SENATE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES
March 01, 2005 Hearing Room D
3:00 P.M. Tapes 26 - 27
Corrected 10/25/05
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Bill Morrisette, Chair
Sen. Jeff Kruse, Vice-Chair
Sen. Rick Metsger
Sen. Laurie Monnes Anderson
Sen. Charles Starr
STAFF PRESENT: Rick Berkobien, Committee Administrator
Dawn Tuso, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 623 - Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 553 - Public Hearing
SB 418 – Public Hearing
SB 419 - Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 26, A |
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005 |
Chair Morrisette |
Calls meeting to order at 3:08 p.m. Opens public hearing on SB 623. |
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SB 623 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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013 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 623 (EXHIBIT A). Introduces the -1 amendments for SB 623 (EXHIBIT B). |
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030 |
Bruce Goldberg |
Administrator, Office for Oregon Health Policy and Research. Testifies on SB 623. |
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040 |
Missy Dolin |
Administrator, Oregon Prescription Drug Program. Testifies on SB 623. Submits PowerPoint handout (EXHIBIT C). Talks about the Oregon prescription drug program that just began today. |
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096 |
Goldberg |
States that it is a great prescription drug program. Feels that SB 623 is more of an administrative issue around the way the bill was originally drafted. |
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109 |
Jim Markee |
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA). Testifies in support of SB 623. Supports the -1 amendments. |
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130 |
Don Stetcher |
Associate Director of Government Affairs, Norvartis Pharmaceuticals. Testifies in support of SB 623. Mentions support of the legislature providing oversight of the program. |
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141 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if he recommends it as standard procedure for every bill that the legislature passes in relation to administrative rules. |
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145 |
Stetcher |
Replies that he doesn’t feel that it is a bad idea but thinks others would disagree. |
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148 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if there is a reason why we are doing it with this particular bill. |
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149 |
Stetcher |
Responds that his client feels that some legislative oversight is important. |
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151 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if his client is here today. |
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152 |
Stetcher |
Replies no. |
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155 |
Chair Morrisette |
Remarks that he hoped Mr. Gardner could have come to the meeting today. |
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157 |
Stetcher |
States that Gardner and Markee both represent PhRMA. |
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159 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks who’s idea it was. |
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161 |
Markee |
Responds that he was not involved in the drafting of the bill. |
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165 |
Holly Robinson |
Legislative Counsel. Testifies on SB 623. Talks about SB 623 and the -1 amendments. |
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204 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if it has an effect on the rules that were previously adopted by the agency. |
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207 |
Robinson |
Explains. |
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220 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if it is a solution looking for a problem. States that it might be a no trust situation. Asks what impact it has on Goldberg’s ability to run a program. |
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230 |
Goldberg |
Explains that they would like the opportunity to be able to move forward in an administratively efficient manner. |
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247 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if Goldberg would like to continue the legislative process as it currently exists. Explains question in detail. |
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265 |
Goldberg |
Responds that he doesn’t see the need for an assurance of oversight. |
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273 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks if the -1 amendments prevent Goldberg from doing his job. |
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275 |
Goldberg |
Replies no. |
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278 |
Sen. Kruse |
Mentions that the workgroup product called for legislative oversight and says that it seems like a break of faith to eliminate that right now. |
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290 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 623 and opens public hearing on SB 553 (EXHIBIT D). |
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SB 553 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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303 |
Sen. Morse |
Represents Senate District 8. Testifies on SB 553. Talks about the -1 amendments for SB 553 (EXHIBIT E). |
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338 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if it is at the request of the Self Help for Hard of Hearing People, Oregon (SHHH-OR). |
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340 |
Sen. Morse |
Replies yes. |
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344 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if Sen. Morse is taking ownership of SB 553. |
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353 |
Sen. Morse |
Says that he is only an advocate of SB 553. |
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367 |
Chair Morrisette |
Appreciates his position on SB 553. |
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373 |
Sen. Morse |
Comments with respect to the intent of the -1 amendments. Shares that Andy Evans anticipates that the new seat would be filled by a consumer advocate from a field such as nursing, geriatrics, social or vocational rehabilitation counseling, education, senior center workers, or the like. |
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388 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 553 and opens public hearing on SB 623. |
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SB 623 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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395 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 623. Committee stands at ease. |
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400 |
Chair Morrisette |
Opens public hearing on SB 418. |
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SB 418 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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403 |
Rick Berkobien |
Gives overview of SB 418 (EXHIBIT F). States that SB 418 has a subsequent referral to the Revenue committee. |
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TAPE 27, A |
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003 |
Sen. Metsger |
Clarifies purpose of SB 418. |
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022 |
George Scheler |
Oregon Association of the Deaf. Testifies in support of SB 418. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G). |
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050 |
Fred Peters |
Consumer Representative, Hearing Aid Licensure Council. Testifies in support of SB 418. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT H). |
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078 |
Eric Frederick |
Oregon Speech Language and Hearing Association. Testifies in support of SB 418. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I). |
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116 |
Suzanne Collins |
Polk County Resident. Testifies in support of SB 418. |
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129 |
Chair Morrisette |
States that there is a group in Lane County that works with children with hearing losses. Says that they emphasize that the sounds in early development are very important. Appreciates the testimony. |
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143 |
Scott Austin |
Oregon Hearing Society. Testifies in support of SB 418. |
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157 |
Andrew Evans |
Self Help for Hard of Hearing People, Oregon (SHHH-OR). Testifies in support of SB 418. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J). |
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194 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 418 and opens public hearing on SB 623. |
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SB 623 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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217 |
Bruce Goldberg |
Administrator, Office for Oregon Health Policy and Research. Amends previous testimony. Refers to Sen. Kruse’s question regarding the -1 amendments and whether or not it would affect the way they operate the program. States that it is clear in the language of the amendment that it would inhibit their ability to run the program. Explains in detail. |
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245 |
Chair Morrisette |
Responds to Goldberg’s testimony. |
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252 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if the main part of SB 623 is needed to continue the Oregon prescription drug plan. |
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257 |
Goldberg |
Replies yes. |
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263 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 623 and opens work session on SB 623. |
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SB 623 – WORK SESSION |
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272 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
MOTION: Moves SB 623 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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275 |
Sen. Kruse |
Says that he thought that they were going to be given more time to come up with something appropriate. |
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280 |
Chair Morrisette |
Re-states feeling that it is a solution looking for a problem. Explains reason to move forward with a work session on SB 623. |
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327 |
Sen. Kruse |
Admits that the -1 amendments are not written properly and are much too restrictive. Feels that there is a compromised solution. Requests a week to come up with a solution. |
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368 |
Chair Morrisette |
Accepts the recommendation. |
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372 |
Sen. C. Starr |
MOTION: Moves to TABLE the motion to move SB 623 to the floor with a DO PASS recommendation. |
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381 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks for a point of clarification regarding the motion on the floor. |
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389 |
Chair Morrisette |
Committee stands at ease. |
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390 |
Chair Morrisette |
Explains that there was a motion to approve SB 623 as written which was overridden by a motion to table. Says that they must vote on the motion to table first. States that he would like to approve the motion to table so they can try to come up with a workable compromise. States that they will vote on the motion to table. |
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410 |
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VOTE: 4-1-0 AYE: 4 - Sen. Kruse, Sen. Metsger, Sen. C. Starr, Sen. Morrisette NAY: 1 - Sen. Monnes Anderson |
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Chair Morrisette |
The motion to table Carries. |
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422 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes work session on SB 623 and opens public hearing on SB 419 (EXHIBIT K). |
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SB 419 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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TAPE 26, B |
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005 |
George Scheler |
Oregon Association of the Deaf. Testifies in support of SB 419. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT L). |
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035 |
Eric Frederick |
Oregon Speech Language and Hearing Association. Testifies in support of SB 419. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT M). |
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057 |
Andrew Evans |
Self Help for Hard of Hearing People, Oregon (SHHH-OR). Testifies in support of SB 419. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT N). |
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076 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB419 and opens public hearing on SB 553. |
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SB 553 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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080 |
George Scheler |
Oregon Association of the Deaf. Testifies in support of SB 553. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT O). |
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101 |
Fred Peters |
Consumer Representative, Hearing Aid Licensure Council. Testifies in support of SB 553. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT P). |
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104 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Asks if Scheler supports SB 553 with the -1 amendments. |
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106 |
Scheler |
Asks about the amendments. |
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111 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of the -1 amendments for SB 553. |
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116 |
Scheler |
Supports the -1 amendments. |
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120 |
Peters |
States that he would support the -1 amendments. Continues testimony on SB 553. |
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150 |
Andrew Evans |
Self Help for Hard of Hearing People, Oregon (SHHH-OR). Testifies in support of SB 553. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT Q). |
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168 |
Scott Austin |
Oregon Hearing Society. Testifies on SB 553. |
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197 |
John Brenneman |
Oregon Hearing Society. Testifies on SB 553. |
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200 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks what motivates people to continue fighting for this bill. |
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206 |
Austin |
Responds. |
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220 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 553 and announces that there will not be a work session on SB 553 today. |
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240 |
Chair Morrisette |
Announces that they will carry SB 623 over until the Thursday, March 3rd, 2005 meeting as long as they have the amendment by then. |
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251 |
Chair Morrisette |
Re-opens public hearing on SB 553. |
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SB 553 - PUBLIC HEARING |
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252 |
John Brenneman |
Oregon Hearing Society. Testifies on SB 553. Says that he has talked to everyone on the committee to express that they do not want to lose a member. |
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260 |
Chair Morrisette |
Announces that there will be a work session on SB 418, SB 419, SB 553, and SB 623 on Thursday, March 3rd, 2005. |
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283 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing on SB 553 and adjourns the meeting at 4:34 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 623, printed bill, staff, 1 p
B. SB 623, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
C. SB 623, PowerPoint handout, Missy Dolin, 2 pp
D. SB 553, printed bill, staff, 1 p
E. SB 553, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
F. SB 418, printed bill, staff, 2 pp
G. SB 418, written testimony, George Scheler, 3 pp
H. SB 418, written testimony, Fred Peters, 1 p
I. SB 418, written testimony, Eric Frederick, 1 p
J. SB 418, written testimony, Andrew Evans, 1 p
K. SB 419, printed bill, staff, 1 p
L. SB 419, written testimony, George Scheler, 3 pp
M. SB 419, written testimony, Eric Frederick, 1 p
N. SB 419, written testimony, Andrew Evans, 1 p
O. SB 553, written testimony, George Scheler, 3 pp
P. SB 553, written testimony, Fred Peters, 1 p
Q. SB 553, written testimony, Andrew Evans, 1 p