SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
February 14, 2005 Hearing Room B
1:00 P.M. Tapes 14 - 15
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Chair
Sen. Jeff Kruse, Vice-Chair
Sen. Peter Courtney
Sen. Gary George
Sen. Bill Morrisette
STAFF PRESENT: Rick Berkobien, Committee Administrator
Brittany Kenison, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 490 – Public Hearing
Introduction of committee measures – Work Session
SB 289 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 458 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 14, A |
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003 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Calls meeting to order at 1:02 p.m. Opens public hearing on SB 490. |
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SB 490 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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015 |
Tom Holt |
Executive Director, Oregon State Pharmacy Association. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 490 (EXHIBIT A). |
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065 |
Holt |
Continues to discuss testimony in support of SB 490. |
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080 |
Holt |
Addresses concerns by the opponents. |
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110 |
Holt |
Discusses belief of minimal fiscal impact. |
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120 |
Holt |
Mentions an amendment to have the minimum age at 12, however the amendments could not be ready. |
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140 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks what the minimum age parental consent is no longer required. |
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145 |
Holt |
Offers to return information to the committee. |
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146 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Comments that the age is 15 years old. |
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148 |
Linda Howard |
PHr, Pharmacy Department, Fred Myer. Testifies in support of SB 490. Discusses concern of the minimum age being 18 years old and how that affects their business. |
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170 |
Jim Lace |
MD, Salem, OR. Submits and presents testimony in opposition of SB 490 (EXHIBIT A).. |
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240 |
Lace |
Continues to discuss reasons for opposition to SB 490. |
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285 |
Lace |
Expresses concern of businesses having the flu vaccines, while there office could not get any. |
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325 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if Lace would have concerns if the pharmacy only administers the flu vaccine. |
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330 |
Lace |
Answers no and adds to fix the flu distribution. |
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340 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if it would be cheaper and timely for patients to go to pharmacy. |
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345 |
Lace |
Answers no and explains how. |
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360 |
Sen. Kruse |
Clarifies that even if the flu vaccine distribution issue was fixed, the witness would still not agree for pharmacies to administer flu vaccinations to children. |
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363 |
Lace |
Affirms. |
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365 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks if that is considered good access. |
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369 |
Lace |
Clarifies that his clinic sets up days where they only administer flu vaccines. |
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370 |
Sen. Kruse |
Comments on the access for having parents and children able to get their flu shots at one place. |
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372 |
Lace |
Explains how children should only being seeing one doctor to make sure that the child receives all the proper shots. |
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392 |
Sen. Kruse |
Comments on issues of the immunization schedule and asks why people should have to go to two different places to receive the flu shot. |
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415 |
Lace |
Explains what is best for children. Clarifies in the bill that they can administer any vaccine to persons under the age of 18. |
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TAPE 15, A |
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003 |
Lorraine Duncan |
Immunization Program Manager, Health Services, Office of Family Health, Oregon Department of Human Services. Submits and presents testimony in opposition to SB 490 (EXHIBIT C). |
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035 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks if the cut off age for pharmacies to administer the flu shot, if Department of Human Services objects. |
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037 |
Duncan |
Explains that they would oppose the bill still and explains why. |
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040 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if they would object to pharmacies only administering the flu vaccine. |
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042 |
Duncan |
Answers yes and explains how children usually receive multiple shots. |
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045 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks up to what age do children receive multiple vaccines. |
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050 |
Duncan |
Answers up to twenty four months. |
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051 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Clarifies Duncan’s answer. |
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052 |
Lace |
Clarifies immunization schedule. |
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055 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Clarifies that they are only discussing the flu vaccine. Asks if after 24 months, parents could take child in for the flu shot with out interfering with the immunization schedule. |
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060 |
Duncan |
Explains how many children fall behind in schedule. |
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063 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if a three year old received a flu shot at a pharmacy would interfere with the immunization scheduled. |
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067 |
Duncan |
Answers that only if the child needs other shots that they are behind in. |
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070 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks Holt to come back up to address concerns from the opponents of the bill. Comments on complexity of immunization scheduled. |
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085 |
Holt |
Comments that they will compromise on age level. Comments on the pharmacies being an access point. Suggests order from a physician below age limit. Comments on Oregon being a national model for reporting each immunization to primary care. |
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105 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks if pharmacies are required to report to the Children immunization registry. |
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106 |
Holt |
Answers no. |
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110 |
Chair Morrisette |
Comments to witnesses to work on amendments. Closes public hearing on SB 490 and opens a public hearing on SB 189. |
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SB 189 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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115 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Seeing no witnesses, closes public hearing and opens a work session on SB 189. |
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SB 189 – WORK SESSION |
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120 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves SB 189 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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125 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Monnes Anderson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. MORRISETTE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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130 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes work session on SB 189. Opens work session for introduction of committee measures. |
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INTRODUCTION OF COMMITTEE MEASURES - WORK SESSION |
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135 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Introduces LC 1650 (EXHIBIT D) and LC 2781 (EXHIBIT E). |
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140 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves LC's: 1650, 2781 BE INTRODUCED as committee bills. |
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145 |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Monnes Anderson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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150 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes work session for introduction of committee measures and opens a public hearing on SB 458. |
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SB 458 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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165 |
Doug Barber |
Willamette Dental. Testifies in support of SB 458. |
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175 |
Gary Allen |
Director of Clinical Support, Quality Improvement and Training, Willamette Dental. Submits and presents testimony in support of SB 458 (EXHIBIT F). |
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255 |
Steve Duffin |
Oregon Dental Association. Submits and presents testimony in support of SB 458 (EXHIBIT G). |
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300 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Comments on shortage of dentists. Asks if California has the same laws as Washington. |
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310 |
Steve |
Answers no. |
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315 |
Paul Cosgrove |
Oregon Dental Hygienist Association. Testifies in support of SB 458. |
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355 |
Jay Wylam |
Chairman, Government Relations Panel, Oregon Dental Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 458. |
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410 |
Wylam |
Continues to discuss reasons of opposition for SB 458 |
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430 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks how the regional exams are different. |
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435 |
Wylam |
Explains that the east coast schooling is very different from the west coast. Does not know the specific differences, offers to return information to the committee. |
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460 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks if Virginia’s schooling is considered the same as the Northeast. |
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TAPE 14, B |
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020 |
Wylam |
Answers that he is not sure. |
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025 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Comments on her experience visiting a dental clinic in Virginia and did not notice a difference from the West coast. |
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040 |
Wylam |
Comments on difference of opinion. |
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050 |
Patrick Braatz |
Oregon Board of Dentistry. Comments that they are not taking position on the bill. Submits and presents statistics of access for dentistry (EXHIBIT H). |
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100 |
Sen. Kruse |
Clarifies that statistics assume that dentists who don’t have Oregon address, don’t practice here. |
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105 |
Braatz |
Answers people who live in Seattle are not included but offers to return information to the committee.. |
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110 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks what the people were disciplined for. |
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115 |
Braatz |
Comments on issue of misdistribution and access. Reviews statistics where out of state licensures per county. |
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140 |
Braatz |
Discusses concern about the bill. |
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160 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks if Doug has met with Oregon Board of Dentistry to address issues. |
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165 |
Barber |
Answers no the have not. Would be willing to meet to address concerns. |
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175 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Addresses concerns of bill. |
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178 |
Sen. George |
Refers to Gary Allen’s testimony. Asks if previously, they have experienced out of state dentists who have not practiced in a clinic, then apply in Oregon. |
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185 |
Barber |
Answer that they do not have data to support that situation. |
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200 |
Sen. Kruse |
Comments on need for dentists in Eastern Oregon. |
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210 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Comments on dentist in John Day, Oregon that cannot retire because there is no one to replace him. |
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215 |
Barber |
Comments on issues with out of state dentists. |
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230 |
Sen. George |
Comments on considering dentists with less experience to get dentists to eastern Oregon. |
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245 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes public hearing on SB 458 and adjourns the meeting at 2:15 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 490, written testimony, Tom Holt, 5 pp
B. SB 490, written testimony, Jim Lace, 3 pp
C. SB 490, written testimony, Lorraine Duncan, 2 pp
D. Introductions, LC 1650, staff, 5 pp
E. Introductions, LC 2781, staff, 10 pp
F. SB 458, written testimony, Gary Allen, 2 pp