SENATE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES
March 22, 2005 Hearing Room B
3:00 P.M. Tapes 39 - 40
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Bill Morrisette, Chair
Sen. Jeff Kruse, Vice-Chair
Sen. Laurie Monnes Anderson
Sen. Charles Starr
MEMBER EXCUSED: Sen. Rick Metsger
STAFF PRESENT: Rick Berkobien, Committee Administrator
Dawn Tuso, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 598 - Public Hearing
SB 666 – Public Hearing
SB 403 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 609 – Public Hearing
SB 885 - Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 39, A |
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005 |
Chair Morrisette |
Calls meeting to order at 3:09 p.m. and opens a public hearing on SB 598. |
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SB 598 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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006 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 598. Mentions the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
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025 |
Sen. Ben Westlund |
Represents Senate District 27. Testifies in support of SB 598. |
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041 |
Jim Gardner |
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA). Testifies in support of SB 598. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT B). |
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065 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if he will work with the Oregon prescription bulk purchasing program to fill the gaps between the two programs to make sure that everyone in Oregon is covered. |
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068 |
Gardner |
Responds. |
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080 |
Sen. Westlund |
Talks about the logistics of distribution. |
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091 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Discusses issue with SB 598. |
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107 |
Gardner |
Responds to Sen. Monnes Anderson’s concern regarding funding. |
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126 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Says, “it is very difficult for me to want to support something to make your business better because I think your programs are fantastic.” Says that she can see the collaboration as long as it doesn’t cost any money. |
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135 |
Sen. Westlund |
Responds to Sen. Monnes Anderson’s comment. |
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155 |
Sen. Kruse |
Wonders where the profit would be. Says they are reduced priced programs, some of which are free. |
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180 |
Scott Gallant |
Oregon Medical Association. Testifies in support of SB 598. |
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218 |
Tom Holt |
Oregon State Pharmacy Association. Testifies in support of SB 598. |
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244 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if someone tried to coordinate money and if pharmaceutical companies were approached. |
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248 |
Holt |
Explains. |
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260 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks what role pharmacists would play. |
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263 |
Holt |
Replies. |
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269 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks what role the pharmacists will play in promoting the program. |
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270 |
Holt |
Explains. |
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275 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if Holt would recommend volunteering the time of pharmacists. |
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280 |
Holt |
Responds. |
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295 |
Sen. Alan Bates |
Represents Senate District 3. Testifies in support of SB 598. |
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327 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks about the -1 amendments. |
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332 |
Sen. Bates |
Responds. |
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348 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 598 and opens public hearing on SB 666. |
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SB 666 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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352 |
Sen. Alan Bates |
Represents Senate District 3. Testifies in support of SB 666. Mentions amendments that are being drafted currently. |
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408 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks for clarification regarding the agreement between the physician and pharmacist. |
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410 |
Sen. Bates |
Explains. |
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TAPE 40, A |
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001 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Talks about instance where medication was changed without the notification of the client. Asks if the pharmacist is liable for any side effects or adverse reactions caused by the substituted medication. |
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011 |
Sen. Bates |
Says that the amendments address those concerns. |
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038 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 666 and opens public hearing on SB 598. |
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SB 598 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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044 |
Chris Otis |
Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. Testifies in support of SB 598. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT C). |
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110 |
Angela Kimball |
Association of Oregon Community Mental Health Programs. Testifies in support of SB 598. |
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125 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 598 and opens public hearing on SB 666. |
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SB 666 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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130 |
Tom Holt |
Oregon State Pharmacy Association. Testifies in support of SB 666. |
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173 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks about the issue of liability. |
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183 |
Holt |
Responds. |
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190 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks if there is a liability issue currently. |
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193 |
Holt |
Explains. |
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203 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks follow-up question. |
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210 |
Holt |
Responds. |
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219 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if it will be focused on certain classes of drugs. |
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226 |
Holt |
Explains that the amendments will include categories where therapeutic interchanges would not be allowed. |
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231 |
Scott Gallant |
Oregon Medical Association. Testifies on SB 666. Talks about amendments to SB 666. |
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315 |
Jim Gardner |
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA). Testifies in opposition to SB 666. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT D). |
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TAPE 39, B |
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001 |
Gardner |
Continues testimony in opposition to SB 666. |
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010 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 666 and opens public hearing on SB 403. |
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SB 403 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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015 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 403. Talks about the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT E) and the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT F). |
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030 |
Sen. Ted Ferrioli |
Represents Senate District 30. Testifies in support of SB 403. |
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044 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Sen. Ferrioli how he feels about the amendments. |
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048 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Replies that he does not have any objection to including other practitioners. |
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051 |
Chair Morrisette |
Mentions another bill that addresses a similar issue. |
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053 |
Sen. Ferrioli |
Responds. |
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062 |
Ed Patterson |
Oregon Rural Health Association. Testifies in support of SB 403. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT G). |
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115 |
Scott Gallant |
Oregon Medical Association. Testifies in support of SB 403. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT H). |
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174 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks Patterson question regarding the -2 amendments. |
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185 |
Patterson |
Replies that the language mentioned is fairly common. |
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197 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Karen Whitaker to testify on SB 403. |
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200 |
Karen Whitaker |
Director, State Office of Rural Health. Testifies in support of SB 403. |
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236 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if there has been a general study of the need. |
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242 |
Whitaker |
Replies that there has not been a comprehensive study done. |
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258 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if there are tax credits in existence currently. |
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260 |
Whitaker |
Replies yes. |
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261 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks what the tax credit is currently. |
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263 |
Whitaker |
Explains that the tax credit is $5,000. |
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267 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Clarifies that SB 403 would raise the tax credit to $10,000. |
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268 |
Whitaker |
Replies yes. |
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270 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if psychologists have ever been eligible for a tax credit in rural Oregon. |
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272 |
Whitaker |
Replies no. |
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283 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if pharmacists were mentioned. |
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284 |
Whitaker |
Replies no. |
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291 |
Damiana Merryweather |
Oregon Physiological Association. Testifies on SB 403. Supports the -2 amendments. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT I). |
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354 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks Merryweather if she has a map that shows how many psychologists are located in rural Oregon. |
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358 |
Merryweather |
Replies that she does not have the information available today but that she could provide the information to the committee. |
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376 |
Chair Morrisette |
Mentions Rep. Butler’s concern regarding SB 403. |
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379 |
Merryweather |
Responds. |
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394 |
Tom Holt |
Oregon State Pharmacy Association. Testifies on SB 403. Supports the -1 amendments. |
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TAPE 40, B |
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001 |
Holt |
Continues testimony on SB 403. |
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028 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing. Committee stands at ease. Calls committee back to order and opens a work session on SB 403. |
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SB 403 – WORK SESSION |
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034 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 403-1 amendments dated 3/8/05. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Sen. Metsger, Sen. C. Starr |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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036 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 403-2 amendments dated 3/11/05. |
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039 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Expresses concern regarding tax credits. Says she is comfortable voting for SB 403 because it has a subsequent referral to Revenue. |
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043 |
Chair Morrisette |
Expresses the importance of moving SB 403 on to Revenue because two rural Oregon legislators support SB 403. |
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045 |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Sen. Metsger, Sen. C. Starr |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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047 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves SB 403 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and BE REFERRED to the committee on Revenue. |
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VOTE: 3-0-2 EXCUSED: 2 - Sen. Metsger, Sen. C. Starr |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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058 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes work session and opens public hearing on SB 609. |
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SB 609 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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069 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Gives overview of SB 609. |
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077 |
Sen. Kruse |
Represents Senate District 1. Testifies on SB 609. |
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110 |
Gordon Fultz |
Association of Oregon Counties. Testifies on SB 609. Expresses concerns with SB 609. |
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132 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 609 and opens public hearing on SB 885. |
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SB 885 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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140 |
Roy Scheer |
Legislative Assistant, Sen. Ringo’s Office. Testifies in support of SB 885. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT J). |
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198 |
Monte Burk |
Department of Human Services. Testifies in opposition to SB 885. Submits written testimony (EXHIBIT K). |
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234 |
Chair Morrisette |
Comments on testimony. Talks about contacting Oregon’s congressional delegation to try to make adjustments in the federal law. Discusses another option to deal with the issue. |
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253 |
Scheer |
Offers to testify again after hearing back from Legislative Counsel. |
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256 |
Chair Morrisette |
Says we are still going to pursue it on the federal level. |
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263 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes public hearing on SB 885 and adjourns meeting at 4:55 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 598, - 1 amendments, staff, 1 p
B. SB 598, written testimony, Jim Gardner, 1 p
C. SB 598, written testimony, Chris Otis, 1 p
D. SB 666, written testimony, Jim Gardner, 1 p
E. SB 403, - 1 amendments, staff, 2 pp
F. SB 403, - 2 amendments, staff, 2 pp
G. SB 403, written testimony, Ed Patterson, 7 pp
H. SB 403, written testimony, Scott Gallant, 1 p
I. SB 403, written testimony, Damiana Merryweather, 2 pp
J. SB 885, written testimony, Roy Scheer, 2 pp
K. SB 885, written testimony, Monte Burk, 2 pp