SENATE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH POLICY

 

 

May 16, 2005                                                                       Oregon State Hospital, Salem, Oregon

1:00 P.M.                                                                                                                      Tapes 69 - 70

Corrected 9/30/2005

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Sen. Laurie Monnes Anderson, Chair

Sen. Jeff Kruse, Vice-Chair

Sen. Peter Courtney

Sen. Gary George

Sen. Bill Morrisette

 

GUEST MEMBERS:             Sen. Margaret Carter

                                                Sen. Avel Gordley

                                                Sen. Ben Westlund

 

STAFF PRESENT:                 Rick Berkobien, Committee Administrator

Brittany Kenison, Committee Assistant

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:         Rep. Billy Dalto, Chair

Rep. Bob Jenson, Vice-Chair

Rep. Gordon Anderson

Rep. Deborah Boone

Rep. Tom Butler

Rep. Mitch Greenlick

 

MEMBER EXCUSED:          Rep. Carolyn Tomei, Vice-Chair

 

GUEST MEMBERS:             Rep. Bruce Hanna

                                                Rep. Gary Hansen

                                                Rep. Gene Whisnant

 

MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:

Phase I of the Oregon State Hospital Master Plan: General Framework Report – Informational Meeting

 

These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules.  Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words.  For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.

 

TAPE/#

Speaker

Comments

TAPE 69, A

003

Chair Monnes Anderson

Calls the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m.  Opens an informational meeting on Phase I of the Oregon State Hospital Master Plan: General Framework Report.

PHASE I OF THE OREGON STATE HOSPITAL MASTER PLAN: GENERAL FRAMEWORK REPORT – INFORMATIONAL MEETING

010

Chair Monnes Anderson

Discusses the Oregon State Hospital.

045

Barry Kast

Assistant Director, Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS).  Provides background on the Oregon State Hospital.  

078

Sen. Morrisette

Asks Kast if patients of the hospital were interviewed for the report.

083

Kast

Responds, yes.

086

Sen. Morrisette

States that the patients should be listed under the “Stakeholders” section of the report.

088

Chair Monnes Anderson

Interjects that the patients are listed as “consumers” in the report.

090

Rick Berkobien

Committee Administrator.  Comments that microphones need to be shared among the members.

095

Chair Dalto

Introduces himself.

100

Bob Nikkel

Administrator, State Office of Mental Health and Addiction Services, Oregon DHS.  Discusses their working relationship with KMD Architects.

125

Vernon Almon

Director, KMD Architects.  Submits a report entitled, “Framework Master Plan:  Phase I Report” (EXHIBIT A).  Introduces himself.  Makes opening remarks.

153

Almon

Discusses Phase I of the Master Plan for the Oregon State Hospital.  Presents an overview of the report.

182

Jim Diaz

Principal, Healthcare Group, KMD Architects.  Comments on how the mental health system is more important than the buildings.

195

Almon

Discusses the process conducted for the Master Plan Report.

250

Chair Dalto

Asks if any surprises were found in any of the buildings.

251

Almon

Defers answer to later in the presentation.  Reviews a map of the Oregon State Hospital grounds.

275

Almon

Explains how codes and regulations were part of the report process.

305

Almon

Presents the physical assessment overview.

385

Chair Dalto

Asks Almon to identify each building with its corresponding number and damage potential.

390

Almon

Responds.

405

Sen. George

Discusses the condition of a building that he studied in Newberg, Oregon. Asks if the conditions of the buildings at the State Hospital are similar.

411

Almon

Responds, yes.

415

Chair Dalto

Asks if Building 42 and Building 43 are currently unoccupied.

420

Almon

Answers, yes.

433

Sen. Courtney

Asks Almon a question regarding seismic figures.

445

Almon

Responds.

450

Sen. Courtney

Discusses reports documenting projected seismic figures.  Asks why they chose the seismic figures listed in the report.

TAPE 70, A

005

Diaz

Answers question.

015

Almon

Discusses psychiatric patient care unit rules.

055

Almon

Discusses the planning and design deficiencies of Building 50.

080

Chair. Dalto

Asks Almon if the $25 million for remodeling is only for Building 50.

082

Almon

Responds, yes. Continues discussing Building 50.

100

Almon

Discusses the system of care.

145

Almon

Discusses specific populations at the Oregon State Hospital.

165

Chair Monnes Anderson

Asks if every state hospital has psychiatric beds.

168

Tom Gross

Medical Planner, KMD Architects.  Responds, no.  Elaborates.

173

Almon

Discusses the conclusions from the report.  Provides recommendations.

205

Sen. Courtney

Asks if the timeline to create the report was too short.

215

Diaz

Answers, no.  Elaborates.

228

Sen. Courtney

Discusses the issues identified in the report.  Asks if some of the buildings should be closed immediately.

255

Almon

Responds.

280

Chair Dalto

Discusses a contingency plan from DHS to move patients.

285

Almon

Comments regarding the contingency plan.

292

Sen. George

Refers to EXHIBIT A, page seven (7).  Asks about the buildings not meeting the Americans with Disabilities Act standards.

297

Diaz

Responds.

305

Chair Monnes Anderson

Asks if asbestos and lead are in all of the buildings.

307

Almon

Answers question.

322

Sen. Kruse

Discusses his interest and background in the mental health system.  Discusses the importance of community settings.

342

Sen. Gordley

Asks for verification that they do not recommend patients move because there is no place to move them.

320

Almon

Responds.

363

Sen. Gordley

Asks about the contingency plan for patients in the hospital.

370

Almon

Responds.

380

Bob Nikkel

Discusses moving patients to other facilities.

420

Sen. Gordley

Verifies with Nikkel that there is not a contingency plan, but there have been discussions regarding one.

425

Nikkel

Answers, yes.

428

Rep. Hanna

Asks what the timeline would be for a new hospital if every recommendation was approved.

440

Almon

Answers, three to five years.

443

Rep. Hanna

Asks what the cost would be to implement the recommendations.

TAPE 69, B

010

Diaz

Responds.

030

Sen. Carter

Asks how long it would take to start implementing their recommendations.

050

Nikkel

Responds.

070

Sen. Carter

Comments on moving forward to get the project completed.

080

Sen. Morrisette

Asks if they have examined or considered mental health system models from other states.

092

Diaz

Responds.

120

Nikkel

Responds to Sen. Morrisette’s question.

132

Sen. Courtney

Refers to statements on pages four, eight and nine of EXHIBIT A.   Asks if laws need to be considered when implementing recommendations.

162

Almon

Responds.

186

Sen. Gordley

Asks Nikkel a question regarding the funding for the State Hospital in comparison to California.

198

Nikkel

Responds.  Offers to return information to the committee.

248

Sen. Gordley

Asks if either the Senate Health Policy committee or the House Health and Human Services committee has considered a law similar to California’s.

253

Chair Monnes Anderson

Responds, no.

257

Chair Dalto

Responds, no.

258

Sen. Gordley

Recommends that a work group be formed to evaluate California’s new law.

263

Sen. Courtney

Ask why the campus in eastern Oregon was not considered in the report.

270

Diaz

Responds.

278

Sen. Courtney

Asks if the Department of Corrections will be involved during phase II.

283

Almon

Answers, yes.  Elaborates.

290

Nikkel

Comments regarding previous discussions with the Department of Corrections.

295

Sen. Kruse

Comments on the need of transitional programs.

320

Chair Dalto

Asks if the report is available on the internet.

327

Nikkel

Responds, yes.  Provides address.

330

Chair Monnes Anderson

Closes the informational meeting on Phase I of the Oregon State Hospital Master Plan: General Framework Report.  Adjourns the meeting at 2:23 p.m.

 

 

EXHIBIT SUMMARY

 

A.     Oregon State Hospital Master Plan, Phase 1 of the, report, Vernon Almon, 76 pp