SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY
March 14, 2005 Hearing Room B
1:00 P.M. Tapes 39 - 40
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Chair
Sen. Jeff Kruse, Vice-Chair
Sen. Peter Courtney
Sen. Gary George
Sen. Bill Morrisette
STAFF PRESENT: Rick Berkobien, Committee Administrator
Brittany Kenison, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 298 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 697 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 698 – Public Hearing
SCR 7 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 880 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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Speaker |
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TAPE 39, A |
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003 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Calls the meeting to order at 1:01 p.m. Opens a public hearing on SB 298. |
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SB 298 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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010 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Seeing no witnesses, closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SB 298. |
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SB 298 – WORK SESSION |
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012 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Introduces and explains the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
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020 |
Sen. Courtney |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 298A -1 amendments dated 3/14/05. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Sen. Kruse |
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Chair Monnes Anderson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BROWN will lead discussion on the floor. |
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025 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes the work session on SB 298 and opens a public hearing on SB 697. |
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SB 697 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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040 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Submits -1 amendments (EXHIBIT B). |
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042 |
Marshall Coba |
Oregon Society of Physician Assistants. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 697 (EXHIBIT C). |
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050 |
Scott Byers |
President, Oregon Society of Physician Assistants. Testifies if support of SB 697. |
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070 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks if there is any known opposition to SB 697. |
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072 |
Byers |
Answers, no. |
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The following material is submitted for the record without public testimony: |
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Karen Whitaker |
Vice-Provost, Oregon Health and Science University Center for Rural Health. Submits written testimony in support of SB 697 (EXHIBIT D). |
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075 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SB 697. |
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SB 697 – WORK SESSION |
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080 |
Sen. Courtney |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 697A-1 amendments dated 3/10/05. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Monnes Anderson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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083 |
Sen. Courtney |
MOTION: Moves SB 697A to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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087 |
Sen. George |
States that he does not have the -1 amendments. |
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090 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Explains the -1 amendments. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Monnes Anderson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. MORRISETTE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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100 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes the work session on SB 697 and opens a public hearing on SB 698. |
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SB 698 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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105 |
Marshall Coba |
Oregon Society of Physician Assistants. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 698 (EXHIBIT E). |
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125 |
Scott Beyer |
President, Oregon Society of Physician Assistants. Testifies in support of SB 698. |
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140 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks for clarification on having a physician involved in rural areas. |
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145 |
Beyer |
Explains that they do not have to be physically present. |
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149 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Comments on the chain of command the bill will create. Asks witness to confirm statement regarding possible problems. |
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155 |
Beyer |
Affirms. |
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158 |
Karen Whitaker |
Vice Provost, Oregon Health and Science University (OHSU) center for Rural Health. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 698 (EXHIBIT F). |
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170 |
Nan Hein |
Oregon Ambulance Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 698. |
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220 |
Dave Lapof |
Oregon Ambulance Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 698. |
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250 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Clarifies that the medics have constant communication with physicians. |
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255 |
Lapof |
Affirms. Elaborates. |
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275 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Ask to clarify that medic would not have to follow the instructions of a physician assistant (PA). |
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285 |
Lapof |
Answers, no and defers to Shawn Baird for further clarification. |
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295 |
Shawn Baird |
Oregon Volunteers Firefighters Association. Answers the Chair’s question. Submits and presents written testimony in opposition to SB 698 (EXHIBIT G). |
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365 |
Sen. George |
Asks if any daily routine would change if the bill became law. |
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385 |
Baird |
Answers question. |
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388 |
Sen. George |
Clarifies that carrier states are only authorized to receive instructions from a licensed physician. |
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390 |
Baird |
Affirms. Adds that he has to provide his insurance company with a copy of their state license. |
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393 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks if that is the same for Nurse Practitioners. |
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395 |
Baird |
Responds, no. |
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398 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Clarifies response. |
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400 |
Baird |
Answers and explains. |
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413 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks if insurance companies are requiring medics to make contact with emergency room doctors only. |
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418 |
Baird |
Answers and explains procedure. |
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430 |
John Praggastis |
Vice President, Oregon State Paramedic Association. Submits and presents written testimony in opposition to SB 698 (EXHIBIT H). |
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TAPE 40, A |
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020 |
Praggastis |
Continues discussing opposition to SB 698. |
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040 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Submits written testimony from Ritu Sahni, Physician, Lake Oswego, Oregon, in opposition to SB 698 (EXHIBIT I), and written testimony in opposition to SB 698 from Denise Giard, President, Oregon Fire Medical Administrators Association (OFMAA) (EXHIBIT J) for the record. States that a work session will not be held. Closes the public hearing on SB 698 and opens a public hearing on SCR 7. |
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SCR 7 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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055 |
Jo Bell |
Director, Oregon Association of Hospitals and Health Systems. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SCR 7 (EXHIBIT K). |
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080 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SCR 7. |
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SCR 7 – WORK SESSION |
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082 |
Sen. Courtney |
MOTION: Moves SCR 7 be sent to the floor with a BE ADOPTED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 5-0-0 |
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Chair Monnes Anderson |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. MONNES ANDERSON will lead discussion on the floor. |
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083 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Closes the work session on SCR 7 and opens a public hearing on SB 880. |
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SB 880 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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100 |
Martin Taylor |
Oregon Nurses Association. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 880 (EXHIBIT L). |
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125 |
Elizabeth Ladu |
Immediate Past Chair, Nurse Practitioners of Oregon. Explains the bill and testifies in support of SB 880. |
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175 |
Ladu |
Continues to explain the bill. |
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190 |
Anne Barry-Leaver |
Nurse Practitioner, Salem, Oregon. Submits written testimony explaining the bill and testifying in support of SB 880. |
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230 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks about communicable disease and how it relates with institutions. |
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245 |
Taylor |
Answers that there are three (3) sections in the bill that relate to the communicable disease center. Elaborates. |
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265 |
Sen. Kruse |
Comments on making sure that the new authority is connected. |
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275 |
Ladu |
Clarifies the intent of the bill. |
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275 |
Sen. Kruse |
Re-clarifies statement on the new authority in the bill. |
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277 |
Taylor |
Comments that the bill adds Nurse Practitioner after the word physician. |
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280 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Comments on section six (6) of the bill. Elaborates. |
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290 |
Ladu |
Comments that a Nurse Practitioner has an equal level of responsibility to physicians in reporting communicable disease. |
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300 |
Barry-Leaver |
States that patients need to know that Nurse Practitioners have authority. |
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320 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Refers to section thirteen (13) of the bill and asks if there is a disagreement as well. |
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325 |
Taylor |
Comments that there are different goals in mind. |
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327 |
Ladu |
Comments on section thirteen (13) of SB 880. |
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350 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks for a specific example of a pregnant woman that needed to have a transfer. |
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355 |
Ladu |
States that she cannot think of specific example. Provides another example. |
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390 |
Sen. Kruse |
Refers to section thirteen (13) relating to SB 698. |
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397 |
Taylor |
Explains the job of the Nurse Practitioner and how they work with medics. |
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415 |
Sen. Kruse |
States that the issue is with the relationship with medics. |
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425 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Asks to provide other examples of conflicts with medics and Nurse Practitioners. |
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437 |
Ladu |
Answers that scenarios like that are rare and explains. |
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TAPE 39, B |
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003 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Comments on arguments to SB 698 (2005) |
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006 |
Sen. Kruse |
Comments on section thirteen (13) of the bill and dealing with emergency situations. |
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020 |
Andi Easton |
Oregon Medical Association (OMA). Testifies in opposition to SB 880. |
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033 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Clarifies that she was not notified about this bill. |
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035 |
Easton |
Affirms. |
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037 |
John Praggastis |
Vice President, Oregon State Paramedic Association. Submits and presents written testimony in opposition to SB 880 (EXHIBIT N). |
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065 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
States that the ultimate goal and focus should be on taking care of the patient. |
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068 |
Sen. George |
Comments on Nurse Practitioners being the third supervisor for medics. States that would compounding a problem. |
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070 |
Praggastis |
Confirms statement. Provides further concerns on SB 880. |
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090 |
Sen. George |
Comments on possible concerns of the bill. |
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095 |
Praggastis |
Affirms that the bill will cause problems. Further comments on regular chain of command. |
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103 |
Sen. George |
Asks who would have the ultimate authority and if that needs to be defined by law if the bill was passed. |
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105 |
Praggastis |
Explains how the chain of command is in statute and how the bill would disrupt that. |
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125 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Comments on shortage of physicians in rural areas. Comments on personal experience with a Nurse Practitioner. |
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150 |
Praggastis |
States that there are almost 200 certified physicians in Oregon that operate within the ambulance arena. Comments on rural areas. |
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165 |
Shawn Baird |
Oregon Volunteers Firefighters Association. Testifies in opposition to SB 880. Comments on previous testimony by the Nurse Practitioners. |
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190 |
Chair Monnes Anderson |
Asks for parties to work together to solve conflicts. Closes public hearing on SB 880 and adjourns meeting at 2:15 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 298, -1 amendments, staff, 3 pp
B. SB 697, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
C. SB 697, written testimony, Marshall Coba, 2 pp
D. SB 697, written testimony, Karen Whitaker, 1 p
E. SB 698, written testimony, Marshall Coba, 1 p
F. SB 698, written testimony, Karen Whitaker, 1 p
G. SB 698, written testimony, Shawn Baird, 1 p
H. SB 698, written testimony, John Praggastis, 2 pp
I. SB 698, written testimony, Ritu Sahni, 1 p
J. SB 698, written testimony, Denise Giard, 1 p
K. SCR 7, written testimony, Jo Bell, 6 pp
L. SB 880, written testimony, Martin Taylor, 2 pp
M. SB 880, written testimony, Ann Barry Leaver, 3 pp
N. SB 880, written testimony John Praggastis, 2 pp