SENATE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES
April 07, 2005 Hearing Room D
3:00 P.M. Tapes 57 - 60
MEMBERS PRESENT: Sen. Bill Morrisette, Chair
Sen. Jeff Kruse, Vice-Chair
Sen. Rick Metsger
Sen. Laurie Monnes Anderson
Sen. Charles Starr
STAFF PRESENT: Rick Berkobien, Committee Administrator
Brittany Kenison, Committee Assistant
MEASURES/ISSUES HEARD:
SB 598 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 811 – Public Hearing
SB 815 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 895 – Public Hearing
SB 973 – Public Hearing
SB 620 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 668 – Public Hearing
SB 1005 – Public Hearing and Work Session
SB 870 – Work Session
SB 609 – Public Hearing
These minutes are in compliance with Senate and House Rules. Only text enclosed in quotation marks reports a speaker’s exact words. For complete contents, please refer to the tapes.
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TAPE/# |
Speaker |
Comments |
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TAPE 57, A |
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003 |
Chair Morrisette |
Calls the meeting to order at 3:07 p.m. Opens a public hearing on SB 598. |
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SB 598 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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020 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Explains SB 598 and introduces the -4 amendments (EXHIBIT A). |
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035 |
Sen. Alan Bates |
Senate District 3. Testifies in support of SB 598 with the -4 amendments. |
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078 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks Sen. Bates to explain the bulk purchasing program. |
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080 |
Sen. Bates |
Responds. |
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090 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks about patients taking advantage of purchasing medications in bulk. |
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100 |
Sen. Bates |
Answers. |
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105 |
Sen. Morrisette |
Comments on the eligibility of the bulk purchasing program. Closes the public hearing and opens a work session SB 598. |
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SB 598 – WORK SESSION |
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115 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 598-4 amendments dated 4/6/05. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Metsger |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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120 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves SB 598 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation and the SUBSEQUENT REFERRAL to the committee on Ways and Means BE RESCINDED. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Metsger |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. BATES will lead discussion on the floor. |
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135 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the work session on SB 598 and opens a public hearing on SB 811. |
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SB 811 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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145 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Explains SB 811. |
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155 |
Jim Thompson |
Policy Advisor, Sen. Gary George, Senate District 12. Testifies in support of SB 811. |
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220 |
Joyce Padilla |
Foster Parent. Citizen, Polk County, Oregon. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 811 (EXHIBIT C). |
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290 |
Timothy Travis |
Oregon Judicial Department. Testifies in opposition to SB 811. |
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310 |
Kevin George |
Foster Care Program Manger, Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS). Testifies regarding SB 811. |
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340 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if there is a compliance issue. |
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342 |
George |
Responds. |
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350 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if the compliance issue could be addressed. |
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360 |
George |
Answers question. |
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370 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Asks if the federal law states that safety is paramount. |
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371 |
George |
Answers, yes. |
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372 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Refers to page two (2) of SB 811. Comments on the language regarding the safety of the children. |
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389 |
Chair Morrisette |
Refers to section four (4) of the bill regarding children’s safety. |
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396 |
George |
Recommends that the Legislative Counsel office clarify the intent of the sections. |
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403 |
Chair Morrisette |
Comments on permanence and safety. Asks for Sen. Gary George to testify. |
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415 |
George |
States his primary concern with SB 811. |
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430 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks George if there is an issue with the intent of the bill. |
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431 |
George |
Answers, no. |
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440 |
Sen. Gary George |
Senate District 12. Submits and presents articles on foster care in support of SB 811 (EXHIBIT C). |
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TAPE 58, A |
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020 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if the language of the bill will impact Oregon’s current law. |
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025 |
Sen. George |
Defers to George. |
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028 |
George |
Responds. |
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032 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks George to describe potential issues that could develop from the bill passage. |
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037 |
George |
Responds. |
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040 |
Chair Morrisette |
States that he does not want a conflict between state and federal laws. Asks if both parties will work together. |
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041 |
Sen. George |
Responds, yes. |
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045 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing on SB 811 and opens a public hearing on SB 815. |
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SB 815 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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050 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Explains SB 815 and introduces the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT D). |
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075 |
Jim Thompson |
Policy Advisor, Sen. Gary George, Senate District 12. Testifies in support of SB 815 with the -2 amendments. |
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125 |
Terry Fennell |
Vice President, Marion/Polk Foster Parent Association. Chair, Oregon Foster Parent Association. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 815 (EXHIBIT E). |
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165 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Fennell the children’s ages when they arrived at his home. |
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169 |
Fennell |
Responds. |
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170 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Fennell to clarify that they did not have background information on the children. |
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173 |
Fennell |
Responds. |
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182 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if the Department of Human Services (DHS) asks foster parents to take a child. |
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190 |
Fennell |
Responds, yes. |
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192 |
Chair Morrisette |
Discusses whether foster parents or DHS has the major responsibility of the child. Asks Fennell about the questions he asked DHS in relation to background information of a child before he takes them into foster care. |
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195 |
Fennell |
Responds. Discusses how he has to ask the “right” questions. |
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204 |
Chair Morrisette |
Verifies that DHS withholds information if the foster parent does not ask for the information. |
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205 |
Fennell |
Answers, yes. |
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208 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Fennell to verify that if he does not ask the appropriate questions, that DHS will not volunteer the information. |
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210 |
Fennell |
Answers, yes. Provides example. |
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225 |
Fennell |
Concludes testimony. |
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230 |
Don Darland |
President, Oregon Foster Parent Association. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 815 with the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT F). |
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276 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Darland to explain why the grievance procedure was eliminated. |
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279 |
Darland |
Explains that it was deleted by mistake. |
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280 |
Thompson |
States that the mistake will be fixed. |
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283 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Thompson what he did to accommodate DHS. |
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285 |
Thompson |
Answers question. |
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310 |
Joyce Padilla |
Foster parent. Citizen, Polk County, Oregon. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 815 (EXHIBIT G) and a brochure entitled “Oregon’s Juvenile Dependence Court: A Guide for Foster Parents” (EXHIBIT H). |
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415 |
Chair Morrisette |
Clarifies that Padilla is referring to page two (2), line nineteen (19) through twenty-one (21), number eleven (11) of the -2 amendments to SB 815. |
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417 |
Padilla |
Responds. |
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420 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if there is a section in the amendments that addresses foster care parents’ standing in court. |
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430 |
Padilla |
Answers question. |
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440 |
Chair Morrisette |
Verifies that foster parents would be included and it would give them standing in court. |
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443 |
Padilla |
Answers, yes. Continues testifying in support of SB 815 with the -2 amendments. |
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TAPE 57, B |
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020 |
Padilla |
Continues testifying in support of SB 815 with the -2 amendments. |
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063 |
Shelby Hudson |
Foster parent. Citizen, Salem, Oregon. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 815 (EXHIBIT I). |
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093 |
Gary Ledgerwood |
President, Marion Polk County Foster Parent Association. Submits and presents written testimony in support of SB 815 (EXHIBIT J). |
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125 |
Timothy Travis |
Court Improvement Manager, Oregon Judicial Department. Submits and presents a report entitled “The Oregon Judicial Department’s Juvenile Court Improvement Project,” with a neutral position to SB 815 (EXHIBIT K). |
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180 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks to explain the effect of the statutory language in the -2 amendments to SB 815. |
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182 |
Travis |
States that he has not seen the -2 amendments. Asks if he is referring to adding foster parents as a party to the case. |
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185 |
Chair Morrisette |
Answer, yes. |
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186 |
Travis |
Explains the statutory language relating to parties involved in a case in the -2 amendments to SB 815. |
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230 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if SB 815 would cause a conflict between state and federal law. |
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235 |
Travis |
Responds, no. Clarifies the conflict he was referring to. |
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237 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Travis to clarify his statement regarding federal law. |
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238 |
Travis |
Clarifies statement. |
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260 |
Kevin George |
Foster Program Manager, Oregon DHS. Testifies without a stated position to SB 815 with the -2 amendments. States concerns with the amendments. |
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290 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks George a question regarding confidentiality. |
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293 |
George |
Responds. Continues discussing concerns of the -2 amendments. |
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330 |
Sen. Gary George |
Senate District 12. Asks Travis to explain the court procedures for foster parents. |
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335 |
Travis |
Answers question. |
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340 |
Sen. George |
Testifies in support of SB 815 with the -2 amendments. |
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370 |
Chair Morrisette |
Ask Travis and George the effects of SB 815 and the -2 amendments. |
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400 |
George |
Speculates. States that he cannot say for sure. |
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415 |
Travis |
Adds speculation. |
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TAPE 58, B |
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010 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks question relating to the rights of foster parents after twelve (12) months. |
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012 |
Travis |
Answer question. |
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015 |
Chair Morrisette |
Clarifies that foster parents cannot be a legal intervener under current law during the first twelve (12) months. |
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016 |
Travis |
Answers, yes. |
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017 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks for the definition of a legal intervener. |
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020 |
Travis |
Responds. |
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022 |
Chair Morrisette |
Clarifies that SB 815 with the -2 amendments would allow a foster parent to be a legal intervener, immediately. |
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023 |
Travis |
Responds, yes. Adds that the right to be an intervener would be taken once the child has left the home. |
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024 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if there is a problem with foster care parents having the right to be a legal intervener, immediately. |
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025 |
Travis |
Answers. |
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028 |
Chair Morrisette |
Discusses the need to know the possibilities. Asks Travis to verify that he believes that the -2 amendments to SB 815 could cause legal issues. |
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032 |
Travis |
Responds. Discusses the rights of grandparents. |
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034 |
Sen. Kruse |
Asks if foster parents have the status of a legal intervener, if they have to participate. |
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044 |
George |
Answers question. |
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047 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if foster parents have access to confidential documents after the first year. |
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051 |
Travis |
Answers, yes. |
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052 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Travis to verify that some documentation should be kept confidential from foster care parents. |
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053 |
Travis |
Answers, yes. |
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055 |
Chair Morrisette |
Clarifies that the wait time for a foster care parent to be a legal intervener changed from eighteen (18) to twelve (12) months. |
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060 |
Travis |
Answers, yes. |
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062 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Sen. George if he feels all documentation should be revealed to foster care parents immediately. |
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063 |
Sen. George |
Responds. |
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071 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks about foster parents quitting within one year |
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075 |
Travis |
Answers question. |
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089 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks question relating to the constitutional requirements of foster parents. |
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090 |
Travis |
Explains. |
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094 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks if the status of a legal intervener can be granted on a per case basis. |
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098 |
Travis |
States that the Judge would make that decision. Provides speculation. |
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104 |
Sen. Kruse |
Comments on the intent of the -2 amendments to SB 815. |
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123 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Comments on having the best interest of the child, and not hindering the current adoption process. |
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137 |
Sen. C. Starr |
Remarks that there are issues still to be resolved, but that a work session should be held to move the bill. |
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140 |
George |
Notes that the grievance process was taken out of the bill by mistake. |
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145 |
Sen. George |
Comments that the grievance process is important and should be added to the bill. |
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146 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SB 815. |
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SB 815 – WORK SESSION |
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150 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 815-2 amendments dated 4/6/05. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 |
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155 |
Sen. Metsger |
States why he will be voting no. |
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157 |
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VOTE: 4-1-0 AYE: 4 - Kruse, Monnes Anderson, Starr C., Morrisette NAY: 1 - Metsger |
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Chair Morrisette |
The motion CARRIES. |
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170 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves SB 815 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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172 |
Chair Morrisette |
Discusses his concerns of the bill, but states that he supports the intent. |
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210 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Asks if litigation is going to be an issue. |
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215 |
Mickey Logan |
Senior Assistant Attorney General, Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS). Discusses the issue of litigation during juvenile hearings. |
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255 |
Timothy Travis |
Court Improvement Manager, Oregon Judicial Department. Also discusses the issue of litigation during juvenile hearings. |
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285 |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - Metsger |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. GEORGE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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300 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the work session on SB 815 and opens a public hearing SB 895. |
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SB 895 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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320 |
Sen. Bruce Starr |
Senate District 15. Testifies in support of SB 895. Comments on possible amendments to SB 895. |
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420 |
Chair Morrisette |
Comments on the issues Sen. B. Starr discussed. |
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425 |
Michael Dogan |
District Attorney, Deschutes County, Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 895. |
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445 |
Sen. Kruse |
States that he will support SB 895 if Dogan will verify that the changes proposed by Sen. B. Starr were addressed. |
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448 |
Dogan |
States that he will verify the changes made. |
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450 |
Kamala Shugar |
Oregon District Attorneys Association (ODAA). Testifies in support of SB 895. |
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TAPE 59, A |
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005 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Shugar to discuss possible unintended consequences that would affect her department. |
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006 |
Shugar |
Answers question. |
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020 |
Sen. Kruse |
Discusses the issue of allegations of parents. |
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022 |
Shugar |
Comments on the intent of disclosure of allegations. |
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029 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Shugar for her opinion of the language of the amendment. |
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034 |
Shugar |
Responds. |
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040 |
Chair Morrisette |
States that a work session will not be held on SB 895. |
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042 |
Dogan |
States that he will work with all parties involved on a solution. |
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045 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing on SB 895. Stands the meeting at ease. |
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056 |
Chair Morrisette |
Calls the meeting back to order. Opens a public hearing on SB 973. |
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SB 973 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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060 |
Hans Bernard |
Legislative Assistant, Sen. Kate Brown, Senate District 21. Introduces the -1 amendments to SB 973 (EXHIBIT L). Comments that there are still issues to be addressed in the -1 amendments. |
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075 |
Robin Pope |
Private Attorney, Oregon. Testifies in opposition to SB 973. States that she is willing to work toward a solution. |
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090 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing on SB 973. Stands the committee at ease. |
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093 |
Chair Morrisette |
Calls the meeting back to order. Opens a public hearing on SB 620. |
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SB 620 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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094 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Explains SB 620 and introduces the -2 amendments (EXHIBIT M). |
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097 |
Jim Marquee |
Oregon Society of Anesthesiologists. Testifies in support of SB 620 with the -2 amendments. |
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110 |
Bruce Bishop |
Oregon Association of Hospitals and Health Systems. Testifies in support of SB 620 with the -2 amendments. |
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115 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SB 620. |
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SB 620 – WORK SESSION |
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125 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 620-2 amendments dated 4/6/05. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - C. Starr |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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127 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves SB 620 to the floor with a DO PASS AS AMENDED recommendation. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - C. Starr |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. SEN. KRUSE will lead discussion on the floor. |
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135 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the work session on SB 620 and opens a public hearing on SB 668. |
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SB 668 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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143 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Explains the bill and introduces the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT N). |
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150 |
Art Keil |
Oregon Association of Naturopathic Physicians. Testifies in opposition to SB 668. |
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190 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing on SB 668 and opens a public hearing on SB 1005. |
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SB 1005 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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195 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Explains SB 1005 and introduces the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT O). |
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200 |
Rep. Steve March |
House District 49. Submits and presents an informational packet in support of SB 1005 and the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT P). Submits and presents written testimony from constituent, Robert Pope, Citizen, Salem, Oregon, in support of SB 1005 (EXHIBIT Q). |
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240 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the public hearing and opens a work session on SB 1005. |
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SB 1005 – WORK SESSION |
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245 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 1005-1 amendments dated 3/29/05. |
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VOTE: 4-0-1 EXCUSED: 1 - C. Starr |
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Chair Morrisette |
Hearing no objection, declares the motion CARRIED. |
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255 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves SB 1005 AS AMENDED to the committee on WAYS AND MEANS without RECOMMENDATION to passage. |
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255 |
Sen. Kruse |
States why he will not support SB 1005. |
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260 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
States that she will vote aye as a courtesy to the committee on Ways and Means. |
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270 |
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VOTE: 3-1-1 AYE: 3 - Metsger, Monnes Anderson, Morrisette NAY: 1 - Kruse EXCUSED: 1 – Starr, C. |
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Chair Morrisette |
The motion CARRIES. |
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280 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the work session on SB 1005 and opens a work session on SB 870. |
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SB 870 – WORK SESSION |
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287 |
Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Explains SB 870 and introduces the -1 amendments (EXHIBIT R). |
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300 |
Sen. Kruse |
MOTION: Moves to ADOPT SB 870-1 amendments dated 3/11/05. |
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315 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Berkobien to explain the -1 amendments to SB 870. |
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316 |
Berkobien |
Explains the -1 amendments to SB 870. |
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325 |
Chair Morrisette |
Notes that Sen. Monnes Anderson is not in favor of the -1 amendments to SB 870, therefore a work session will not be held. Discusses the benefits of Oregon Project Independence (OPI). |
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350 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Notes that the OPI is included in the budget and is not necessary. |
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365 |
Chair Morrisette |
Closes the work session on SB 870 and opens a public hearing on SB 609. |
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SB 609 – PUBLIC HEARING |
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Rick Berkobien |
Committee Administrator. Submits the -1 amendments to SB 609 (EXHIBIT S). |
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400 |
Sen. Kruse |
Submits and reads a letter on behalf of Sen. Jackie Winters, Senate District 10, in support of SB 609 (EXHIBIT T). |
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TAPE 60, B |
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010 |
Elizabeth Ann Barkley |
Citizen, Oregon. Testifies in support of SB 609. |
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025 |
Una Swanson |
Program Manager, Child Protective Services, Oregon Department of Human Services (DHS). Testifies in opposition to SB 609. |
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030 |
Chair Morrisette |
Stands the committee at ease. |
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032 |
Chair Morrisette |
Calls the meeting back to order. Asks Swanson to continue her testimony. |
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035 |
Swanson |
Continues to testify in opposition to SB 609. |
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050 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks Swanson if she has a suggestion for SB 609. |
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053 |
Swanson |
Responds. |
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062 |
Sen. Monnes Anderson |
Provides recommendations to page three (3), line two (2) of the -1 amendments to SB 609. |
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075 |
Timothy Travis |
Court Improvement Manager, Oregon Judicial Department. Refers to page two (2), line ten (10) of the bill. Asks about the intent of the language. |
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080 |
Chair Morrisette |
Asks question regarding the section Travis referred to. |
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082 |
Travis |
Responds. Asks if with the same scenario, the custodial parent could give the potential defendant a copy of the assessment. |
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090 |
Chair Morrisette |
States that a work session will not be held on SB 609 today. |
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097 |
Berkley |
Asks if the bill will be brought back for another hearing. |
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100 |
Chair Morrisette |
Responds. Closes the public hearing on SB 609 and adjourns the meeting at 5:50 p.m. |
EXHIBIT SUMMARY
A. SB 598, -4 amendments, staff, 2 pp
B. SB 811, written testimony, Joyce Padilla, 2 pp
C. SB 811, articles, Sen. Gary George, 1 p
D. SB 815, -2 amendments, staff, 4 pp
E. SB 815, written testimony, Terry Fennell, 1 p
F. SB 815, written testimony, Don Darland, 1 p
G. SB 815, written testimony, Joyce Padilla, 2 pp
H. SB 815, brochure, Joyce Padilla, 4 pp
I. SB 815, written testimony, Shelbee Hudson, 1 p
J. SB 815, written testimony, Gary Ledgerwood, 1 p
K. SB 815, report, Timothy Travis, 10 pp
L. SB 973, written testimony, staff, 1 p
M. SB 620, -2 amendments, staff, 1 p
N. SB 668, -1 amendments, staff, 1 p
O. SB 1005, -1 amendments, staff, 2 pp
P. SB 1005, informational packet, Rep. Steve March, 75 pp
Q. SB 1005, written testimony of Robert Pope, Rep. Steve March, 1 p
R. SB 870, - 1 amendments, staff, 4 pp
S. SB 609, -1 amendments, staff, 3 pp
T. SB 609, written testimony of Sen. Jackie Winters, 2 pp