affected by the workload also the community volunteers.

083

Schaeffer

Responds affirmatively.

087

Sen. Walker

States the Latino population wants to be good citizens but are limited by the ability to read the documents.

100

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 835 and opens the work session on    SB 835.  

SB 835 – WORK SESSION

111

Sen. Walker

MOTION:  Moves SB 835 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Ways and Means by prior reference.

102

Sen. Verger

Expresses that there are many multicultural dialects and comments on other ways that community groups help others.

134

Sen. Starr

Concurs with Sen. Verger that there is a lot of diversity in Oregon. Asks if this is done for one shouldn’t it be done for all.  

145

VOTE:  4-0-1

EXCUSED:  1 - Sen. George

Chair Shields

Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED.

149

Chair Shields

Requests that the Department of Revenue contact him to discuss these issues.

151

Sen. Walker

Suggest having discussions with the Attorney General to see what are the responsibilities of the various departments to provide documents to the Spanish speaking population.

159

Chair Shields

Closes the work session on SB 835 and opens the public hearing on       SB 889 and SB 929.

SB 889 AND SB 929 PUBLIC HEARING

188

Carolyn Reeves

Submits and reads prepared testimony in opposition to SB 889 describing the greyhound adoption process (EXHIBIT N).

266

Jeffery Yen

Law Student and employee of the Humane Society. States that a ban on greyhound racing is unreasonable. Provides information on the welfare of greyhounds in Oregon. Refers to correspondence from Dr. Hultine Oregon Racing Commission Staff Veterinarian to Lisa Schaffer MGP Track Superintendent (EXHIBIT KK).

Prepared testimony in support submitted for the record without public testimony by Kelly Peterson (EXHIBIT LL).

323

Dr. Linda Blythe

Corvallis. Submits prepared testimony in opposition to SB 889 (EXHIBIT O) and passes around text books. Summarizes that her work has been in education and research to promote the breed.

464

Sen. Verger

Asks if there is a possibility that a track could be provided and recover racing for dogs.

470

Blythe

Responds that there is an interested party and believes it could be economical.

TAPE 43, A

054

Connie Theil

Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 889 and a copy of correspondence from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA). Explains that greyhound racing is a web, a profit-driven industry and believes that dog racing should be banned (EXHIBIT P).  

124

Suzzette Vedder

Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 889 (EXHIBIT Q).

152

Matt Rossell

In Defense of Animals. Submits prepared testimony in support of        SB 889 narrating headlines documenting violations and scandals in the greyhound industry (EXHIBIT R).

208

Chair Shields

Asks have Oregonians voted with their wallet because of cruelty to the dogs or because of the diversity of gambling opportunities. Asks for what reasons has greyhound racing been outlawed in other states.

223

Rossell

Responds that he believes there is a growing concern in the community and an awareness of the abuses.

225

Theil

Concurs that people are learning about dog racing.

240

Sen. B. Starr

Asks if In Defense of Animals objects to horse racing and dog sled racing.

243

Rossell

Answers affirmatively.

244

Sen. B. Starr

Asks what about dogs trained for hunting.

245

Rossell

Responds that officially there is not a campaign against individual hunters nor against dog sled racing. .

275

Connie B. Durkee

Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of SB 889       (EXHIBIT S).

291

Shelby Knife

North Portland resident. Submits prepared testimony in support of     SB 889 narrating the reasons why racing greyhounds are not bred to be pets (EXHIBIT T).

331

Nancy Sussman Fugit

Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 889 narrating the cruelty of the sport (EXHBIT U).

363

Chair Shields

Asks where did the information on Ronald Rhodes killing 3,000 dogs come from.

364

Sussman-Fugit

Answers that it came from Oregon Defenders of Greyhounds (ORDOG) and was also well published.

362

Cheryl K. Lund

Submits and reads written testimony in support of SB 889 narrating the cruelty of breeding dogs for racing (EXHIBIT V).

418

Brian Lee

Submits prepared testimony in opposition to SB 889 narrating the merits of greyhound racing and how it differs from other forms of gambling (EXHIBIT W).

TAPE 44, A

070

Eileen Marr

West Linn resident. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony in support of SB 889 narrating pet overpopulation and inhumane treatment (EXHIBIT X).

115

Chelsea Chilcoat

Portland resident. Submits and reads prepared testimony in support of SB 889 narrating the low quality of food that is fed to racing dogs            (EXHIBIT Y).

146

Heather Hines

Indigo Rescue. Submits prepared testimony and news articles narrating information on the Ronald Floyd incident (EXHIBIT Z).

180

Steve Herrington

Portland resident. Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 889 and emphasizes the mistreatment of greyhounds (EXHIBIT AA).

200

Diane Kippes

Submits prepared testimony and injury documentation. Urges support to ban greyhound racing (EXHIBIT BB).

210

Penny Troolin

Lake Oswego resident. Summarizes prepared testimony in support of SB 889 and notes the inclusion of the history of greyhound racing in Oregon (EXHIBIT CC).

274

Sen. B. Starr

Asks if she feels the same way about horse racing.

256

Troolin

Responds that her knowledge is in dog racing and does not have an opinion on horse racing.

268

Sydney Most

Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 889 (EXHIBIT DD).

308

Paul Romain

Attorney in Portland representing the Oregon Greyhound Association. States preference to hear the amended version of SB 929.

341

Dave Nelson

Magna Entertainment Corp. Submits and reviews page one of prepared testimony on SB 929 (EXHBIT EE).

434

Scott Daruty

Chief Counsel for Magna Entertainment Corp. Provides an overview of Magna Entertainment Corp. and the reasons Magna chose to enter the Oregon market. States that $21 million has been invested and projections are that losses will continue.

TAPE 43, B

074

Daruty

Reviews accomplishments and defines “export handles” which has increased by 275%. States that in the last five years, dollars wagered by people in Oregon dropped off 25% to date.

083

Chair Shields

Asks if this is an indication of competition with other forms of gambling in Oregon.

091

Daruty

Responds there is competition from growth in video lottery and Indian casinos.

124

Daruty

Refers to purse agreement discussions with greyhound owners and the acknowledgment that the race track was losing money and that without a subsidy by the racetrack greyhound racing is economically infeasible.

151

Daruty

Continues, stating that year round simulcasting and year round off-track wagering will maintain the horseracing industry.

203

Chair Shields

Announces that SB 556 will be rescheduled.

220

Daruty

Concludes testimony.

242

Gary Martin

President, Oregon Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association. Testifies in support of SB 929. Submits and summarizes prepared testimony of Ursula V. Gibbons in support of SB 929 (EXHIBIT FF).

254

Jack Root

Provides a personal background on experience with the horseracing industry.

324

David R. Benson

President, Oregon Horseman’s Benevolent & Protective Association. Submits prepared testimony in support of SB 929 (EXHIBIT GG) narrating the benefits of horse racing at Portland Meadows.

405

John McCulley

Oregon Fairs Association. Submits prepared testimony in support of  SB 929 and the impact that horseracing has on not-for-profit local race meets in Burns, Tillamook, Prineville, Grants Pass and Union               (EXHIBIT HH).

456

Sen. B. Starr

Confirms there is a reliance on horseracing in Oregon and not that there is a cash incentive.

462

McCulley

Answers there is cut from the handle at the racing site but not at Portland Meadows.

TAPE 44, B

014

Sen. B. Starr

Clarifies that they need the horses and would not be able to draw those owners for the small races.

030

Steve Walters

Chair, Oregon Racing Commission. States that without simulcasting there would be no racing in Oregon. States that even if the simulcasting was divided between the greyhound meet and the horse meet it will not support two significant commercial race meets in Oregon. Expresses concern that if the horse track goes away and someone wants to start a greyhound racing meet in Oregon with the simulcasting rights, SB 889 would prohibit it.

070

Walters

Comments on earlier testimony regarding SB 889 regarding the tracking of greyhounds in Oregon. States that the Oregon Racing Commission has licensed, inspected, and monitor the conditions of the farms regularly.

091

Chair Shields

Asks if there was suitable financing to regulate the industry.

096

Walters

Answers affirmatively. Adds there is a no-kill rule in Oregon. States that all greyhounds whelped on a greyhound farm that is licensed is placed for adoption and they are tracked. Adds that none of the greyhounds in the Alabama case were from Oregon.

114

Chair Shields

Asks if there are interstate agreements in regard to the welfare of these animals.

127

Walters

Answers no.

130

Chair Shields

Asks if there was a penalty in the Alabama case.

130

Walters

Answers that it is his understanding that Mr. Floyd was criminally prosecuted, had his license revoked and is banned from greyhound racing throughout the United States.

130

Sen. Verger

Ask if Mr. Walter has seen or read the -4 amendments           (EXHIBIT NN).

143

Walters

Answers no he has not read them. Responds that it would be difficult if the casino is built.

145

Sen. Verger

Asks if this bill were to pass is there confidence that Portland Meadows will remain the track that it is today.

149

Walters

Answers not with 100% certainty, noting the competition of other forms of gambling.

163

Sen. Verger

Ask if Mr. McCulley has seen or read the -4 amendments        (EXHIBIT NN).

164

McCulley

Responds he has not read them.

165

Sen. Verger

Asks how many lines are needed to simulcast.

166

McCulley

Answers he does not know.

163

Sen. Verger

Ask if Mr. Benson has seen or read the -4 amendments          (EXHIBIT NN).

167

Benson

Answers he has not.

145

Sen. Verger

Asks if this bill were to pass is there confidence that Portland Meadows will remain the track that it is today.

171

Benson

Responds it is his opinion that the track should have the opportunity.

167

Sen. B. Starr

Asks, assuming there was someone who wanted to bring dog racing to Oregon, why can’t the off track betting do both dog and horse racing year round. Asks why should the government restrict an investor who is willing to make the investment.

204

Walters

Respond it is a matter of how much revenue can be generated. Speculates on allowing the racing commission to grant year round simulcasting rights and not specify for what track. Adds an investment on a track would have to be a substantial investment.

236

Walters

Comments on the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT MM).

257

Chair Shields

Asks Mr. Daruty to respond to the affects of Portland Meadows if a major casino lands in LaCenter.

241

Scott Daruty

Responds if a large scale tribal casino is built in the metro area it will be the end of racing and the state lottery.  

313

Ronald Weeden

Oregon Greyhound Breeders’ Association and Oregon Greyhound Owners. Submits prepared testimony in opposition to SB 929 including correspondence from Pioneer Resources (EXHIBIT II).

387

Weeden

Concludes testimony citing the loss of revenue to the state.

390

Kirk Schaffer

Firefighter, City of Portland and President Oregon Greyhound Breeders Association. Submits and reads testimony in opposition to SB 929 (EXHIBIT JJ).

430

Schaffer

Continues with testimony and discusses simulcast aspects

496

Paul Romaine

Attorney in Portland representing the Oregon Greyhound Association. Refers to the Yiddish word “hoodspah” and gives a legal example.

TAPE 45, A

038

Romaine

Relates “hoodspah” to SB 929. Explains the essence of the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT MM). States that what is being asked for is to be given an opportunity and discusses Pioneer Resources.

090

Sen. Verger

Asks Mr. Romaine if he has seen the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT NN).

091

Romaine

Answers he has not seen the -4 amendments.

092

Sen. Verger

Ask will Portland Meadows remain the track that it is today.

099

Romaine

Answers no, agrees the LaCenter casino will affect of lot of different things. Adds that they would like to do the greyhound track combined with some other type of entertainment knowing that there may be a large gambling complex north of Portland. States this issues is about simulcasting not racing.

100

Chair Shields

Asks what does he say to those who say it will be a second rate track.

110

Romaine

Responds that a second rate track is not acceptable.

114

Chair Shields

States that Mr. Walters did not sound very optimistic about both horseracing and greyhound racing being able to survive.

125

Romaine

Responds that given the chance, economically greyhound racing is viable, and would like the marketplace to determine the outcome.

144

Sen. Verger

Asks where would the greyhounds race.

145

Romaine

Answers it depends on where the track is built. A marriage between NASCAR and greyhounds is already being done in Daytona.

159

Sen. Verger

Asks what would the investment be f or a track.

160

Romaine

Responds he has no idea.

163

Sen. B. Starr

Asks why can’t there be one screen for horses and one for dogs.

170

Romaine

Responds that would be potentially practical. Adds their legislation would provide the opportunity for both and let the market decide.

180

Sen. B. Starr

Asks if he would be fine with the horseracing six months of the year and the dog-racing six months a year. Opines that this seems to be a compromise and let the market figure it out.

193

Walters

Responds that the difficulty is who gets the revenue and how is it divided. Revenue is not large enough to support two big race meets and survive without killing each other off.

224

Romaine

States a willingness to work with something along those lines.

261

Nelson

Explains that the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT NN) put SB 889 into             SB 929. The first 28 pages delete references of authorization for greyhound racing in Oregon and the last 35 pages have sections in land use law that permit kennels in a farm use zone and the final amendment makes it effective January 2009.

286

Romaine

States opposition to the amendments.

292

Chair Shields

States this needs further consideration. Expresses concern with the “restraint of trade.” Expresses that he would like more discussions on whether both races can survive and what a mega complex LaCenter means to Oregon.

326

Nelson

Speculates that investment in a track would be around $30 – $40 million for a first rate track.  

351

Romaine

Comments this is all speculation. Reiterates giving free enterprise a chance. States that Portland Meadows has a history of problems regarding viability.

The following prepared testimony was submitted for the record without public testimony, (EXHIBIT OO, Jackie Phillips.

378

Chair Shields

Closes the public hearing on SB 889 and 929 and adjourns the meeting at 7:24 p.m.